notice how low the speed was on that jungle track

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Beatiful thing,watched it again a bit ago. A jacked up track like that makes for bad tv ,maybe,but damn good racing.

That is one thing I like about mxgp,no tractors out there making like my garden.

If my local stuff was left like that ,well,that would never happen,delusional thinking
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The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last weekend and 48km/h in Valkenswaard last year.

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Olson wrote:
The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last...
The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last weekend and 48km/h in Valkenswaard last year.

Is that an average over the entire moto and length of track? Distance measure dkwn the middle?

That is an amazing stat.
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Whatcha growin in that garden bro? lil devil's lettuce?
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Randy... FYI Jesus was a weed farmer not Lucifer.. That's why its so good for ya!

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Olson wrote:
The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last...
The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last weekend and 48km/h in Valkenswaard last year.

hillbilly wrote:
Is that an average over the entire moto and length of track? Distance measure dkwn the middle?

That is an amazing stat.
Average speed, time on track/length of track. They list it in the far right column.





I'm starting to think I might be wrong on this. The times don't line up. It should be impossible for Bengtsson to have a faster speed than a guy a head of him who's run the same amount of laps. Need to digger deeper into this. Either way. FIM want's the speed decreased to 50km/h on all FIM local tracks to prevent injuries. It has worked really good over here in Sweden. Therefore we can see speed on the protocols over here.
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Olson wrote:
Average speed, time on track/length of track. They list it in the far right column. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/10/83297/s1200_Skarmavbild_2015_03_10_kl._20.55.37.jpg[/img] I'm starting to think I might be wrong on this...
Average speed, time on track/length of track. They list it in the far right column.





I'm starting to think I might be wrong on this. The times don't line up. It should be impossible for Bengtsson to have a faster speed than a guy a head of him who's run the same amount of laps. Need to digger deeper into this. Either way. FIM want's the speed decreased to 50km/h on all FIM local tracks to prevent injuries. It has worked really good over here in Sweden. Therefore we can see speed on the protocols over here.
Average speed on their best lap...
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thats 20 mph slower than budds creek
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hillbilly wrote:
Beatiful thing,watched it again a bit ago. A jacked up track like that makes for bad tv ,maybe,but damn good racing. That is one thing I...
Beatiful thing,watched it again a bit ago. A jacked up track like that makes for bad tv ,maybe,but damn good racing.

That is one thing I like about mxgp,no tractors out there making like my garden.

If my local stuff was left like that ,well,that would never happen,delusional thinking
I heard it was too "jumpy" and "dangerous" by the tender Non-Americans...
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TMV wrote:
Average speed on their best lap...
That's it!
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RPM68 wrote:
thats 20 mph slower than budds creek
I call bs.
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RPM68 wrote:
thats 20 mph slower than budds creek
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I call bs.
You can call it bs, just dont call Budds a highway.
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hillbilly wrote:
Beatiful thing,watched it again a bit ago. A jacked up track like that makes for bad tv ,maybe,but damn good racing. That is one thing I...
Beatiful thing,watched it again a bit ago. A jacked up track like that makes for bad tv ,maybe,but damn good racing.

That is one thing I like about mxgp,no tractors out there making like my garden.

If my local stuff was left like that ,well,that would never happen,delusional thinking
roost wrote:
I heard it was too "jumpy" and "dangerous" by the tender Non-Americans...
Wasnt anything out there that i wouldn't hit,looked fun,and to be so jacked up,that is moto.
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Olson wrote:
The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last...
The speed was 56km/h first MXGP moto and 55km/h the second. Pretty average or even above average for the GP's. It was 52km/h in Qatar last weekend and 48km/h in Valkenswaard last year.

hillbilly wrote:
Is that an average over the entire moto and length of track? Distance measure dkwn the middle?

That is an amazing stat.
Olson wrote:
Average speed, time on track/length of track. They list it in the far right column. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/10/83297/s1200_Skarmavbild_2015_03_10_kl._20.55.37.jpg[/img] I'm starting to think I might be wrong on this...
Average speed, time on track/length of track. They list it in the far right column.





I'm starting to think I might be wrong on this. The times don't line up. It should be impossible for Bengtsson to have a faster speed than a guy a head of him who's run the same amount of laps. Need to digger deeper into this. Either way. FIM want's the speed decreased to 50km/h on all FIM local tracks to prevent injuries. It has worked really good over here in Sweden. Therefore we can see speed on the protocols over here.
I'm not seeing track length,am i blind?
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34 mph tops...
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Is this speed goal an average for the lap or no straight over that speed.

