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injured 9 before taking his own life
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Domestic dispute? Cheating wife? Details are few at the moment.
AHRMA361 7/23/2015 8:46pm
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Domestic dispute? Cheating wife? Details are few at the moment.
Didn't seem like it took too long to name the guy as a white male,. +50 Y/O. APB on Vital's own hillbilly? Just kidding!

Thoughts and prayers to all the victims. If it was a domestic, cheater sitch etc., ...you would hope a 58 Y/O person would be able to find a better way to deal with his issue than shooting and killing random folks. So sad.

No need to wait for the gun control faction to hop on all this.
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If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually 2-3 times a month). I am typically stocked with a double stack 9mm and two extra magazines. She just doesn't get why I feel the need to arm myself for a safe place like a movie theater....
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yz763 wrote:
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually...
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually 2-3 times a month). I am typically stocked with a double stack 9mm and two extra magazines. She just doesn't get why I feel the need to arm myself for a safe place like a movie theater....
Of the many thousand gun related deaths annually in the U.S. how many are in cinemas? Maybe time to re-assess your dress code?

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tcannon521 7/24/2015 7:26am
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yz763 wrote:
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually...
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually 2-3 times a month). I am typically stocked with a double stack 9mm and two extra magazines. She just doesn't get why I feel the need to arm myself for a safe place like a movie theater....
How long does it take to fire 13 rounds? My best guess is 10 seconds tops, that said what are you going to do with all that ammo when a shooter has already fired his/her rounds and killed themselves before you even know what is going on much less have time to safely draw your weapon and return fire.


My guess is in a dark theatre the noise of the weapon going off without ear protection on would have you so disoriented and startled you would be more of a danger returning fire than just ducking and hiding.
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yz763 wrote:
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually...
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually 2-3 times a month). I am typically stocked with a double stack 9mm and two extra magazines. She just doesn't get why I feel the need to arm myself for a safe place like a movie theater....
Are you allowed to carry in the theater there?
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Am I the only one who is just as concerned with the hero's as he is the weirdos?

"God bless you, but you’ve got to go. That was the sentiment Thursday afternoon at a U.S. Army recruiting center in Lancaster, Ohio, after an armed civilian standing guard outside of the center accidentally fired a round from his AR-15."

As tragic as the shooting at the recruitment center is, having Joe Citizen show up with his AR is not the solution. Not at the recruitment centers, and DEFINITELY not at schools.

This shit just blows me away.
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Sandberm 7/24/2015 8:38am
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Who the hell becomes agitated enough to shoot people at a Judd Apatow movie?

I once thought about slitting my wrists at a Woody Allen movie...but never Apatow.
scott_nz 7/24/2015 11:13am
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yz763 wrote:
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually...
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually 2-3 times a month). I am typically stocked with a double stack 9mm and two extra magazines. She just doesn't get why I feel the need to arm myself for a safe place like a movie theater....
tcannon521 wrote:
How long does it take to fire 13 rounds? My best guess is 10 seconds tops, that said what are you going to do with all...
How long does it take to fire 13 rounds? My best guess is 10 seconds tops, that said what are you going to do with all that ammo when a shooter has already fired his/her rounds and killed themselves before you even know what is going on much less have time to safely draw your weapon and return fire.


My guess is in a dark theatre the noise of the weapon going off without ear protection on would have you so disoriented and startled you would be more of a danger returning fire than just ducking and hiding.
x 2, in a dark movie theatre, startled, you would more likely hit an innocent victim rather than the shooter,

but why are these attacks seem to be coming though even more now, from all different parts of society, is it meds, why are so many people getting to this point, where they take a whole lot of random people with them,
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http://www.katc.com/story/29624774/shooter-russell-houser-has-presence-…

The man identified as killing two people and wounding nine more in last night's shooting is John Russell Houser, 59, of Alabama.

Houser should not have been able to legally own a gun, because of his history with mental illness, Sheriff Heath Taylor said during a 2 p.m. press conference.

A man identified as John Russell Houser on Twitter tweeted only twice. He wrote, "If you don't think the internet is censored, try reading a newspaper from a country that hates liberals the way I do," in June 2013.

A little earlier, he wrote, "The Westboro Baptist Church may be the last real church in America members not brainwashed."


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PalerBlue wrote:
Of the many thousand gun related deaths annually in the U.S. how many are in cinemas? Maybe time to re-assess your dress code?
Good question. My point was...it is getting to a point that no one is ever safe no matter what environment you're in.
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yz763 7/24/2015 2:25pm
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Are you allowed to carry in the theater there?
Yes unless posted by property owner. You can't carry at a organized professional event.
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yz763 wrote:
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually...
If there is one thing I do that usually creates a little discussion between my girlfriend and I is when we go to the movies (usually 2-3 times a month). I am typically stocked with a double stack 9mm and two extra magazines. She just doesn't get why I feel the need to arm myself for a safe place like a movie theater....
tcannon521 wrote:
How long does it take to fire 13 rounds? My best guess is 10 seconds tops, that said what are you going to do with all...
How long does it take to fire 13 rounds? My best guess is 10 seconds tops, that said what are you going to do with all that ammo when a shooter has already fired his/her rounds and killed themselves before you even know what is going on much less have time to safely draw your weapon and return fire.


