GP of Argentina: Race day bench racing!

Vecchia Scuola 3/29/2015 10:29am
3/29/2015 10:29am
It's just great racing...
no matter the country.
MXGP level is so high
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PabstBR11 3/29/2015 10:29am
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RV is fine... he is very fast like he always is when the track is smooth and suits his USA style - wide open. But this...
RV is fine... he is very fast like he always is when the track is smooth and suits his USA style - wide open.

But this is the world championship... every track is different and you are going to different countries every week and it's rougher. Being wide open doesn't always work... you have to be versatile, that's what makes you the best in the world. That's why AC is currently the best... he has all the pieces of the puzzle.

You can never claim a guy winning his own national championship is the best in the world until he does it in the World Championship - it's the toughest outdoor series in the world.

RV can still win this title but he needs to become more versatile with his riding and quickly, his one dimensional style works in the USA or on tracks that suit him but this GP series is the a different ballgame. He is good enough to figure it out and it will make him a better rider but he is 25 points down to Desalle already, he needs to come out swinging next moto!
All this talk of winning AMA championships being 2nd rate to the gp title is crazy to me. I don't think you have to win the gp title on any year to be the best in the world. So whoever won the gp title in the same years rc was winning or Hannah, RJ was better than them since they didn't go over and ride the gps???
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mmm mmm pancakes anyone? Cool
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Sideways 3/29/2015 10:31am
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RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
Well he was a 4th-6th guy this moto. As i said in previous post, he can very well win next moto! So can 5-6 other guys. Thats why this is the best season ever Smile

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Rick M. wrote:
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
"Make your Euro racers look like pussies"

Do the admins just ignore this stuff?
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SquidBro wrote:
Whomever you're rooting for this freaking great racing brosephs!
ocscottie wrote:
Spot on!

..just an incredible weekend. The F1 race last night was also one for the ages.
Can you believe the change in Ferrari?!? I bet Alonso is a bit bummed not finishing and his old team back on top!
Allshownogo 3/29/2015 10:32am
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RV needs an IV like all the other top guys who ride the US series get. Yup I just said it, and yup I'm just speculating but we will see how far his lap times drop off from moto 1 and I think it will tell us something.

Anywho, it's no doubt these guys haul serious doopa. I dont think RV is as trained as he has in the past and I think he is focused moreso on the travel aspect at times instead of training and racing...which I say good for him. He dominated the US and has dominated MXDN motos so what does he really need to show? Just have fun on your tour out of dirtbike racing.

I hope he can come back after some adjustments in moto 2 but if he sails in another 4th, good for him.
crusty_xx 3/29/2015 10:32am
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Rick M. wrote:
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
Hm yeah
New track to everyone you know.
You don't need half a season to adapt to the fact that you have more time available for practice.
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kongols 3/29/2015 10:32am
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ocscottie wrote:
RV is getting smoked, there are no excuses to be made.
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yep, I love it. Poor Kongols... Smile
Don`t feel sorry for me. I`m euro, I can switch teams anytime I want.Whistling Laughing But I want RV to beat Cairoli.
aFACEdismembered 3/29/2015 10:33am
3/29/2015 10:33am
Poto only had to race Dungey for a full outdoor series when he was healthy over here. He essentially has 5-6 Dungey's to race against now. There was no Stewart, Tomac, Barcia, Roczen, Reed Chadapulted himself, no Canard, a lot of guys were hurt, sitting out or in 250's.

Not an excuse. There's just more guys capable of running his pace, or close to it. It's not 2013 or 2011. He won't blitz through the pack with a bad start in this series. The time delta's are just to close.
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ocscottie 3/29/2015 10:34am
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Rick M. wrote:
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
Flex wrote:
"Make your Euro racers look like pussies"

Do the admins just ignore this stuff?
I tend to let people sit and embarrass themselves. Whistling
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markit 3/29/2015 10:34am
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That was some great racing, i am pulling for RV im from the US but it is what it isRV got 4th I think that's a good placment if you look at it from a championship point of vue? I was way into the SE72 years of MXGP, one of my fav riders too!
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kongols 3/29/2015 10:34am
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RV needs DV more than Aldon. As soon as track get`s rough, especially braking bumps, he struggles.
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Seamorbutts 3/29/2015 10:35am
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patrickadizzle wrote:
I really don't think RV needs Aldon, I think he is just getting beat straight up by faster guys, or at least guys who know how...
I really don't think RV needs Aldon, I think he is just getting beat straight up by faster guys, or at least guys who know how to GO faster without just hammering the throttle.

Seems like to me the GP guys not only have better setups, but are just more technically sound and fluid on the bike which allows them to float around the track. Yeah, RV has probably the most raw speed out of anyone, but at what cost to his setup ? He looks like he is bulldozing through everything, which works, but not nearly as well as the smooth styles of Cairoli and Deasalle.

Speaking of Desalle, how crazy would that be if he won the whole shebang? With the whole focus being on TC and RV, it would be a great upset.