Cause you could do 80 and 30 and average 55.

And I applaud this,they go way to fast here and the tracks are insane in airtime anymore.

It may be for the tv show but the only people watching are motoheads,it aint dragging other people in ,always been that way,always will.
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Whatcha growin in that garden bro? lil devil's lettuce?
I use it to make rope, oh man,the tales i could tell of my outdoor and indoor growing days and nearly getting caught. Funded my racing for years off it though in the 80s.
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3/10/2015 10:59pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2015 11:08pm
Average (and top) speeds in MX are Not the sort of thing you can boast about, with numbers.

Quote them to the average yokel, and they'll never be impressed.

I'm not 100% sure, but GPs have had an average speed limitation of around the 60 / 65 Kmph for years now. I'd be surprised if there was not one for the US Nats tracks.

MX, is not fast - in terms of numbers. SX, must be hilariously low in 'numbers' you can quote.. Yet we, who ride, know just how bloody fast the riders are.

I was recently watching a few classic GPs. Ones with notably fast, fast sections. Far more so than any now, anywhere. To then hear the commentators give out a lap average speed of just over 55 Kph. Just makes you realize how tricky / tight many sections of a course are.

Then you get races like the Isle Of Man TT, and Irish Real Roads Racing. Now those numbers, are bloody frightening, especially when you see the narrow sections in villages / towns and between stone walls. I think the record lap average speed, on the TT course of 37.7 / .8 miles, with over 200 corners per lap, is in the 132.7 Mph range. Aye Carumbah! Brave, Brave men ( and a few women) indeed. Few specially built Moto GP courses, get average lap speeds near the TT, and some Irish Real Roads Races.

With my work 'contra deals', I've the option to go to a few MX GPs this year, and the MXDN, as usual. I've also got the option to go to the IOMTT, again. And,the Manx GP / IOM Classic GP weeks have also been dangled in front of me. I'm probably taking the 'double' on the Isle Of Man. Ernee was a Zoo in 2005 - it will be a nightmare this year, so I might just stick to being a Tar Baby. Mind you, I'm agitating for more work, to get to some MX GPs, And, especially, a Sidecarcross GP. They, are brilliant!.
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Those tighter,slower turns will pull the speed figures down,they were almost at a standstill on the corner at the end of the pit box straight
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hillbilly wrote:
Wasnt anything out there that i wouldn't hit,looked fun,and to be so jacked up,that is moto.
The AMA tracks & racing is great for TV. The slick, technical GP tracks are a completely different beast.

Also just out of interest what part of the track was "jacked up"? I watched it all and didn't see any raised sections & looked fairly flat? But then they don't show the entire track on TV either?
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hillbilly wrote:
Wasnt anything out there that i wouldn't hit,looked fun,and to be so jacked up,that is moto.
Jimfunn wrote:
The AMA tracks & racing is great for TV. The slick, technical GP tracks are a completely different beast. Also just out of interest what part...
The AMA tracks & racing is great for TV. The slick, technical GP tracks are a completely different beast.

Also just out of interest what part of the track was "jacked up"? I watched it all and didn't see any raised sections & looked fairly flat? But then they don't show the entire track on TV either?
In this context I think by 'jacked up' he meant shitty.
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3/11/2015 5:13am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2015 5:16am
FIM rule book. That`s 40 mph. They design tracks to fit rule book.



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hillbilly wrote:
Wasnt anything out there that i wouldn't hit,looked fun,and to be so jacked up,that is moto.
Jimfunn wrote:
The AMA tracks & racing is great for TV. The slick, technical GP tracks are a completely different beast. Also just out of interest what part...
The AMA tracks & racing is great for TV. The slick, technical GP tracks are a completely different beast.

Also just out of interest what part of the track was "jacked up"? I watched it all and didn't see any raised sections & looked fairly flat? But then they don't show the entire track on TV either?
jamma10 wrote:
In this context I think by 'jacked up' he meant shitty.
Jacked up means beat,whooped,choppy,chewed. Like it should be. If it was getting plowed between motos the speeds would be way up and the start way to important.
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3/11/2015 6:14am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2015 6:17am
RPM68 wrote:
thats 20 mph slower than budds creek
Olson wrote:
I call bs.
Zracer wrote:
You can call it bs, just dont call Budds a highway.
During Mxon in 2007, RC had a top speed of 53 MPH, RV (on his 250f) had a top speed of 54.

call BS all you want, I will never forget it.


Edit: I remember that being specifically TOP speed, not Average. My bad.

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