Video: Jeffrey Herlings in preparation for Qatar 2015

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Ive seen other videos of this dude I think he has what it takes to be the best in the world, hes like 2 years younger...
Ive seen other videos of this dude I think he has what it takes to be the best in the world, hes like 2 years younger than Roczen? I saw a race him and Rozcen battling for like 20mins in the GP's in 2011 some incredible stuff.
They're both born in 1994... Roczen in April? Herlings later in the year...
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Crush wrote:
They're both born in 1994... Roczen in April? Herlings later in the year...
Yer good Crusher!

KR: 29 April 1994
JH: 12 Sept 1994
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Crush wrote:
They're both born in 1994... Roczen in April? Herlings later in the year...
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Yer good Crusher!

KR: 29 April 1994
JH: 12 Sept 1994
Yep and Roczen kicked his ass. Much respect for Roczen, he kicked sand bagger Herlings arse, as the Brits put it....
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I used wiki to find those dates and on Kenny's page this little fact stood out:

Bike number: 94, 1

Gonna be rad seeing the #1 plate this summer. (even though im sure Kenny would rather run his usual 94)

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machine 2/12/2015 6:25pm
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Ok...who's freakin sick of Euros an their damn sand tracks.. they hang their hats on...please like...Smile
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Funny how Herlings "the sand bagger" folds like a cheap suit with some REAL competition...
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Crush wrote:
They're both born in 1994... Roczen in April? Herlings later in the year...
ocscottie wrote:
Yer good Crusher!

KR: 29 April 1994
JH: 12 Sept 1994
I try OC
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why you are so proud of your flat and easy tracks? and of easy champions?
Titan1 wrote:
A track doesn't have to be a rocky hard packed dust bowl, or sand track with no facilities or amenities to be hard. It is possible...
A track doesn't have to be a rocky hard packed dust bowl, or sand track with no facilities or amenities to be hard. It is possible to have hard, technical track that is also watered, groomed occasionally and kept up, with nice facilities and amenities, which is the case with the American tracks.
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that national in Utah is a joke, that's not a Motocross track, hell we only have one motocross track on the schedule. Unadilla We are the...
that national in Utah is a joke, that's not a Motocross track, hell we only have one motocross track on the schedule. Unadilla
We are the best in the world @ outdoor supercross. Can't believe what happened to my beloved High point, don't even
recognize it anymore. Hell, raced the first race ever in 1977. Euros layed that NATURAL track out.
So Millville doesn't count as a real motocross track? Glen Helen, Muddy Creek? Budds Creek, RedBud? Washougal? IronMan? Really?

The only "not real" (whatever the fuck that means) tracks on the US schedule are Utah (which has the highest lap time differential in the series) and High Point, which still has plenty of elevation IMO.
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Damn.. I've got a zit on my forehead that would qualify a jump on this track. How can you Euro's talk trash about our tracks when...
Damn.. I've got a zit on my forehead that would qualify a jump on this track. How can you Euro's talk trash about our tracks when your poster boy is doing a supermoto in Spain?
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So how is it finally hitting puberty?
karsmakers wrote:
I'm actually 50 years old but still producing a lot of testosterone....since I'm a red-white and blue blooded American. As you know....it's been proven that a...
I'm actually 50 years old but still producing a lot of testosterone....since I'm a red-white and blue blooded American. As you know....it's been proven that a single step on the "land of the free" will increase your manhood !
Funny coming from a guy called "karsmakers" which is about as dutch as they come. Wink
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karsmakers wrote:
Damn.. I've got a zit on my forehead that would qualify a jump on this track. How can you Euro's talk trash about our tracks when...
Damn.. I've got a zit on my forehead that would qualify a jump on this track. How can you Euro's talk trash about our tracks when your poster boy is doing a supermoto in Spain?
Olson wrote:
So how is it finally hitting puberty?
karsmakers wrote:
I'm actually 50 years old but still producing a lot of testosterone....since I'm a red-white and blue blooded American. As you know....it's been proven that a...
I'm actually 50 years old but still producing a lot of testosterone....since I'm a red-white and blue blooded American. As you know....it's been proven that a single step on the "land of the free" will increase your manhood !
Funny coming from a guy called "karsmakers" which is about as dutch as they come. Wink
crusty_xx 2/12/2015 10:41pm
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machine wrote:
Funny how Herlings "the sand bagger" folds like a cheap suit with some REAL competition...
GOSH we know he's sandbagging by now...
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Derpin' DJ 2/12/2015 10:54pm
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machine wrote:
Funny how Herlings "the sand bagger" folds like a cheap suit with some REAL competition...
Example?
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machine wrote:
Funny how Herlings "the sand bagger" folds like a cheap suit with some REAL competition...
Derpin' DJ wrote:
Example?
There is no example for that....... That being said after his absolute dominance for years in a row in MX2 he should be racing MX1 against the big big dogs like AC and RV.
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machine wrote:
Funny how Herlings "the sand bagger" folds like a cheap suit with some REAL competition...
Derpin' DJ wrote:
Example?
I think he means all those MXDN races he participated at.
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TMV 2/12/2015 11:40pm
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Yep and Roczen kicked his ass. Much respect for Roczen, he kicked sand bagger Herlings arse, as the Brits put it....
Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would probably have him covered. They were pretty even at that time. But hey, just speculations...