My guess is in a dark theatre the noise of the weapon going off without ear protection on would have you so disoriented and startled you would be more of a danger returning fire than just ducking and hiding.
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x 2, in a dark movie theatre, startled, you would more likely hit an innocent victim rather than the shooter, but why are these attacks seem...
x 2, in a dark movie theatre, startled, you would more likely hit an innocent victim rather than the shooter,

but why are these attacks seem to be coming though even more now, from all different parts of society, is it meds, why are so many people getting to this point, where they take a whole lot of random people with them,
I'm not engaging anyone at all. I'm protecting my loved ones and seeking cover. Shooting 101...you should always be aware of your surroundings between and beyond your target before firing. If I have a clear shot...I'm taking it. Situational awareness and assessment of the situation would take 1-3 seconds with covering taking 1-3 seconds ideally. Realistically, every situation is different and you never know until you are faced with that decision. I at least want a fighting chance to protect my family and my loved ones.
tcannon521 7/25/2015 9:19am
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I'm not engaging anyone at all. I'm protecting my loved ones and seeking cover. Shooting 101...you should always be aware of your surroundings between and beyond...
I'm not engaging anyone at all. I'm protecting my loved ones and seeking cover. Shooting 101...you should always be aware of your surroundings between and beyond your target before firing. If I have a clear shot...I'm taking it. Situational awareness and assessment of the situation would take 1-3 seconds with covering taking 1-3 seconds ideally. Realistically, every situation is different and you never know until you are faced with that decision. I at least want a fighting chance to protect my family and my loved ones.
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if someone behind you fired at the shooter and shot one of your family members who was safe from the gunman?
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yz763 7/25/2015 11:52am
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tcannon521 wrote:
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if...
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if someone behind you fired at the shooter and shot one of your family members who was safe from the gunman?
Is that a serious question?
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Sandberm wrote:
Who the hell becomes agitated enough to shoot people at a Judd Apatow movie? I once thought about slitting my wrists at a Woody Allen movie...but...
Who the hell becomes agitated enough to shoot people at a Judd Apatow movie?

I once thought about slitting my wrists at a Woody Allen movie...but never Apatow.
Dunno man, that Amy Schumer can drive some people nuts
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What agenda would that be?
tcannon521 7/26/2015 6:09am
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tcannon521 wrote:
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if...
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if someone behind you fired at the shooter and shot one of your family members who was safe from the gunman?
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Is that a serious question?
Of course it is. That's the risk with everyone carrying. Care to answer it?

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str8shooter 7/26/2015 11:02am
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tcannon521 wrote:
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if...
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if someone behind you fired at the shooter and shot one of your family members who was safe from the gunman?
yz763 wrote:
Is that a serious question?
tcannon521 wrote:
Of course it is. That's the risk with everyone carrying. Care to answer it?
I'll try.......

1) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......No one in room has a gun ........result......everyone definitely gets shot! =...no chance at surviving at all.

2) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......Some other guy in room pulls out gun and starts firing back at gunman.=.... some chance if not a fair chance at surviving now
Andy_Greenney 7/26/2015 12:22pm
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I'll try....... 1) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......No one in room...
I'll try.......

1) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......No one in room has a gun ........result......everyone definitely gets shot! =...no chance at surviving at all.

2) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......Some other guy in room pulls out gun and starts firing back at gunman.=.... some chance if not a fair chance at surviving now
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, a few blushes and shocked faces, no one is injured.
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yz763 7/26/2015 12:27pm
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tcannon521 wrote:
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if...
Sounds like you're a responsible gun owner but does that mean everyone else is? I guess my question for you is would you be ok if someone behind you fired at the shooter and shot one of your family members who was safe from the gunman?
yz763 wrote:
Is that a serious question?
tcannon521 wrote:
Of course it is. That's the risk with everyone carrying. Care to answer it?
Of course I wouldn't be ok if someone shot my loved ones out of handling a firearm carelessly. I am having a hard time understanding the point behind your question?
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yz763 7/26/2015 12:28pm
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You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, a few blushes...
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, a few blushes and shocked faces, no one is injured.
In this case, he wouldn't be a shooter now would he? He would just be some guy with his dick in his hand.
Andy_Greenney 7/26/2015 12:33pm
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yz763 wrote:
In this case, he wouldn't be a shooter now would he? He would just be some guy with his dick in his hand.
Exactly.

