Thailand GP Bench Racing - The Motos

mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:48am
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Showa did even send in extra people but i guess they dosent count.
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RY4N37 3/8/2015 11:52am
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What are you going to say now... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83017/s1200_krt1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83018/s1200_krt2.jpg[/img] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525 Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
What are you going to say now...





https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kawasaki-MX-Racing-Team/487300311306525

Complete new team indeed... 2 new guys...
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Complete new team for Ryan yes? cant you read the word "most there "? And as you can see they dont show the whole staff there...
Complete new team for Ryan yes? cant you read the word "most there "? And as you can see they dont show the whole staff there. Plenty of people around Ryan to not just the mechanics right , suspension crew? You got gear sponsor, monster people from europe. Did you post anything of them ?
You said the team he's riding for was scrambled from 'factory Japan' and other personnell from other Kawi teams around Europe. And that Ryans team didn't exist last season. Which is completely wrong. There are 2 new additions to the team, that's it. The team has been running for years without major changes.
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jamma10 3/8/2015 11:53am
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I was equally impressed with all three of the top riders. Now can we stop the arguing?
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Not when people like RY4N37 trying to give information about teams that is incorrect, but other than that ofc we can. I was to and i...
Not when people like RY4N37 trying to give information about teams that is incorrect, but other than that ofc we can. I was to and i hope RV goes 1-1 in Argentina and that Paul Malin gives out correct information about riders. Tyla left ktm 2002 to race kawi since then haha ridicolous.
You're right he did say that, but it was clearly a minor mistake and totally insignificant.

Last year Grant Langston told the viewers that 250 rider Jackson Richardson was an Australian Champion who had come to America because it's where all the champions want to come and race... Jackson Richardson has never won a professional title and whats more, the actual reigning Australian 250 Champion Luke Styke was racing the GPs at the time. That's what you call mis-information!
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jamma10 3/8/2015 11:55am
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mikebrownsound wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83022/s1200_gagasgas.jpg[/img] Showa did even send in extra people but i guess they dosent count.


Showa did even send in extra people but i guess they dosent count.
The dude on the right is his man-friend/mechanic. As you well know.

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mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:55am
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RY4N37 wrote:
You said the team he's riding for was scrambled from 'factory Japan' and other personnell from other Kawi teams around Europe. And that Ryans team didn't...
You said the team he's riding for was scrambled from 'factory Japan' and other personnell from other Kawi teams around Europe. And that Ryans team didn't exist last season. Which is completely wrong. There are 2 new additions to the team, that's it. The team has been running for years without major changes.
BY factory Japan not from. I know for a fact Tylas mechanic was at budds racing not to long ago. And there is not two new additions there is more behind the scenes with people you dont have a clue aobut except your little google page. Do you know anything within the industry. Do you know any riders personal i dont spend more time to argue with you.
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philG 3/8/2015 11:56am
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lies ... all lies.
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Is it not a new team from Ryan new people ? New staff members? Or was it exact the same as last year? Well ive seen...
Is it not a new team from Ryan new people ? New staff members? Or was it exact the same as last year? Well ive seen you posting alot of shits before so you going to the ignore list now. Tired of britts like you with no knowledge at all keyboard warrior.. The difference between me and you is that i know people within the industry and you dont cause you sit here on vital posting shit all day long.
When was the last time you worked in the GP paddock ??

'i know people within the industry'..... give me fucking strength.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:57am
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The dude on the right is his man-friend/mechanic. As you well know.
i know i just did a circel. But according to some of the "boys here" the team is exactly the same and its not new for Ryan i keep saying its NEW for Ryan. And Kawasaki corporation in Japan deciede wich team they want to help out. Because some of the personal was there last year dosent tell that the team is exactly the same.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 11:59am
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When was the last time you worked in the GP paddock ??

'i know people within the industry'..... give me fucking strength.
Done with you. Random britt. we getting a bit of topic in the end and will keep argue. So have a nice day.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:01pm
3/8/2015 12:01pm
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You're right he did say that, but it was clearly a minor mistake and totally insignificant. Last year Grant Langston told the viewers that 250 rider...
You're right he did say that, but it was clearly a minor mistake and totally insignificant.

