Go fund me for my 66 year old mother injured as a spectator at cahuilla creek motocross track

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Edited Date/Time 7/20/2015 2:57pm
Please take a moment to read this touching story and pass this on to the motocross community. Thank you.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10207518222818817&id=1386…
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7/16/2015 10:24pm
Page isn't available, but I'm interested to hear the story because I go to that track.
rettaross
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7/17/2015 5:12am
Page isn't available, but I'm interested to hear the story because I go to that track.
Hi there. I will post the go fund me info again it has the whole story on it! Thanks for ur reply and letting me know.
'Mom's road to recovery fund ' http://dm2.gofund.me/zhtfss
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I found this on Google... http://patch.com/california/banning-beaumont/three-injured-motorcycle-crash-motocross-0 It's dated July 13, so it could be related to this guy. If she was injured at the track through...
I found this on Google...

http://patch.com/california/banning-beaumont/three-injured-motorcycle-c…

It's dated July 13, so it could be related to this guy. If she was injured at the track through no fault of her own (article says rider hit bleachers), shouldn't the track's insurance cover hospital costs?
Yes that article is related. The track owners have been wonderful. Not worried on insurance stuff more so wanting to the get the word out and have people take a look at the go fund me page. Thank you so much.
Mom's road to recovery fund ' http://dm2.gofund.me/zhtfss

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7/17/2015 5:44am
Sully wrote:
I found this on Google... http://patch.com/california/banning-beaumont/three-injured-motorcycle-crash-motocross-0 It's dated July 13, so it could be related to this guy. If she was injured at the track through...
I found this on Google...

http://patch.com/california/banning-beaumont/three-injured-motorcycle-c…

It's dated July 13, so it could be related to this guy. If she was injured at the track through no fault of her own (article says rider hit bleachers), shouldn't the track's insurance cover hospital costs?
rettaross wrote:
Yes that article is related. The track owners have been wonderful. Not worried on insurance stuff more so wanting to the get the word out and...
Yes that article is related. The track owners have been wonderful. Not worried on insurance stuff more so wanting to the get the word out and have people take a look at the go fund me page. Thank you so much.
Mom's road to recovery fund ' http://dm2.gofund.me/zhtfss
You're not worried about the insurance stuff and just want to get the word out but you're asking for $28,000? What part am I missing?
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7/17/2015 6:07am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 6:41am
I'm guessing the hospital costs were covered and they are looking for additional money?

Yea I read it, It's additional money for rehab. Bummer deal. All the best to your grandma man!
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I'm guessing the hospital costs were covered and they are looking for additional money? Yea I read it, It's additional money for rehab. Bummer deal. All...
I'm guessing the hospital costs were covered and they are looking for additional money?

Yea I read it, It's additional money for rehab. Bummer deal. All the best to your grandma man!
I have no clue at this point about any coverage. All I care about is my mom waking up and surviving. It's to help her financially in anyway we can. Thank u
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7/17/2015 7:15am
rettaross wrote:
I have no clue at this point about any coverage. All I care about is my mom waking up and surviving. It's to help her financially...
I have no clue at this point about any coverage. All I care about is my mom waking up and surviving. It's to help her financially in anyway we can. Thank u
All the best for a full and speedy recovery.

I have to say I'm a little confused about why there is a need for donations.
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Go fund me type sites are running rampant with scammers. Posts like this should not be allowed until they have been thoroughly researched and approved by Vital staff.

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newmann wrote:
Go fund me type sites are running rampant with scammers. Posts like this should not be allowed until they have been thoroughly researched and approved by...
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What people also don't realize is that the money raised is taxable. While you the person donates might be able to use it as a deduction, the person getting the money is showing a profit and is therefore subject to the tax law.

I might suggest being specific with how you plan to use the money. If the track is covering medical costs, then explain why $28,000 and how it will be used.

If you're going to ask people to donate, tell then why.

Your story was compelling and sad and my best to your family. Hope she gets better.
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7/17/2015 8:04am
A point about the Insurance Co. Paying, etc. ...

The person that gets treated at the Hospital is WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BILLING. Period.

