Great Interview with Stewart!

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1/30/2008 10:15am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
My only comment and one I have made prior in regards to this type of discussion.

Most black Cuban immigrants, Jamaicans, Haitians and other black folks of Caribbean decent DO NOT like the term "African American" and do not like having that as their only ethnic choice on applications, surveys or other things requiring a label.

They do not consider themselves from Africa, but only from their respective homelands.

Now, if you want to say the cliché of their originally being from Africa, that would apply to EVERYONE as it is widely accepted that we all originated from the African or Middle Eastern region.

IMO, the term African American is actually disrespectful towards black folks from other countries and regions and unfairly labeled them without consideration.
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1/30/2008 10:48am
Kalish, you started this and you knew what you were starting.
You knew what was meant by the use of the term in relation to James Stewart
You stirred shit just to stir shit

You could've (and should've) left it alone.
You are as much to blame as P's expected responses
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1/30/2008 10:50am
Yeah. And at least P pays rent!
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i thought scott was a homeowner now

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1/30/2008 10:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="FLvet":166fcju4]Yeah. And at least P pays rent![/quote:166fcju4]

Rent???

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1/30/2008 10:55am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="brent26wood":1ly2emvn][quote="P":1ly2emvn][quote="brent26wood":1ly2emvn]Thats right P. They refer to themselves as American once they become citizens. Unlike the blacks in this country.[/quote:1ly2emvn]

The black experience in America is completely different than growing up in Africa. You have to look at history and the history behind the word to understand why it is used.


P[/quote:1ly2emvn]I don't care why it is used. Hell, I don't care about what blacks have been through. I care about paying my mortgage. I care about raising my kids to be productive members of society. I don't care who killed Kennedy anymore than I care who killed MLK. It is the past, let it die. Worry about making the future better instead of dwelling on the past.[/quote:1ly2emvn]

Dude, that is a very telling post. How do you expect the future to be any better if you don't know and understand your past???


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1/30/2008 10:56am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="P":29fpzji3][quote="FLvet":29fpzji3]Yeah. And at least P pays rent![/quote:29fpzji3]

Rent???

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Sorry didn't know if you rented or had a mortgage but I assumed you weren't living at home above the garage.
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1/30/2008 10:58am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="flarider":1bfgn3bd]IMO, the term African American is actually disrespectful towards black folks from other countries and regions and unfairly labeled them without consideration.[/quote:1bfgn3bd]

African-American isn't used within the black community to describe black people from other countries.


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1/30/2008 11:01am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="FLvet":21txsu3g][quote="P":21txsu3g][quote="FLvet":21txsu3g]Yeah. And at least P pays rent![/quote:21txsu3g]

Rent???

P[/quote:21txsu3g]
Sorry didn't know if you rented or had a mortgage but I assumed you weren't living at home above the garage.[/quote:21txsu3g]

And you would assume that because??? Oh yeah, that's right you don't answer questions so I probably shouldn't ask. :?


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1/30/2008 11:02am
It is a complete misnomer. You either are American or not. Make your choice or leave!
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1/30/2008 11:07am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="southeast racing":23an29sl]You don't know the difference between understanding the past and reveling in it. They are one and the
same to you and your ilk.[/quote:23an29sl]

Just what "kind" or ilk are you referring to?


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1/30/2008 11:11am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="Scott Kalisch":ye5fw0up][quote="P":ye5fw0up][quote="flarider":ye5fw0up]IMO, the term African American is actually disrespectful towards black folks from other countries and regions and unfairly labeled them without consideration.[/quote:ye5fw0up]

African-American isn't used within the black community to describe black people from other countries.


P[/quote:ye5fw0up]


Then how/why is it used?[/quote:ye5fw0up]

It is used in reference to black people that were born in America, but are of African decent. Do you guys not know anything about the 1970's and the Black Power movement?


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1/30/2008 11:13am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="Scott Kalisch":gekulyke]Just for the record, i work with several people from all over.

Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Haiti, Seirre Leone, Ghana, Niger, Egypt, Nigeria etc


And none of them refer to themselves as African American. When asked they say they are Ghanan, or Nigerian, or Cuban etc.[/quote:gekulyke]

That is because they aren't African-American.


