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Before 1970 it was illegal for a man & woman to live together if they were not married. Several decades have passed and let's look at what the facts reveal about "living together" outside of marriage.
In 1970 523,000 11%
1980 1,589,000
1990 2,856,000
2000 5,500,000 50%
With children:
1980 27%
1990 31%
2000 35%
50% were previously married
34% have never been married
16% had children while living together
There are five reasons that people commonly give for living together (shacking up). They are:
We want to find out if we are compatible with each other.
We do it because it makes good sense financially.
We don’t like to live alone (companionship).
Everyone else is doing it (rationalization).
We’re going to get married eventually. We’re in love.
Welcome to the real world;
1. far greater chance for divorce. 49% of all couples that marry end up getting divorced. 75% of couples that shack up end up getting divorced. (Alan Booth and David Johnson, Premarital Cohabitation and Marital Success, pp.261-270).
2. Greater odds for conflict. Living together outside of marriage increases the risk of emotional & physical abuse. Pennsylvania State University study. According to the U.S. Justice Department, women are 62 times more likely to be assaulted if living with a man unmarried than if they were married. The Family Violence Research Program at the University of New Hampshire found that the overall rate for “severe” violence is nearly 6-times as high for cohabitating couples than it is for married couples (Journal of Family violence vol. 41).
3. Less chance for happiness. It is hard for a person to be happy if his or her relationship is built on the need to prove himself or herself. In a shack up arrangement, commitment is day-to-day and month-to-month. “If you make me happy. If we are sexually compatible..” People who marry “til death do us part” have quite a different level of commitment, and therefore quite a different level of security, thus a quite a different level of freedom, and as a result a quite different level of happiness. A recent study of 6,023 couples reported significantly higher levels of happiness in married partners than did cohabitating partners. The married couples report less depression, less anxiety, and lower levels of psychological distress. And, according to the National Institute for Mental Health, women who ‘cohabit” with men have rates of depression three times higher than married women.
4. Greater risk of adultery. Sexual faithfulness is one of the many areas that is negatively impacted for couples who shack up. This pattern continues into their marriage if they wed. A Michigan study shows that couples who waited to cohabit until after they were married (the correct way) were more likely to rate those relationships stronger than those who lived together before marriage. If a woman lives with a man prior to marriage she is more likely to cheat on him once they are married. 3.3 times more likely. Contrary to popular belief, the best sex is experienced by married people (The National Sex Survey of 3500 people, and then 1,000 people).
5. Reason number 5. Less likelihood of saying “I do.” A common reason couples give for shacking up is that they are going to get married anyway. According to Brown & Booth, only about half of couples who cohabit eventually marry. Other studies have shown similar or worse findings. Living together before marriage actually decreases the chances that a couple will marry. The odds are greater that they will not. Shacking up is a high-risk – low reward option.
Summary:
If you and your girlfriend “cohabit” your chances for
Divorce are 50% greater
Aggresion (domestic violence) is 50% greater
Of not Marrying is 50% greater.
Would you parachute out of an airplane if you knew one of every two parachutes would fail? Probably not. Adding an unnecessary 50 percent failure rate would probably make the bravest of us say “No thanks.” The wise choice is to marry first and then live together.
Here is a testimony hot off the griddle. "I am in a cohabitation relationship going on a year now and I love the person dearly but living together is just not enough for me anymore. I want marriage, but in a way, I think that he is just comfortable the way things are now and I feel as if he could make me wait forever. I will never do this again should my boyfriend and I break up. I just feel like I am doing all that a wife does and more and I don't get anything out of it. The stats scare me considering that we are currently engaged and I am just frightened. I don't even want to marry him now. I just want to move out and start over." tears... (used with permission).
regards,
`oG
In 1970 523,000 11%
1980 1,589,000
1990 2,856,000
2000 5,500,000 50%
With children:
1980 27%
1990 31%
2000 35%
50% were previously married
34% have never been married
16% had children while living together
There are five reasons that people commonly give for living together (shacking up). They are:
We want to find out if we are compatible with each other.
We do it because it makes good sense financially.
We don’t like to live alone (companionship).
Everyone else is doing it (rationalization).
We’re going to get married eventually. We’re in love.
Welcome to the real world;
1. far greater chance for divorce. 49% of all couples that marry end up getting divorced. 75% of couples that shack up end up getting divorced. (Alan Booth and David Johnson, Premarital Cohabitation and Marital Success, pp.261-270).
2. Greater odds for conflict. Living together outside of marriage increases the risk of emotional & physical abuse. Pennsylvania State University study. According to the U.S. Justice Department, women are 62 times more likely to be assaulted if living with a man unmarried than if they were married. The Family Violence Research Program at the University of New Hampshire found that the overall rate for “severe” violence is nearly 6-times as high for cohabitating couples than it is for married couples (Journal of Family violence vol. 41).
