Question about Pro Numbers

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Edited Date/Time 2/9/2015 10:50am
How does it work if someone misses a whole season of racing and scores zero points? Do they keep their number if they have a career number? I was wondering this about James Stewart. Mike Brown scored enough points every season to keep number 3 and as soon as he didn't score enough points, Eli Tomac snatched it up.
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vanillaice782 2/8/2015 9:10am
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Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score a point or two in the nationals so he should be fine.
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GD2 2/8/2015 9:47am
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There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if you don't straight up score 25 (like Mike Brown) you lose the number. Stewart's situation does not count as an injury, so if he doesn't race the last few nationals or just doesn't score at least 25. He SHOULD lose the #7.
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It's like the Apple Cloud. It's a complete mystery.
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GD2 wrote:
There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if...
There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if you don't straight up score 25 (like Mike Brown) you lose the number. Stewart's situation does not count as an injury, so if he doesn't race the last few nationals or just doesn't score at least 25. He SHOULD lose the #7.
I agree. If he doesn't make 25 points it was by his own doing. And as such, should lose his number and have to earn it back!

But that's probably not how it'll work!

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kongols 2/8/2015 10:40am
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GD2 wrote:
There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if...
There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if you don't straight up score 25 (like Mike Brown) you lose the number. Stewart's situation does not count as an injury, so if he doesn't race the last few nationals or just doesn't score at least 25. He SHOULD lose the #7.
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I agree. If he doesn't make 25 points it was by his own doing. And as such, should lose his number and have to earn it...
I agree. If he doesn't make 25 points it was by his own doing. And as such, should lose his number and have to earn it back!

But that's probably not how it'll work!

Shane
Who said he won`t score 25 points? There is strong rumor he`ll race all of AMA Nationals rounds. And even if that`s not true his suspension ends in August with two rounds to go. Perhaps he can pull the rabbit out of the hat and score 25 points in four moto`s.
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vanillaice782 2/8/2015 11:21am
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This is just me but I think it would add to the bad assness of his comeback if he were to have to forfeit his number 7 and run 259.
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kongols 2/8/2015 11:49am
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This is just me but I think it would add to the bad assness of his comeback if he were to have to forfeit his number...
This is just me but I think it would add to the bad assness of his comeback if he were to have to forfeit his number 7 and run 259.
Now I hope he doesn`t do any races this year.Laughing Laughing Laughing
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GD2 wrote:
There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if...
There's an injury policy, so if you don't score 25 because of being injured most of the season then you can keep your number. But if you don't straight up score 25 (like Mike Brown) you lose the number. Stewart's situation does not count as an injury, so if he doesn't race the last few nationals or just doesn't score at least 25. He SHOULD lose the #7.
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I agree. If he doesn't make 25 points it was by his own doing. And as such, should lose his number and have to earn it...
I agree. If he doesn't make 25 points it was by his own doing. And as such, should lose his number and have to earn it back!

But that's probably not how it'll work!

Shane
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Who said he won`t score 25 points? There is strong rumor he`ll race all of AMA Nationals rounds. And even if that`s not true his suspension...
Who said he won`t score 25 points? There is strong rumor he`ll race all of AMA Nationals rounds. And even if that`s not true his suspension ends in August with two rounds to go. Perhaps he can pull the rabbit out of the hat and score 25 points in four moto`s.
He could score 100 points in 4 motos.
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vanillaice782 wrote:
Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score...
Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score a point or two in the nationals so he should be fine.
Make up the rules as they go? When has there ever been a situation like this?
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I'm 99% sure there's a clause that past national champs are allowed a one year exemption against the 25 point rule, whether it be from injury or other reasons they couldn't score the needed points.
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wanglimp 2/8/2015 12:46pm
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I don't know anything about that clause, but if he doesn't score the 25 points and doesn't get to pick the number do you think anyone would be a big enough dick to snatch the number 7 up?
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I don't know anything about that clause, but if he doesn't score the 25 points and doesn't get to pick the number do you think anyone...
I don't know anything about that clause, but if he doesn't score the 25 points and doesn't get to pick the number do you think anyone would be a big enough dick to snatch the number 7 up?
Only a rider that wins a national championship that year can take a single digit number.
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KTMShane699 2/9/2015 7:28am
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kongols wrote:
Who said he won`t score 25 points? There is strong rumor he`ll race all of AMA Nationals rounds. And even if that`s not true his suspension...
Who said he won`t score 25 points? There is strong rumor he`ll race all of AMA Nationals rounds. And even if that`s not true his suspension ends in August with two rounds to go. Perhaps he can pull the rabbit out of the hat and score 25 points in four moto`s.
I never said he wouldn't score them. I said that if he doesn't score them he should lose his number. There is a large difference in the two statements.