Last year Grant Langston told the viewers that 250 rider Jackson Richardson was an Australian Champion who had come to America because it's where all the champions want to come and race... Jackson Richardson has never won a professional title and whats more, the actual reigning Australian 250 Champion Luke Styke was racing the GPs at the time. That's what you call mis-information!
I agree. But its funny when he makes that mistakes. But yeah he is only human right.
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RY4N37 3/8/2015 12:05pm
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You said the team he's riding for was scrambled from 'factory Japan' and other personnell from other Kawi teams around Europe. And that Ryans team didn't...
You said the team he's riding for was scrambled from 'factory Japan' and other personnell from other Kawi teams around Europe. And that Ryans team didn't exist last season. Which is completely wrong. There are 2 new additions to the team, that's it. The team has been running for years without major changes.
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BY factory Japan not from. I know for a fact Tylas mechanic was at budds racing not to long ago. And there is not two new...
BY factory Japan not from. I know for a fact Tylas mechanic was at budds racing not to long ago. And there is not two new additions there is more behind the scenes with people you dont have a clue aobut except your little google page. Do you know anything within the industry. Do you know any riders personal i dont spend more time to argue with you.
2, 5, 10 new people. It's still the same team. The people at the top are the same
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philG 3/8/2015 12:09pm
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When was the last time you worked in the GP paddock ??

'i know people within the industry'..... give me fucking strength.
mikebrownsound wrote:
Done with you. Random britt. we getting a bit of topic in the end and will keep argue. So have a nice day.
i take it you havent then.... you see i like it when people assume that they are the only people that know people , when they really arent , it kinda makes me laugh.

mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:13pm
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2, 5, 10 new people. It's still the same team. The people at the top are the same
Its still new for Ryan and that exact KRT monster team was made up from scratch was it 3-4 years ago? But ofc Factory kawasaki been in europe since idk what did he say 90is ? But Ryan still adapting to a brand new team from scratch. Well done with the team talk im more interesting in why plenty of brits dosent like the fact that america belives Ryan is better, cause ive seen plenty of brits trash talking RV and ofc vise versa wich is sad.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:16pm
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i take it you havent then.... you see i like it when people assume that they are the only people that know people , when they...
i take it you havent then.... you see i like it when people assume that they are the only people that know people , when they really arent , it kinda makes me laugh.

Ill post a private message to you and i can tell you more, dont really want to express myself here and who i am and wich people i know cause we getting of topic.
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RY4N37 3/8/2015 12:18pm
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2, 5, 10 new people. It's still the same team. The people at the top are the same
mikebrownsound wrote:
Its still new for Ryan and that exact KRT monster team was made up from scratch was it 3-4 years ago? But ofc Factory kawasaki been...
Its still new for Ryan and that exact KRT monster team was made up from scratch was it 3-4 years ago? But ofc Factory kawasaki been in europe since idk what did he say 90is ? But Ryan still adapting to a brand new team from scratch. Well done with the team talk im more interesting in why plenty of brits dosent like the fact that america belives Ryan is better, cause ive seen plenty of brits trash talking RV and ofc vise versa wich is sad.
I don't know why that is. Probably because of hearing that European riders are inferior for years, people want to see them prove a point against the best America has
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:23pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
I don't know why that is. Probably because of hearing that European riders are inferior for years, people want to see them prove a point against...
I don't know why that is. Probably because of hearing that European riders are inferior for years, people want to see them prove a point against the best America has
Nothing wrong with the european riders. Desalle came to Unadilla in 2010 and was ahead of pretty much the whole field except dungey? Its ridicolous. But i do believe supercross makes the US riders technique better. And the gap is closer now than it was when RC and James was on their top. But i dont find any excuses USA got the most MXDN trophees and history dont lie, but today you see more Europeans comes over to USA and for me the two series are just different but in the end it seems like everyone wants it to be USA against the world. I hope more top guns riders from merica choose to do the same deal as RV just to mix it up in the gp´ it makes it spicy.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:28pm
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Since you are from the uk where did molson kawasaki go?



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akillerwombat 3/8/2015 12:31pm
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Everyone is saying Villopoto couldn't keep the pace in moto 2, I'm not saying its the case, but it looks pretty similar to approach he has had to racing the last few years. Get out front and dominate OR settle for a top three and just look forward to the next race. Fairly confident if he really wanted to push it, he could have.
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:36pm
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Everyone is saying Villopoto couldn't keep the pace in moto 2, I'm not saying its the case, but it looks pretty similar to approach he has...
Everyone is saying Villopoto couldn't keep the pace in moto 2, I'm not saying its the case, but it looks pretty similar to approach he has had to racing the last few years. Get out front and dominate OR settle for a top three and just look forward to the next race. Fairly confident if he really wanted to push it, he could have.
Long term , points the most important. And i agree. But i think the heat did bring them all to their knees. RV said something about fatigue?