Insurance Companies take their sweet-assed time paying for this kid of shit...playing the liability game...reassigning blame...& all that shit.

Meanwhile, the person who went to the Hospital gets all the bills. All the stress. All the worry.

As for scams & what not? In a community the size of ours, we should be able to validate that this is the woman that was hurt...anyone know these folks?
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7/17/2015 8:26am
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A point about the Insurance Co. Paying, etc. ... The person that gets treated at the Hospital is WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BILLING. Period. Insurance...
A point about the Insurance Co. Paying, etc. ...

The person that gets treated at the Hospital is WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BILLING. Period.

Insurance Companies take their sweet-assed time paying for this kid of shit...playing the liability game...reassigning blame...& all that shit.

Meanwhile, the person who went to the Hospital gets all the bills. All the stress. All the worry.

As for scams & what not? In a community the size of ours, we should be able to validate that this is the woman that was hurt...anyone know these folks?
Team green thank u. U got it. Any questions about validity can be relayed through the face book page at cahuilla creek motocross and the owners there. Also there is a small news article about it from cal fire. Thank you for your kindness.
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Zaugg wrote:
What people also don't realize is that the money raised is taxable. While you the person donates might be able to use it as a deduction...
What people also don't realize is that the money raised is taxable. While you the person donates might be able to use it as a deduction, the person getting the money is showing a profit and is therefore subject to the tax law.

I might suggest being specific with how you plan to use the money. If the track is covering medical costs, then explain why $28,000 and how it will be used.

If you're going to ask people to donate, tell then why.

Your story was compelling and sad and my best to your family. Hope she gets better.
The money will b for a lap top for mom also to help with the cost incurred for any and all hospital bills. The idea is to be able to have a small reserve for my mother to not have to worry about her truck payment and the stress of back and forth to dr and appointments. The goal is just a figure. Of course every penny helps but I just want people to b safe at the track. Aware of surroundings and send good thoughts and prayers.
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A new laptop? I'm sorry but I would donate to help your mom with medical expenses, but the track should be insured and carry enough to cover your mom's bills.

But to ask for money to buy her a laptop..... No thanks.

Hope your mom gets a full and speedy recovery though.

Quick question, why would a track allow a spectator to enter the track and be inside a flagger hut? This is a huge liability and now they see why.
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7/17/2015 9:56am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 9:57am
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I had actually brought this up to ML a while back. Making a separate section for gofundme and such so that people who want to donate can look there, but those who don't want to donate aren't having it pushed on them. It really should have its own section since lately when something bad happens, the first thing to do is set up a donation account and ask. It's become way too easy for people to put their hand out these days, and people have no hesitation in doing so. I don't really understand it. When I got hurt this year, the only thing I asked for was well wishes and visits! I understand the medical bills, long recovery, etc. I haven't been to work since April 18. And I'll be lucky to get back to light duty maybe around September sometime. I still wouldn't accept donations.

I feel for the OP's family member. But $28,000?!? Where'd that number even come from? And what exactly is it going to be used for? $28,000 buys a hell of a laptop. That's not asking for a small cash reserve (which hopefully she has some cash reserve already). The track is really the ones who should be trying to cover expenses...but even so, you wonder what she was doing out of the spectator area. Hope she gets well soon.

Shane
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So you weren't active here until you wanted to ask us for money? Even if you're not a scammer, that's in poor taste.
7/17/2015 9:59am
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I had actually brought this up to ML a while back. Making a separate section for gofundme and such so that people who want to donate...
I had actually brought this up to ML a while back. Making a separate section for gofundme and such so that people who want to donate can look there, but those who don't want to donate aren't having it pushed on them. It really should have its own section since lately when something bad happens, the first thing to do is set up a donation account and ask. It's become way too easy for people to put their hand out these days, and people have no hesitation in doing so. I don't really understand it. When I got hurt this year, the only thing I asked for was well wishes and visits! I understand the medical bills, long recovery, etc. I haven't been to work since April 18. And I'll be lucky to get back to light duty maybe around September sometime. I still wouldn't accept donations.

