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if james is allowed to race this weekend after being unconscious for nearly 3 minutes and pretty disoriented in the medical truck?
what does that say about our safety and concussion protocol regarding the safety of our riders and analysis of trauma sustained?
Any medical doctor in the world would oppose the opportunity to sustain a secondary trauma within 10 days but the medical staff in place in our sport would allow it?
what does that say about our safety and concussion protocol regarding the safety of our riders and analysis of trauma sustained?
Any medical doctor in the world would oppose the opportunity to sustain a secondary trauma within 10 days but the medical staff in place in our sport would allow it?
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The protocol has been set, and if it's there you have to use it right, it's what was agreed upon.
But you're right, no doctor is going to recommend you go put yourself in the same position less than a week later.
This sport is dangerous enough, let alone the added risk associated with this sort of thing.
Oh Wait, You're another one of the smart ass, worthless posters who bring nothing to the table but bad sarcasm and an attitude when we're raising the question about the concussion protocol, the very protocol half of the field mocks in interviews and in media when talking about it? for the benefit of riders safety and long term well being?
Ok.
You're getting all worked up over a hypothetical. Just wait to see if he races or not.
but we're talking about traumatic brain injuries here, with long term, life long effects that can be multiplied when sustained in rapid succession. ( within the healing period of soft tissue. ) you can take your bullshit elsewhere.
That said, I'd be surprised to see him lined up.
No legitimate doctor would allow him the opportunity to sustain a secondary trauma in this short of time span.
IF he is allowed to race that doesn't mean he is fit to, it means the testing protocol and the standards within it are off base for the safety of our sports riders. it means there is a flaw in the system.
and that brings up the question of the validity of our sports concussion testing... it needs to be better. to be more preventative and protective of riders who are out there augering themselves into the ground and lining up too soon for their own good and long term well being. whether it's pride, ego, team influence, sponsor, contractual obligations or whatever the influence may be. A protocol that is truly looking out for the riders best interest would mandate a cool down period allowing soft tissue damage to fully heal before allowing riders the opportunity to compete again and possibly sustain another impact.
this isn't some light, to be joked about stuff in the typical vital fashion. it's one of the few protocols we have going for us in our sport to benefit the safety of riders and I think it's time we truly look at it, and better it. EddieC's thread about the impact of residual concussions should have been enough to get most of you thinking.
Dunno how long he was out (and it doesn't seem to matter).
If he passes the "test" ,race, hell with dementia ,who cares if you are 60 and cant remember your name,everybody else will becauseyou won sx races. Life is short and careers shorter.
my experience with concussions, recovery and long term effects don't come from personal injuries, I work in the field.
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So what does it say about our sport? It says that if a rider suffers concussion they sit the appropriate concussion testing, if he passes that he can race....there is no rocket science here, its really that simple...which therefore says our sport takes concussion seriously.
If you think you have better concussion testing or medical advice (than what the AMA or Stewart's doctor says) to say he shouldnt race then maybe you should raise that with the AMA themselves....I highly doubt you do.
Find any doctor who thinks it's a smart idea for an individual's long term health to risk another trauma 7 days after the first one was sustained.
anywhere.
you'll have to be smoking your shit to dream that one up.
quad riders...
The athletes will always lie to get back on the field / track. They dont care about their long term health. And with a concussion, judgement is even further impaired.
And you will complain that their is a sanctioning body & doctors that should be protecting the athlete from themselves but what incentive is there? They make money off of having Bubba out there. BUBBA HIMSELF MAKES MONEY off of being out there. It literally benefits NOBODY to NOT have Bubba out there.
As I said, first and foremost, if the athletes dont care, what can you do? And this isnt just a SX/MX issue. The NFL lost a multi-billion dollar lawsuit to former players, established a new concussion protocol to protect from future litigation, and the PLAYERS hate it as do the coaches and teams. NOBODY is happy and we are lying to ourselves if we dont think they will skirt the protocol.
The sport of MX/SX is already dangerous as hell. You cant legislate the danger out of it. If Bubba's own parents/team wont hold him out of the race, you cant fault anyone else for not doing their job for them.
You are arguing about something that hasnt happened!!!!
What the OP is not getting is that if Bubba's own family or team wont step in to do what is best for his long term health, who cares if the concussion protocol isnt thorough enough.
You can only try so hard to protect people from themselves and 99% of one's efforts to do so are a waste of time. If we or anyone really cared about a riders health, we wouldnt let them race at all.
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