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The track in castle rock was CDR. It was closed before I was able to ride the MX track but we used to sneak in and ride what was left of the road course on our rr bikes they cut the drag strip up about every 10 yards or so with a back hoe but you could ride all the corners and then just turn around and go back.
What the fuck does that tell you?
45 minute moto's means you just went slower for longer.
don't forget to ask jody.
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Your stuff just gets sillier.
What tracks have they lengthened?
The lap times are faster Because the BIKES are faster and because they GROOM the tracks all the time now and a lot of the tracks do NOT get as ROUGH now because they are not getting as many RIDERS and as many LAPS turned as they did at one time.
WTF does that tell YOU?????????
MR
However it seems there are more factors involved in how we judge the sport today. Tracks seem less rough to us, but really they are quite trecherous and some of todays top riders make it look easy. If one were to hit a medium sized bump at moderate speed on an older bike there is quite a bit of disruption as one can see in the video clip here, but today's bikes allow to hit that same bump at a higher speed. This speed increase makes the track roughness a function of motocross technology, track prep, and rider skill (and a few others).
It appears some riders today are not the super masculine men of an era passed, but just because the tracks they race on today are TV friendly and manicured does not mean the ratio of technology to track design has changed.
Oh and some of the commentators who were ex factory guys look at RC, JS, RV and have to admit what they are doing is very extraordinary.
Did Aldon Baker train Wardy? Or was Wardy just an animal because kids picked on him for his red hair and freckles?
Wake the fuck up. Show me a picture of Wardy flicked as flat as Barcia and we can then discuss how in 25 fucking years the sport has gone backwards. (but you still watch)
you think these riders today just started doing shit out of the blue? guys like ward and danny paved the way for many of these punks (no wonder they are your heroes) to do what they do in their little am races and impress fucksticks like yerself. And they all did it without roids and PED's.
wow....
I guess flicking it sideways would be important.
Much more important that being one of the most fit racers ever, like Ward, who also used a legendary trainer with a bicycle and olympic background.
Or maybe just being as tough as eating a chingshin knobby, like Ward, who started the out door series one year with a broken leg that he had a screw put in and used in air cast in a boot a couple of sizes too big so he would not be out of the champoinship run.
Knowitallnovice, your shallow observations continue to amaze me.
Please keep me amused for bit more with your senseless dribble until you finally fade into obscurity.
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That's not just an opinion, that's something that Lechien, Ross Pederson, Jeff Emig, Jim Holley and others have told me to my face.
I think the very top guys' fitness is just as good as the old guys but overall, I think the old guys were in better shape. They had to be if you look at their old bikes they had to ride.
we must be talking about 2 different things steve.
lmao...fact is an 16 year old bailey or magoo would be right in the thick of it nowadays.
and the thing about PED's...you know exactly what i am talking about steve...address that issue if you got the balls.
hahahaha... ross pederson? lmfao.
Anyways, yes put a 16 yr old Magoo or Bailey in today and they would be in the thick of it, you're right. I'm just saying the bikes of today and the way everything is structured now leads me to believe (and the old guys also) that the guys of today are better than ever.
As far as PED's, what do you want me to say? I have no proof of anything and clearly one look at me and you know I don't run in those circles. Do I think guys have/had done them? Yes.
Now what?
A young Ronnie was so on it the first half of the 1st moto! watch his feet on the pegs powerslide, its incredible how fluid he rode that works 500 machinery.
*i hope both vids uploaded successfully, keep and eye on the main video page here at Vital. They are in 2 parts.
I go to a lot of races and study riders, and if you took the best the 80s or 90s had to offer and dumped him on todays bike, James would kill them. But lets say Bailey was born in 1990 and came up in todays Am races and learned todays style, I think James and RC would have a lot less wins because of Baileys natural ability and sheer determination.
Riders like Hannah, Ward, Barnett, and Stanton were animals and they would have won in any era they were born into, but they wouldnt win if you took them out of their era into this one.
C'mon...what do you think all?
Some fool(s) on here seem to think B riders from today would be competitive in that scenario.....
MR
What was said is that the speed on the '83 video is today's B class.
Speed.
No matter the bikes, the training, the PED's, the balls etc.
Speed.
Thanks Mathes for reading about the discussion and settling the debate.
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