And the rumor about him racing all of the outdoor round would end the question of him keeping his number. His suspension isn't over until just before the season ends. So as of now, it's just speculation.

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BRING BACK #259
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This is why I always thought it was a bit 'foolish' to name his clothing line "SEVEN"...Sooner or later he will not have that number anymore...unless he thought that the AMA/FIM would retire it....
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huck wrote:
This is why I always thought it was a bit 'foolish' to name his clothing line "SEVEN"...Sooner or later he will not have that number anymore...unless...
This is why I always thought it was a bit 'foolish' to name his clothing line "SEVEN"...Sooner or later he will not have that number anymore...unless he thought that the AMA/FIM would retire it....
It'll be like Fox/Shift, Seven will have a sister named TWOFIFTYNINE
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vanillaice782 wrote:
Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score...
Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score a point or two in the nationals so he should be fine.
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Make up the rules as they go? When has there ever been a situation like this?
#Blackflaggate

Ha. Kidding. But only a little. And the WADA suspension rules appear as clear as mud as well. But I won't debate too much because I don't really care.
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What about Monster Energy Cup? It's an AMA race but I'm not sure how the points would add up as it's reverse points?

Judging by the AMA's dissatisfaction with the ruling in the first place I would be surprised if they took away his number too.

But does that mean Troy Lee would have to rename Seven MX to TwoFiveNine?
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dsmith 2/9/2015 9:49am
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what ever number he ends up being...he'll just change his clothes name to that number....
Riesenberg448 2/9/2015 10:02am
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I never said he wouldn't score them. I said that if he doesn't score them he should lose his number. There is a large difference in...
I never said he wouldn't score them. I said that if he doesn't score them he should lose his number. There is a large difference in the two statements.

And the rumor about him racing all of the outdoor round would end the question of him keeping his number. His suspension isn't over until just before the season ends. So as of now, it's just speculation.

Shane
Actually, based on the past he SHOULD NOT lose his number.

Ivan Tedesco skipped the ENTIRE 2013 Season, not due to injury, but due to not having a ride. He returned for 2014 and was able to keep the number 9.
Racer X Vault - Ivan Tedesco Results

If you compete and don't score the necessary points (Mike Brown) you forfeit the number.
If you do not compete, you have a 1 year exemption from losing it.

The injury clause has been used by Grant Langston (2009) and Josh Hill (2011) as well.
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timlake wrote:
What about Monster Energy Cup? It's an AMA race but I'm not sure how the points would add up as it's reverse points? Judging by the...
What about Monster Energy Cup? It's an AMA race but I'm not sure how the points would add up as it's reverse points?

Judging by the AMA's dissatisfaction with the ruling in the first place I would be surprised if they took away his number too.

But does that mean Troy Lee would have to rename Seven MX to TwoFiveNine?
It's not an AMA race.
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vanillaice782 wrote:
Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score...
Their policy is the same as it is with most other things. They kind of make up their own rules as they go. James will score a point or two in the nationals so he should be fine.
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Make up the rules as they go? When has there ever been a situation like this?
But MXSports and Feld don't talk to each other. How will Feld know that James scores any points?

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