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RY4N37 3/8/2015 12:37pm
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Everyone is saying Villopoto couldn't keep the pace in moto 2, I'm not saying its the case, but it looks pretty similar to approach he has...
Everyone is saying Villopoto couldn't keep the pace in moto 2, I'm not saying its the case, but it looks pretty similar to approach he has had to racing the last few years. Get out front and dominate OR settle for a top three and just look forward to the next race. Fairly confident if he really wanted to push it, he could have.
But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto having got into 3rd so early on, but I think Cairoli and Desalle really upped their pace and we're too fast in that second race. RV probably realised about half distance that he couldn't catch them so settled for 3rd
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RY4N37 wrote:
I don't know why that is. Probably because of hearing that European riders are inferior for years, people want to see them prove a point against...
I don't know why that is. Probably because of hearing that European riders are inferior for years, people want to see them prove a point against the best America has
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Nothing wrong with the european riders. Desalle came to Unadilla in 2010 and was ahead of pretty much the whole field except dungey? Its ridicolous. But...
Nothing wrong with the european riders. Desalle came to Unadilla in 2010 and was ahead of pretty much the whole field except dungey? Its ridicolous. But i do believe supercross makes the US riders technique better. And the gap is closer now than it was when RC and James was on their top. But i dont find any excuses USA got the most MXDN trophees and history dont lie, but today you see more Europeans comes over to USA and for me the two series are just different but in the end it seems like everyone wants it to be USA against the world. I hope more top guns riders from merica choose to do the same deal as RV just to mix it up in the gp´ it makes it spicy.
This whole Europe vs Usa thing is pretty funny. We all know Villopoto and Cairoli are among the top athletes in this sport. If Cairoli would be born it the USA, he would still be a top mx racer. Same with Villopoto if he would be from this country called Europe. We're talking about few top athletes in MX, this really has nothing to do where you're born in...

Changing the team is pretty minor excuse for anything. That happens, riders change teams, Villopoto is not the only one. Some perform the same way right after the change, some don't.

Huge props to Villopoto for giving GP's a go. Makes it a ton more interesting!
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akillerwombat 3/8/2015 12:45pm
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RY4N37 wrote:
But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto...
But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto having got into 3rd so early on, but I think Cairoli and Desalle really upped their pace and we're too fast in that second race. RV probably realised about half distance that he couldn't catch them so settled for 3rd
Points are extremely important (of course) but there are what 17 races left and he is 18 points behind?

I may be wrong but I feel like this is exactly what Villopoto has done his last few years early on in the US. The dude doesn't go balls out early any more and has taken a much more championship approach.
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TMV 3/8/2015 12:46pm
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mikebrownsound wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83022/s1200_gagasgas.jpg[/img] Showa did even send in extra people but i guess they dosent count.


Showa did even send in extra people but i guess they dosent count.
Why would Showa send the Kayaba guys from last year?
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:49pm
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But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto...
But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto having got into 3rd so early on, but I think Cairoli and Desalle really upped their pace and we're too fast in that second race. RV probably realised about half distance that he couldn't catch them so settled for 3rd
I honestly think it was the heat and also the length of the moto to be able to catch up was to short. If he started outfront i dont think he would have let neither Clement and AC pass him but that is just speculation, a third is respectable and still overall of the day wich is decent.
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philG 3/8/2015 12:50pm
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Since you are from the uk where did molson kawasaki go? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/08/83025/s1200_Gareth_Swanepol_250F.jpg[/img]
Since you are from the uk where did molson kawasaki go?



Molson Kawasaki was UK based Kawasaki GP team owned by Mike Church , and run by his daughter Lisa(i think)... they ran Tommy Searle amongst others and were the official MX2 team in GP's for a while , but i think the economy tanking hit the earthmoving business, and they wernt getting enough support from outside to keep it viable...also Lisa married Josh Coppins , and they went back to NZ after he retired , so they decided to fold the team rather than carry on.. a shame , a good family team , and obviously Tom Church was a GP rider in his own right as well..