Not my place to say what is right or wrong though. There are nutters in all societies, I feel safer stopping everyone having guns including the nutters, than assuming nutters will have guns and arming everyone accordingly.
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kongols 7/26/2015 1:25pm
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You have 2nd amendment and 300 million guns in civilian hands, live with it. It WILL NOT stop. Get used to it. Outrage after every shooting seems hypocritical.
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I'll try....... 1) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......No one in room...
I'll try.......

1) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......No one in room has a gun ........result......everyone definitely gets shot! =...no chance at surviving at all.

2) Shooter in theater (or any where) walks in and starts firing at random and is determined to kill everyone inside.......Some other guy in room pulls out gun and starts firing back at gunman.=.... some chance if not a fair chance at surviving now
Andy_Greenney wrote:
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, a few blushes...
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, a few blushes and shocked faces, no one is injured.
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun,

Scenario 3 doesnt exist in the real world. Anyone can get a gun......no matter whatever country you live in and no matter what gun restrictive laws you have that you "think" work.
Andy_Greenney 7/26/2015 2:11pm
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[b]You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, [/b] Scenario 3...
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun,

Scenario 3 doesnt exist in the real world. Anyone can get a gun......no matter whatever country you live in and no matter what gun restrictive laws you have that you "think" work.
And that is in essence where the pro and anti gun lobby differ in opinion, if you assume everyone that wants a gun can get a gun then it becomes a necessity.
In the UK its only the top end criminals that could get their hands on a gun not joe public who fancies a little shoot up, and thats the difference. The US I would imagine is a whole different ball game, but even so, if your argument is for every citizen to be armed for self defence, why not ban anything with more fire power than a revolver? Typically defence is against a single assailant.
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Barrett57 7/26/2015 2:36pm
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str8shooter wrote:
[b]You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, [/b] Scenario 3...
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun,

Scenario 3 doesnt exist in the real world. Anyone can get a gun......no matter whatever country you live in and no matter what gun restrictive laws you have that you "think" work.
We had mass shootings in 1987, 1996 and 2010.

We have never had anyone shoot up a movie theater, so that scenario does exist in the real world.

How many mass shootings has the US had in the same time?

Your welcome to your guns, it's your right after all and I wont say that you shouldn't have guns because I don't believe in telling other people what to do in their own country. Gun control will never work in the US anyway because of the amount of guns and the American mentality.

But OUR restrictive laws do work so don't imply that they don't.
str8shooter 7/26/2015 3:15pm
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[b]You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun, [/b] Scenario 3...
You forgot scenario 3, Shooter walks into a theatre with nothing but his dick in his hands because he can't get a gun,

Scenario 3 doesnt exist in the real world. Anyone can get a gun......no matter whatever country you live in and no matter what gun restrictive laws you have that you "think" work.
Barrett57 wrote:
We had mass shootings in 1987, 1996 and 2010. We have never had anyone shoot up a movie theater, so that scenario does exist in the...
We had mass shootings in 1987, 1996 and 2010.

We have never had anyone shoot up a movie theater, so that scenario does exist in the real world.

How many mass shootings has the US had in the same time?

Your welcome to your guns, it's your right after all and I wont say that you shouldn't have guns because I don't believe in telling other people what to do in their own country. Gun control will never work in the US anyway because of the amount of guns and the American mentality.

But OUR restrictive laws do work so don't imply that they don't.
I think most of "our" (US) problems begin with that we dont punish people swiftly or harshly enough that use guns in a violent way. Our muslim in chief and the libbs in this country make sure our prisons have revolving doors. Not to mention the war on our police. We cant even put the gun toting criminals away any more!!

I might be all for the strictest of gun regulations as long as lawful citizens could still buy whatever they want with NO restrictions placed against them. But we fear that as soon as the gun grabbers get an inch...they will take a mile!

If any of you have a solution as to how to solve this problem or what laws your country has in place that you believe stop this kind of thing from happening, Im sure many of us would love to hear it.!
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I think most of "our" (US) problems begin with that we dont punish people swiftly or harshly enough that use guns in a violent way. Our...
I think most of "our" (US) problems begin with that we dont punish people swiftly or harshly enough that use guns in a violent way. Our muslim in chief and the libbs in this country make sure our prisons have revolving doors. Not to mention the war on our police. We cant even put the gun toting criminals away any more!!

I might be all for the strictest of gun regulations as long as lawful citizens could still buy whatever they want with NO restrictions placed against them. But we fear that as soon as the gun grabbers get an inch...they will take a mile!

If any of you have a solution as to how to solve this problem or what laws your country has in place that you believe stop this kind of thing from happening, Im sure many of us would love to hear it.!
I'd love to tell you but when you use terms like "muslim in chief", "libbs" and "gun grabbers" I know that there's no point in trying to have a reasonable discussion.

I hear there's an opening for a radical christian conservative on "Rise and Shine" on WLTZ in Columbus, Ga. Maybe you should apply. You seem to have the right mindset for the job. You can really let your freak flag fly.

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