Moto 2 will be interesting, bring it on !
By smooth style, do you mean way softer suspension? Lol, I get It, they have a smoother style than RV, but who doesn't. Most racers do. Now, you could definitely tell RV was fighting his setup again. He was never known for setting up a bike or even having to. I remember when it was said RV would just ride his bike the same all season and never really change anything. Plus, Chad even said RV has a messed up way for a setup. Didn't even know how RV could ride it. I believe they will be chasing this for a while because RV really has know clue how to get it to work at this point. Just my opinion.
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Rowlands 3/29/2015 10:36am
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Flex wrote:
"Make your Euro racers look like pussies"

Do the admins just ignore this stuff?
Just ignore it. You won't win they will never give credit to euros so don't waste your time
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Sidecar 3/29/2015 10:36am
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Ok 2nd motos, I'm saying Herlings is mad and wants this but he doesn't have the track knowledge, Ferrandis will push him hard for the first 20 mins.

Mxgp let's keep the championship alive and see RV take this one, CD25 pushing hard to retain his red plate. Hope 222 is able to fight too after that crash.
overthebars39 3/29/2015 10:38am
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pilotdude wrote:
All the great champions despise losing. Losing and the hate of losing inspires them to push harder and farther than their competition. If you don't know...
All the great champions despise losing. Losing and the hate of losing inspires them to push harder and farther than their competition. If you don't know that already, well you apparently don't study the champions much. And if you think I or anyone else need to be a national champion in motocross to know that in general about them, you are a true idiot and the one with zero credibility.
How is that relevant to not accepting the loss? A lot of hero talk with subjective and ad hominem arguments, but nothing else. Stop talking like you speak in the name of those champions and enjoy the race.

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Seamorbutts 3/29/2015 10:39am
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kongols wrote:
RV needs DV more than Aldon. As soon as track get`s rough, especially braking bumps, he struggles.
Finally someone who gets it!!! Geez, It's not that hard to figure out. Soften the damn thing up finally. It's good when there isn't so many dang bumps. It's not "rocket surgery". lol
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Sideways 3/29/2015 10:40am
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Sidecar wrote:
Ok 2nd motos, I'm saying Herlings is mad and wants this but he doesn't have the track knowledge, Ferrandis will push him hard for the first...
Ok 2nd motos, I'm saying Herlings is mad and wants this but he doesn't have the track knowledge, Ferrandis will push him hard for the first 20 mins.

Mxgp let's keep the championship alive and see RV take this one, CD25 pushing hard to retain his red plate. Hope 222 is able to fight too after that crash.
Ferrandis wont be able to push herlings. Herlings will dominate
MX Sports Medicine 3/29/2015 10:40am
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Rick M. wrote:
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
Post like this make us America's look like idiots.
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TDeath21 3/29/2015 10:41am
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Poto only had to race Dungey for a full outdoor series when he was healthy over here. He essentially has 5-6 Dungey's to race against now...
Poto only had to race Dungey for a full outdoor series when he was healthy over here. He essentially has 5-6 Dungey's to race against now. There was no Stewart, Tomac, Barcia, Roczen, Reed Chadapulted himself, no Canard, a lot of guys were hurt, sitting out or in 250's.

Not an excuse. There's just more guys capable of running his pace, or close to it. It's not 2013 or 2011. He won't blitz through the pack with a bad start in this series. The time delta's are just to close.
Huh? In 2013, Stewart, Reed, Dungey, and Canard were all there and he won 18 motos.
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edgo897 3/29/2015 10:41am
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Rick M. wrote:
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
Flex wrote:
"Make your Euro racers look like pussies"

Do the admins just ignore this stuff?
A pussie is a flower so something isn't it? I forget.
wired4speed 3/29/2015 10:44am
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Rick M. wrote:
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face...
RV is going to be better 2nd moto, trust me. And all you guys who say he's a 4th to 6th guy, shut your fucking face up. It's his 3rd fucking round of his LIFE in the GP's. And he's getting top 5's. That's enough to make all your Euro racers look like pussies. I'm sad for all you guys when he hits his stride in a few rounds!!
MX Sports Medicine wrote:
Post like this make us America's look like idiots.
I disagree....only one man is looking like an idiot.
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Sidecar 3/29/2015 10:44am
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Fairplay dude!!!!!
And to the people throwing personal insults at me a couple of pages back...... Really grow up.
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h&m_cycle 3/29/2015 10:44am
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RV is getting paid either way, he's burned out, he said it....
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Flex wrote:
"Make your Euro racers look like pussies"

Do the admins just ignore this stuff?
Rowlands wrote:
Just ignore it. You won't win they will never give credit to euros so don't waste your time
Not all of us...

Idiots know no geographical boundaries... They are everywhere! The real skill is learning how to dodge them!
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markit 3/29/2015 10:45am
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I'm pulling for the track ho but looks like the bobcat may be comming into the front strait first.

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