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machine wrote:
Yep and Roczen kicked his ass. Much respect for Roczen, he kicked sand bagger Herlings arse, as the Brits put it....
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Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would...
Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would probably have him covered. They were pretty even at that time. But hey, just speculations...
They were not even at the time Roczen had many more wins and threw away a couple more wins that season, he wrapped up the title so soon that he raced a 125 at the last round....... BOSS! Also Roczen immediately excelled at SX JH did not! Of course like you its all IMO! Bench racing is almost better than real racing lol.
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The most annoying thing is that I think Herlings would absolutely kill it if he moved to MX1, but whilst he stays in MX2 people are always going to call him a sand bagger. IMO he's not the same rider who Roczen beat 4 years ago, back then he was just an excellent sand rider, now he's transferred that speed across all surfaces and is really the complete package. Also, I don't think staying in MX2 was entirely his decision
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wow123 2/13/2015 12:14am
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Crush wrote:
2 things.

That dirt looks horrible but the layout is amazing!

And is he still growing? Looks pretty big on that bike!
Olson wrote:
It's Spain. All their tracks are pretty much dried cement.
i prefer wet cement tracks, lots of traction but difficult clean up, Silly

hope to meet you in few weeks in nakhon pathom

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The most annoying thing is that I think Herlings would absolutely kill it if he moved to MX1, but whilst he stays in MX2 people are...
The most annoying thing is that I think Herlings would absolutely kill it if he moved to MX1, but whilst he stays in MX2 people are always going to call him a sand bagger. IMO he's not the same rider who Roczen beat 4 years ago, back then he was just an excellent sand rider, now he's transferred that speed across all surfaces and is really the complete package. Also, I don't think staying in MX2 was entirely his decision
Negative AC and RV race the MX1 class, that's a whole another bitch when you have to deal with two MEGA STARS.
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machine wrote:
Yep and Roczen kicked his ass. Much respect for Roczen, he kicked sand bagger Herlings arse, as the Brits put it....
TMV wrote:
Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would...
Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would probably have him covered. They were pretty even at that time. But hey, just speculations...
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They were not even at the time Roczen had many more wins and threw away a couple more wins that season, he wrapped up the title...
They were not even at the time Roczen had many more wins and threw away a couple more wins that season, he wrapped up the title so soon that he raced a 125 at the last round....... BOSS! Also Roczen immediately excelled at SX JH did not! Of course like you its all IMO! Bench racing is almost better than real racing lol.
Still numbers, lol, points make champions, not victories (see Dungey) and that wasn't so soon. Jeffrey gave Ken headaches and he was coming back from injury (missed the last three races due to shoulder injury in 2010, his rookie year). Not bad for a second year in MX2. Herlings made some pretty rookie mistakes that year. To much of ego, impatience etc...