3. Less chance for happiness. It is hard for a person to be happy if his or her relationship is built on the need to prove himself or herself. In a shack up arrangement, commitment is day-to-day and month-to-month. “If you make me happy. If we are sexually compatible..” People who marry “til death do us part” have quite a different level of commitment, and therefore quite a different level of security, thus a quite a different level of freedom, and as a result a quite different level of happiness. A recent study of 6,023 couples reported significantly higher levels of happiness in married partners than did cohabitating partners. The married couples report less depression, less anxiety, and lower levels of psychological distress. And, according to the National Institute for Mental Health, women who ‘cohabit” with men have rates of depression three times higher than married women.
4. Greater risk of adultery. Sexual faithfulness is one of the many areas that is negatively impacted for couples who shack up. This pattern continues into their marriage if they wed. A Michigan study shows that couples who waited to cohabit until after they were married (the correct way) were more likely to rate those relationships stronger than those who lived together before marriage. If a woman lives with a man prior to marriage she is more likely to cheat on him once they are married. 3.3 times more likely. Contrary to popular belief, the best sex is experienced by married people (The National Sex Survey of 3500 people, and then 1,000 people).
5. Reason number 5. Less likelihood of saying “I do.” A common reason couples give for shacking up is that they are going to get married anyway. According to Brown & Booth, only about half of couples who cohabit eventually marry. Other studies have shown similar or worse findings. Living together before marriage actually decreases the chances that a couple will marry. The odds are greater that they will not. Shacking up is a high-risk – low reward option.
Summary:
If you and your girlfriend “cohabit” your chances for
Divorce are 50% greater
Aggresion (domestic violence) is 50% greater
Of not Marrying is 50% greater.
Would you parachute out of an airplane if you knew one of every two parachutes would fail? Probably not. Adding an unnecessary 50 percent failure rate would probably make the bravest of us say “No thanks.” The wise choice is to marry first and then live together.
Here is a testimony hot off the griddle. "I am in a cohabitation relationship going on a year now and I love the person dearly but living together is just not enough for me anymore. I want marriage, but in a way, I think that he is just comfortable the way things are now and I feel as if he could make me wait forever. I will never do this again should my boyfriend and I break up. I just feel like I am doing all that a wife does and more and I don't get anything out of it. The stats scare me considering that we are currently engaged and I am just frightened. I don't even want to marry him now. I just want to move out and start over." tears... (used with permission).
regards,
`oG
Those are just a couple of thoughts to help you continue to develop your theme, Ger.
Thanks, but the theme is very well developed currently, and it isn't real pretty.
Counseling for premarital couples continues to be an asset in preparing for marriage, in some cases they simply realize that they aren't for each other.
0G
If the above stats don't impel you with the fundamental difference already, then perhaps nothing I can say to you will be useful. The girl in your illustration has degraded herself emotionally, sexually and spiritually, when all she was looking for was true love and comittment. Beware of people who want you for what they can get out of you. They will take what they want and move on, taking an irretrievable part of you with them.
Real marriage is about giving, not taking.
regards
oG
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Thanks,
oG
Do they mean that shacking up is worse, or that people have become less committed so they choose not to get married?
Do they mean that people that choose not to get married have all of the above characteristics and thus, rightly so, choose not to get married?
Commitment is in the heart of the person. It is either their character or it's not. Choosing to get married does not make one committed....of course, in many cases, folks might should be committed for choosing to get married.
How's the weather in Weatherford?
The solution is obvious - if a couple wishes to create a family and share property and rights but don't want to go to a church and invite God into the relationship, they go to the state and get a civil union agreement. If they wish to have God's sanction, they go to a church and get married. That's the way it should be.
Now, now boys.
regards,
oG
I disagree, or atleast, I believe an equivalent argument can made that the people are suffering from conflict and depression and it cascades into their relationships.
I know you want to believe that it is the sin that is the cause and the depression or other issue is the consequence, but, none of your statistics make that case. It might be true, but I believe the cause and effect could be equally argued as the opposite of what you say.
Wanna post up that unbiased source?
Pit Row
"Before 1970 it was illegal for a man & woman to live together if they were not married."
Excuse me?
But, I'm sure the layman's mind finds it informative.
So, don't live together and don't fuck, before marriage
lol
For the question out there "what's the difference between living together and being married", one word comes to mind.
Commitment
With out that, you have nothing. Some might argue you can have commitment without making it legal, I just happen to disagree.
They are everywhere, living in our neighborhoods, teaching our kids in school. Who would have ever thought there were so many.
Dam Shackers are tearing this country apart.
It's Christmas, why not take the rest of the year off from judging others. You've earned the break.
thanks,
Dean
Where was it illegal, all 50 states? Or was this a Federal law I didn't know about.
This must be OlGer's source
Post a reply to: Since the topic came up, let's look at it.