I feel for the OP's family member. But $28,000?!? Where'd that number even come from? And what exactly is it going to be used for? $28,000 buys a hell of a laptop. That's not asking for a small cash reserve (which hopefully she has some cash reserve already). The track is really the ones who should be trying to cover expenses...but even so, you wonder what she was doing out of the spectator area. Hope she gets well soon.

Shane
Agreed. I've seen these pages for paying off student loans, for getting into college, towing a car home etc. Not sure when it started being OK to ask for handouts.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to the OP's mom.
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7/17/2015 10:01am
So you weren't active here until you wanted to ask us for money? Even if you're not a scammer, that's in poor taste.
That!
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7/17/2015 10:05am
Zaugg wrote:
What people also don't realize is that the money raised is taxable. While you the person donates might be able to use it as a deduction...
What people also don't realize is that the money raised is taxable. While you the person donates might be able to use it as a deduction, the person getting the money is showing a profit and is therefore subject to the tax law.

I might suggest being specific with how you plan to use the money. If the track is covering medical costs, then explain why $28,000 and how it will be used.

If you're going to ask people to donate, tell then why.

Your story was compelling and sad and my best to your family. Hope she gets better.
Not true. It is not income, it's a gift and gifts are not taxable.
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7/17/2015 10:06am
Wow u all are very pre judge mental people with no common courtesy. I will delete the thread and I hope none of u ever suffer the way our family has. There is a lot of backstory to this incident. I don't want a dime I want awareness the 28000 was a number thrown out there. don't blame the track or anyone else. Before judging s book or any human or incident get your facts straight. There will be very negative feedback left about this site. Thank u for those kind enough to send well wishes. To the rest of u maybe u r greedy and have no compassion but not everyone in the world is that way. Thank u best of luck
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7/17/2015 10:14am
You can't ask for donations and then give negative feedback because no one donated.
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7/17/2015 10:17am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 10:23am
rettaross wrote:
Wow u all are very pre judge mental people with no common courtesy. I will delete the thread and I hope none of u ever suffer...
Wow u all are very pre judge mental people with no common courtesy. I will delete the thread and I hope none of u ever suffer the way our family has. There is a lot of backstory to this incident. I don't want a dime I want awareness the 28000 was a number thrown out there. don't blame the track or anyone else. Before judging s book or any human or incident get your facts straight. There will be very negative feedback left about this site. Thank u for those kind enough to send well wishes. To the rest of u maybe u r greedy and have no compassion but not everyone in the world is that way. Thank u best of luck
Common courtesy would be not telling you to go and fuck yourself. Almost everyone wished your mother the best.

Don't let the door slam you in the ass on the way out.

You don't want any money? Yeah, right. We all have our hard luck stories, we don't all use it as an opportunity to raise cash though. Human nature I suppose. There's many better ways to raise awareness.

Nah, I'm gonna have to call BS!

Shame on us ya reckon. Nah. Shame on you mate.
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7/17/2015 10:17am
rettaross wrote:
Wow u all are very pre judge mental people with no common courtesy. I will delete the thread and I hope none of u ever suffer...
Wow u all are very pre judge mental people with no common courtesy. I will delete the thread and I hope none of u ever suffer the way our family has. There is a lot of backstory to this incident. I don't want a dime I want awareness the 28000 was a number thrown out there. don't blame the track or anyone else. Before judging s book or any human or incident get your facts straight. There will be very negative feedback left about this site. Thank u for those kind enough to send well wishes. To the rest of u maybe u r greedy and have no compassion but not everyone in the world is that way. Thank u best of luck
You don't want a dime? You asked for $28,000!! Since someone decided to not donate they don't have "compassion?" Wow. Assuming you ride, why don't you start by selling your bike? There is a way to ask for help and you certainly don't understand that.
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7/17/2015 10:20am
Awareness would be joining the forum and telling your story. Not slapping a $28k donation request out to the side of it and tell us that you are buying her a new laptop.