Concerning SX, I suck at skateboarding but i don't give a sh... about it and don't practice so you know.
Roczen had a SX track in his garden. His goal has always been to come and race in the USA where you have to be good at both MX and SX if you want a ride.
I think Herlings is a little like Cairoli. He says he would like to but not sure he will ever come to do an entire season. I just hope he won't do the same as Tony which means not even race once.
But talent wise if he could crush any of your current MX2 AMA guys on any motocross track (still my opinion, lol) and your guys rule at SX, there's no reason he wouldn't be good with practice.
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RY4N37 2/13/2015 12:26am
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Park Boys wrote:
Negative AC and RV race the MX1 class, that's a whole another bitch when you have to deal with two MEGA STARS.
Herlings is good enough to win in MX1 IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think some people underestimate him.
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Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would...
Yeah and Musquin kicked both their asses, lol! Doesn't mean anything. I'm a Roczen's fan, but to me, if he had stayed another year, Herlings would probably have him covered. They were pretty even at that time. But hey, just speculations...
Park Boys wrote:
They were not even at the time Roczen had many more wins and threw away a couple more wins that season, he wrapped up the title...
They were not even at the time Roczen had many more wins and threw away a couple more wins that season, he wrapped up the title so soon that he raced a 125 at the last round....... BOSS! Also Roczen immediately excelled at SX JH did not! Of course like you its all IMO! Bench racing is almost better than real racing lol.
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Still numbers, lol, points make champions, not victories (see Dungey) and that wasn't so soon. Jeffrey gave Ken headaches and he was coming back from injury...
Still numbers, lol, points make champions, not victories (see Dungey) and that wasn't so soon. Jeffrey gave Ken headaches and he was coming back from injury (missed the last three races due to shoulder injury in 2010, his rookie year). Not bad for a second year in MX2. Herlings made some pretty rookie mistakes that year. To much of ego, impatience etc...



Concerning SX, I suck at skateboarding but i don't give a sh... about it and don't practice so you know.
Roczen had a SX track in his garden. His goal has always been to come and race in the USA where you have to be good at both MX and SX if you want a ride.
I think Herlings is a little like Cairoli. He says he would like to but not sure he will ever come to do an entire season. I just hope he won't do the same as Tony which means not even race once.
But talent wise if he could crush any of your current MX2 AMA guys on any motocross track (still my opinion, lol) and your guys rule at SX, there's no reason he wouldn't be good with practice.
Those two are so close in age that you have to throw the first year shit out. Roczen was the GP golden boy until he went AMA, it is painfully obvious that once he went AMA all of a sudden JH was better. Which in fact is untrue look at the year 2011 Roczen threw the France race away and one of the sand tracks away don't remember which one... He also gave JH the last round victory as Roczen was racing a 125. As far as crushing the AMA guys lets see it, line him up with Martin,Webb and AC if he can get healthy and then talk about how fast he is. I personally believe he is the fastest 250 rider in the world but I think racing in the AMA where guys want to win every weekend instead of placing second would be a whole nother bitch.
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Park Boys wrote:
Negative AC and RV race the MX1 class, that's a whole another bitch when you have to deal with two MEGA STARS.
RY4N37 wrote:
Herlings is good enough to win in MX1 IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think some people underestimate him.
Agreed he would win races, but just like every other mega star sans RC(undisputed greatest of all time period) he would have problems. There is no way he beats AC and RV take that to the bank!
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RY4N37 2/13/2015 12:41am
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Agreed he would win races, but just like every other mega star sans RC(undisputed greatest of all time period) he would have problems. There is no...
Agreed he would win races, but just like every other mega star sans RC(undisputed greatest of all time period) he would have problems. There is no way he beats AC and RV take that to the bank!
I think he could. He's got the speed and he's shown in the past that he has the consistency. We'll never know, it's all speculation. But I think he has it in him to win the MX1 title, if he was coming in to the season fully fit
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Love practice vids like this, simple filming where you can really see the speed (on what is clearly a very tricky surface too). It has to have been tough for him coming back from such a bad injury, you can see he's not quite his old self just yet.
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Those two are so close in age that you have to throw the first year shit out. Roczen was the GP golden boy until he went...
Those two are so close in age that you have to throw the first year shit out. Roczen was the GP golden boy until he went AMA, it is painfully obvious that once he went AMA all of a sudden JH was better. Which in fact is untrue look at the year 2011 Roczen threw the France race away and one of the sand tracks away don't remember which one... He also gave JH the last round victory as Roczen was racing a 125. As far as crushing the AMA guys lets see it, line him up with Martin,Webb and AC if he can get healthy and then talk about how fast he is. I personally believe he is the fastest 250 rider in the world but I think racing in the AMA where guys want to win every weekend instead of placing second would be a whole nother bitch.
True, riding in the USA is no joke intensity wise, he would definitely have to change his habits.

Always loved Roczen, I've always cheered for him and still do. Nothing has changed for me. But as much as I disliked Herlings in 2011, it was clear he was part of that golden riders circle including Poto, Cairoli, Roczen, Dungey, Tomac etc...
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On a sand track, it would be tough, but on a championship, hell, who can beat Poto on a championship? On the paper, raw speed wise, IMO only a healthy and lucky Tomac can...

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