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1/30/2008 11:14am
It was the sixties there mister know it all.
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It is used in reference to black people that were born in America, but are of African decent. Do you guys not know anything about the 1970's and the Black Power movement?

No I don't. The Black Panthers turned my membership application down.
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1/30/2008 11:23am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="TJ 755":2nspi05p]It was the sixties there mister know it all.[/quote:2nspi05p]

Started in the mid-60's and carried over into the 1970's. You probably saw more affects of it in the 70's than you did in the 60's.


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1/30/2008 11:25am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="FLvet":27afi71b]It is used in reference to black people that were born in America, but are of African decent. Do you guys not know anything about the 1970's and the Black Power movement?

No I don't. The Black Panthers turned my membership application down.[/quote:27afi71b]

Always and excuse............. :?


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1/30/2008 11:26am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="southeast racing":39m55363][quote="FLvet":39m55363]
No I don't. The Black Panthers turned my membership application down.[/quote:39m55363]

Racist bastards.[/quote:39m55363]

If that ain't the................ah nevermind. :?:roll:


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1/30/2008 11:31am
Aghh! acid flash backs!
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1/30/2008 11:48am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="southeast racing":3s541zum]Alright, wtf. Are any of those flower thingys moving? Tell me they are.[/quote:3s541zum]

No they are not moving, you must be insane! lol

I googled image "[b:3s541zum]Please make them stop[/b:3s541zum]", cuz I'm so freaken sick of these type of threads. :roll:

And that was one that came up--pretty cool huh? :D
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1/30/2008 12:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="southeast racing":3cbfje3m][quote="FLvet":3cbfje3m]
No I don't. The Black Panthers turned my membership application down.[/quote:3cbfje3m]

Racist bastards.[/quote:3cbfje3m]


lol
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1/30/2008 1:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="jtomasik":3e9x0uo7]Dumbgeon this thread...please.[/quote:3e9x0uo7]

Stop looking at it...seems like a pretty simple solution if it offends you!
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1/30/2008 1:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="P":2cljdsji]

That is because they aren't African-American.


P[/quote:2cljdsji]



neither are you, P.
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1/30/2008 1:01pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="P":3osl6ym4][quote="brent26wood":3osl6ym4]Thats right P. They refer to themselves as American once they become citizens. Unlike the blacks in this country.[/quote:3osl6ym4]

The black experience in America is completely different than growing up in Africa. You have to look at history and the history behind the word to understand why it is used.


P[/quote:3osl6ym4]

Not only does P know how it is growing up in America, but he also knows all about growing up in Africa!!! Classic!!!!
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[quote="huck":3th6jbte]

Not only does P know how it is growing up in America, but he also knows all about growing up in Africa!!! Classic!!!![/quote:3th6jbte]


Does that surprise you?
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I went to college with several guys who were black and from Africa (born/raised there and here on scholarship). These dudes were truly squared away, responsible kids with an incredible work ethic! Boy did they have opinions about most American born blacks their age.

Definitely a difference in culture and perspective.
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1/30/2008 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="Racer92":1re7bsr5]I went to college with several guys who were black and from Africa (born/raised there and here on scholarship). These dudes were truly squared away, responsible kids with an incredible work ethic! Boy did they have opinions about most American born blacks their age.

Definitely a difference in culture and perspective.[/quote:1re7bsr5]

they are just racists who don't understand black-american culture.
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1/30/2008 1:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:06pm
[quote="P":28gnqqwo][quote="flarider":28gnqqwo]IMO, the term African American is actually disrespectful towards black folks from other countries and regions and unfairly labeled them without consideration.[/quote:28gnqqwo]

African-American isn't used within the black community to describe black people from other countries.


P[/quote:28gnqqwo]
I know I said "one comment," sorry

The term may not be used within the "Black community" (another term I dislike, as if there's a "White community") but it is used to group or segregate all Blacks into one group on forms and applications as well as general speech.
Let's not forget that due to pressure and political correctness, TV/Media has been arm-twisted into using this term for all Blacks or risk being label "insensitive" or "racist," regardless of nationality of the Black person being referred to.

I think another issue, and one I have also mentioned in the past, is how the name or terminology used to describe or segregate Blacks has changed over the years from Negro, to Blacks, to Afro-American, to now African-American...and that's just a couple examples. One has to admit it creates some confusion and just adds to the issue.

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