Like I said, I hope she gets well soon, but like mxknowitall said, try selling your bike first.
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7/17/2015 10:24am
rettaross wrote:
Please take a moment to read this touching story and pass this on to the motocross community. Thank you.

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10207518222818817&id=1386…
Best wishes to your mom for a rapid and complete recovery. I just bought a refurbished laptop at the local computer shop for $125. It works great and the guy promised to stand behind it if I had any issues. So far, so good.
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7/17/2015 10:27am
So you weren't active here until you wanted to ask us for money? Even if you're not a scammer, that's in poor taste.
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Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid.

"O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all the shit talking, fuck no I'm not giving you any money in your time of need"

The story seems valid enough.

With your guys thought process I assume you never help out the guy on the corner because you assume he is going to buy booze with it....who gives a shit what he does with it. Do it to be a good person and hope the money is going to good use.

You don't have to donate, but talking shit and voicing your objections is pretty pathetic.
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Everyone please ride safe keep ur eyes open and tires in the dirt. I don't want the money. For the last time the 28000 was a god dam number that I pulled out of my ass. I want good thoughts and prayers I wish this on no one. Ps once again don't jump to conclusions. The bike is sold already and paying for me to be away from my job so that I can care for my mother. Sorry to bother anyone on here. Safe riding no money wanted. Good wishes and good thoughts. That's it.
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7/17/2015 10:33am
JBlain619 wrote:
Not true. It is not income, it's a gift and gifts are not taxable.
Actually that's not true. While "Im not an expert, it's worthwhile doing your homework. This could be considered income.

Off The GoFundMe website:

Am I responsible for taxes? (US Only)

While this is by no means a guarantee, donations on GoFundMe are usually considered to be "personal gifts" which are not taxed as income in the US. We're unable to provide specific tax advice since everyone's situation is different so we always recommend checking with a tax professional to be sure.


Additionally, WePay will not report the funds you collect as earned income. It is up to you (and a tax professional) to determine whether your proceeds represent taxable income. The person who's listed on the WePay account and ultimately receives the funds may be responsible for taxes.


If you collect at least $20,000 and over 200 donations in the calendar year, WePay will send you a 1099-K form by January 31st of the following year. The 1099-K form is simply intended to track the movement of funds.


I'd be checking with my tax professional before asking for free money on GoFundMe.

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7/17/2015 10:34am Edited Date/Time 7/17/2015 10:39am
So you weren't active here until you wanted to ask us for money? Even if you're not a scammer, that's in poor taste.
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Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid. "O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all...
Fuck you guys are pretty gnarly on this kid.

"O wait you don't come on this board on a regular bases and beat off to all the shit talking, fuck no I'm not giving you any money in your time of need"

The story seems valid enough.

With your guys thought process I assume you never help out the guy on the corner because you assume he is going to buy booze with it....who gives a shit what he does with it. Do it to be a good person and hope the money is going to good use.

You don't have to donate, but talking shit and voicing your objections is pretty pathetic.
Com'on mate Dry .The bloke asking for $28K so he can get his Mom a LapTop told us we are greedy and have no common courtesy Laughing .
In the next breath he claimed he didn't want a dime. But wants to get her a LapTop. That'd require cash wouldn't it?

Is that how you'd choose to raise awareness? I'm awear that It's all a bit Ironic.
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rettaross wrote:
Everyone please ride safe keep ur eyes open and tires in the dirt. I don't want the money. For the last time the 28000 was a...
Everyone please ride safe keep ur eyes open and tires in the dirt. I don't want the money. For the last time the 28000 was a god dam number that I pulled out of my ass. I want good thoughts and prayers I wish this on no one. Ps once again don't jump to conclusions. The bike is sold already and paying for me to be away from my job so that I can care for my mother. Sorry to bother anyone on here. Safe riding no money wanted. Good wishes and good thoughts. That's it.
Just one more suggestion, maybe talk to the Rider Down Foundation. While she didn't get hurt riding it was a "riding incident" and you're obviously a rider. She supports the sport, you support the sport, this is a better resource than GoFundMe and it's in the motorcycle family.

Might be worth a look.

Best wishes to your mom and I hope she gets well soon.

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