Thats the gist as i recall it , someone may add detail to that
mikebrownsound 3/8/2015 12:51pm
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Why would Showa send the Kayaba guys from last year?
Ehm what? sry i dont understand that answer. Smile
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RY4N37 3/8/2015 12:53pm
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But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto...
But why would you take that approach if you were down on points? I think he would've wanted and probably expected to win the second moto having got into 3rd so early on, but I think Cairoli and Desalle really upped their pace and we're too fast in that second race. RV probably realised about half distance that he couldn't catch them so settled for 3rd
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Points are extremely important (of course) but there are what 17 races left and he is 18 points behind? I may be wrong but I feel...
Points are extremely important (of course) but there are what 17 races left and he is 18 points behind?

I may be wrong but I feel like this is exactly what Villopoto has done his last few years early on in the US. The dude doesn't go balls out early any more and has taken a much more championship approach.
You maybe right. But I feel that's the kind of thing you do on your off days. This was a weekend where RV was pretty dominant in the most part, so I'm sure the thinking would've been, get 50 points here, because when we get to a track that doesn't suit me it's going to be more difficult. I'm not buying that as soon as he got into 3rd he just settled for it. Those guys were only a couple of seconds of front of them and RV had been faster than them all weekend. AC and Desalle upped their game second moto and RV had to concede and settle for the overall. No shame in that at all
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Molson Kawasaki was UK based Kawasaki GP team owned by Mike Church , and run by his daughter Lisa(i think)... they ran Tommy Searle amongst others...
Molson Kawasaki was UK based Kawasaki GP team owned by Mike Church , and run by his daughter Lisa(i think)... they ran Tommy Searle amongst others and were the official MX2 team in GP's for a while , but i think the economy tanking hit the earthmoving business, and they wernt getting enough support from outside to keep it viable...also Lisa married Josh Coppins , and they went back to NZ after he retired , so they decided to fold the team rather than carry on.. a shame , a good family team , and obviously Tom Church was a GP rider in his own right as well..

Thats the gist as i recall it , someone may add detail to that
Sounds similar to the deal Sean hamblin had with that Suzuki swift team back in 08 they had root from england to?
To bad i thought their bikes were bad ass at Molsons.



mattktmhall 3/8/2015 1:03pm
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Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a...
Ryans team is a factory team scrambled by factory Japan to make it happend. They took personal from different roles within kawasaki europe and made a team of it.

Kawsaki japan decides wich team or people they want to give out their equipment to. Ryans team didnt exist last year, some of the personal was in other kawi teams.
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The Krt Kawasaki team has been around for years
Where the hell do you get you're incorrect info from haha
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RY4N37 wrote:
2, 5, 10 new people. It's still the same team. The people at the top are the same
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Its still new for Ryan and that exact KRT monster team was made up from scratch was it 3-4 years ago? But ofc Factory kawasaki been...
Its still new for Ryan and that exact KRT monster team was made up from scratch was it 3-4 years ago? But ofc Factory kawasaki been in europe since idk what did he say 90is ? But Ryan still adapting to a brand new team from scratch. Well done with the team talk im more interesting in why plenty of brits dosent like the fact that america belives Ryan is better, cause ive seen plenty of brits trash talking RV and ofc vise versa wich is sad.
François runs a very tight respectable team and if it has "new personnel' they are there for a specific reason he pinpointed. Let's hope the Tyla/RV doesn't end on a sour note and he has nightmares about parting ways with Paulin.There are many more "New" teams competing this year than just the KRT team if we use your interpretation of "New".
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This whole Europe vs Usa thing is pretty funny. We all know Villopoto and Cairoli are among the top athletes in this sport. If Cairoli would...
This whole Europe vs Usa thing is pretty funny. We all know Villopoto and Cairoli are among the top athletes in this sport. If Cairoli would be born it the USA, he would still be a top mx racer. Same with Villopoto if he would be from this country called Europe. We're talking about few top athletes in MX, this really has nothing to do where you're born in...

Changing the team is pretty minor excuse for anything. That happens, riders change teams, Villopoto is not the only one. Some perform the same way right after the change, some don't.

Huge props to Villopoto for giving GP's a go. Makes it a ton more interesting!
Yeah well Roczen and Musquin is doing the same thing leaving comfy homesoil to race over the pond. But i think its easier to adapt to USA than going to europe and all these different countries and cultures But Ryan is a champ he knows what to do and Monster and everyone is backing him up big time so he be fine. Yeah it does it felt like cairoli was to dominant in the past years but now he have to step up his game cause RV will bring some heat. The true test for Ryan will be the sand wich AC is phenomal at.

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