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In fact we need to shut down all travel from France and Belgium altogether.
We need to keep those bastards out!
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Hell, even France just confirmed that they will honor their commitment to take in an additional 30,000 Syrian refugees. To me, that shows strength and sends a message to ISIS that they will not change what they stand for. In comparison we are only talking of taking 10,000 over several years. Is this a case of France showing more bravery than the US? I'm only half serious, but we should take note of their resolve and courage.
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I did hear for the first time this morning that the vetting process take up to 18 months. However, the Homeland Security director has informed Obama that they (nor the FBI or the NCTC) have the infrastructure in place to properly vet the refugees. Sorry, I'll defer to the opinion of those agencies. The theme of my reply to tvo314 was that this was not the time to forgo common sense in the name of political correctness. It's time to be prudent. Can you imagine what would happen in this country if just two of those refugees end up being extremists who organize a similar attack in the states? If you think there's bigotry and fear now?
Here's a copy of the letter I referenced:
https://homeland.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Chairman_McCaul_S…
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The French have been struck twice this year by Islamic extremists with a third attack being thwarted. In regards to taking in 30,000 Syrians, lets just say I question the logic behind that decision.
I agree that if the experts you mentioned fear that our process isn't adequate, (it doesn't surprise me at all if it isn't) then we should see what we can do to make it much better. I am also sure that it can never be completely secure. But most threats come from immigrants or individuals born and raised here. How can we better address them? Considering how hard it is to make it through the refugee process, I don't see terrorist using this approach as their first choice, it's not efficient. Of course ISIS loves to play on our fears and will say that they plan to use the system to smuggle people in, and they may try, but I don't think that it is our biggest vulnerability.
Also,I think that if we do cut off all refugees from Syria, then every disillusioned youth will have one more reason to believe his radicalized mullah's violent rhetoric. But if a kid who's grown up surrounded by fighting and poverty sees that his neighbor and others from his community were taken into the US and now are safe and have a future, he will probably be far less likely to believe the Mullah who claims that America is the "Great Satan". I do believe that our goodwill can go a long way in protecting us, along with taking substantial steps to always improve our security. I have a friend who was a political refugee from Uzbekistan. He arrived with hardly any English, got a job as a dishwasher and worked his way into university and then law school and is now a Lawyer. No one believes in the American dream more than him. It may be anecdotal, but I know he's not the only one.
The situation in France is in many ways much more difficult than what we have here in the US. I admire their resolve in sticking to their values, but also acknowledge the very real risk they are taking in doing so. But similar to the US most of their problems are with those who are already there, not so much refugees fleeing the nightmare of Syria. ISIS and other groups, I'm sure will try to exploit the wave of refugees, and I hope that France is capable of protecting themselves. It will be very difficult, but I doubt Hollande would make that decision without carefully considering the safety of his people.
"I have a friend who was a political refugee from Uzbekistan. He arrived with hardly any English, got a job as a dishwasher and worked his way into university and then law school and is now a Lawyer. No one believes in the American dream more than him. It may be anecdotal, but I know he's not the only one."
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Several people on this board claim to be Christians but I see very little evidence of Christian values/compassion in most of their posts. The most thoughtful person so far in this thread seems to be TVO. Is it only a coincidence that he has lived abroad? If travel broadens the mind and opens eyes, some of you appear to have never left your State let alone visited a foreign country.
The US has a lot more going on besides 10,000 refugees. As the country that has taken in more rugees, more immigrants, provided more financial aid, humanitarian aid, and charity around the world than any other country or three in the world. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that we now welcome every year and provide unthinkable tax payer funder services for. Add in the economic damage caused by the federal Goveronment that Dtat720 mentioned and yes, this country is being overwhelmed. And anyone that is paying attention understands this.
To date Great Britain has taken in 200 syrian refugees. The US has taken 2000. Only about 50 of those 2000 were Christians .
10,000 refugees is not what the admin wants. He is on record stating we need to bring in 100,000 a year for the next "few" years. His pr team had to delete several tweets in reference to increased numbers of refugees, the main one being about 100,000 at the start of next year.
The state dept was before congress last week and was forced give intel on refugee and genocide data the state dept is using to determine financial help and who gets help first. The state department stated very clearly they will not be giving christians or kurds genocide status, only muslims and yazidis. Why yazidis when they are not muslims? They are of Iranian origins. Yazidis are offshoots of zoraistrans who are of iranian decent. Now look at his closest advisors, iranian decent. With the genocide label, we are obligated to spend our resources rebuilding their communities, governments. They are refusing kurds and christians, helping Iran and the rest of the muslims.
Does anyone understand what this admin is doing? There is a reason there are behavioral psychologists in his inner circle more than intel advisors.
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