Starting out making t shirts and selling them online. Could use some feedback

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8/16/2014 4:34pm
Does the focus shirt work as an Adderal replacement?

I wouldn't wear any shirt with eat shit on it.
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8/16/2014 4:35pm
maybe change the grenade to something moto related... you have the spark plug, the sproket...... and a grenade.
Doesnt seem like a good fit for the theme.
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8/16/2014 4:37pm
rawdawgin wrote:
maybe change the grenade to something moto related... you have the spark plug, the sproket...... and a grenade. Doesnt seem like a good fit for the...
maybe change the grenade to something moto related... you have the spark plug, the sproket...... and a grenade.
Doesnt seem like a good fit for the theme.
Maybe they are meant for 4 stroke ownersWhistling

I kid, I kid
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8/16/2014 4:37pm
rawdawgin wrote:
maybe change the grenade to something moto related... you have the spark plug, the sproket...... and a grenade. Doesnt seem like a good fit for the...
maybe change the grenade to something moto related... you have the spark plug, the sproket...... and a grenade.
Doesnt seem like a good fit for the theme.
That's the used 250f shirt man!

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8/16/2014 4:45pm
Cygnus wrote:
That's the used 250f shirt man!
Hahhahah I get it now! Makes more sense. Silly
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8/16/2014 4:47pm
They don't look too bad but, if you want to be super classy consider these words for future projects; piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.
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8/16/2014 4:55pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2014 4:56pm
Grenade is bad for moto, typically someone thinks of grenading your engine into million pieces. It's not a happy thing when this happen to a rider hence negative. On a non serious note, I might have my wife wear the FOCUS shirt when I'm getting a BJ.
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8/16/2014 5:00pm
Moto_Geek wrote:
Grenade is bad for moto, typically someone thinks of grenading your engine into million pieces. It's not a happy thing when this happen to a rider...
Grenade is bad for moto, typically someone thinks of grenading your engine into million pieces. It's not a happy thing when this happen to a rider hence negative. On a non serious note, I might have my wife wear the FOCUS shirt when I'm getting a BJ.
it's that hard to find???




I kid, I kid.....
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8/16/2014 5:14pm
GuyB wrote:
Does the focus shirt work as an Adderal replacement?

I wouldn't wear any shirt with eat shit on it.
How about this one, Gibby? I'll wear it to Dave and Busters for the A1 bash.


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8/16/2014 5:23pm
How about this one, Gibby? I'll wear it to Dave and Busters for the A1 bash. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62530/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
How about this one, Gibby? I'll wear it to Dave and Busters for the A1 bash.


No, I'd like to solve the puzzle.
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8/16/2014 5:42pm
Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of the grenade design. Since zippy asked, I'll re-share the link. Mxshirts.com Thanks to everyone for taking a minute to give me a piece of your mind.

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8/16/2014 5:44pm
Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of...
Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of the grenade design. Since zippy asked, I'll re-share the link. Mxshirts.com Thanks to everyone for taking a minute to give me a piece of your mind.

It's "pin it to win it" just sayin.
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Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of...
Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of the grenade design. Since zippy asked, I'll re-share the link. Mxshirts.com Thanks to everyone for taking a minute to give me a piece of your mind.

Cygnus wrote:
It's "pin it to win it" just sayin.
Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here

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Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of...
Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of the grenade design. Since zippy asked, I'll re-share the link. Mxshirts.com Thanks to everyone for taking a minute to give me a piece of your mind.

Cygnus wrote:
It's "pin it to win it" just sayin.
Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62535/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here

Now your getting there. Wink
8/16/2014 6:27pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2014 6:33pm
I'm no expert, but I think a shirt with your grenade logo on the side would be cool..

Edit: Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to screen print the pin it shirt design with the text "pin it" on a koozie and pass them out for free at the races. It doesn't cost hardly anything and people love free stuff. A buddy of mine used to do that, and people would end up wandering back to him and buying some shirts.
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8/16/2014 6:30pm
All the shirts with the Adobe Illustrator HALFTONES, ditch it. It looks like a afterthought. If not at least warp, skew or something with it. That was the first thing I noticed was the halftone dots.
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8/16/2014 6:35pm
I have a feeling I'm going to get a lot of the same BS but if I can one honest opinion it'll be worth it... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62518/s1200_COMMIT_BLUE.jpg[/img]...
I have a feeling I'm going to get a lot of the same BS but if I can one honest opinion it'll be worth it...












These aren't going to sell ... Well maybe Walmart.

Question is what do you look like? Sexy sells....
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8/16/2014 7:10pm
I'm no expert, but I think a shirt with your grenade logo on the side would be cool.. Edit: Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea...
I'm no expert, but I think a shirt with your grenade logo on the side would be cool..

Edit: Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to screen print the pin it shirt design with the text "pin it" on a koozie and pass them out for free at the races. It doesn't cost hardly anything and people love free stuff. A buddy of mine used to do that, and people would end up wandering back to him and buying some shirts.
GOLD! That might just happen. Your buddy doesn't have a website I could check out does he, I'd love to see someone else's work other than, you know fox etc.
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8/16/2014 8:11pm
oshow wrote:
These aren't going to sell ... Well maybe Walmart.

Question is what do you look like? Sexy sells....


Don't you think your girlfriend will get mad...
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Any instagram or twitter of the rider?
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8/16/2014 9:21pm
oshow wrote:
These aren't going to sell ... Well maybe Walmart.

Question is what do you look like? Sexy sells....
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62542/s1200_2111209403_84c6c29a79.jpg[/img] Don't you think your girlfriend will get mad...


Don't you think your girlfriend will get mad...
If I wore one of those shirts she would...

But good luck, you will need it.
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8/16/2014 9:48pm
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62542/s1200_2111209403_84c6c29a79.jpg[/img] Don't you think your girlfriend will get mad...


Don't you think your girlfriend will get mad...
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8/16/2014 9:59pm
Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a lot. I'm not to huge on the grenade shirts, but the Grip it and Rip and the Commit or eat shit shirts are pretty cool! Good luck with the project, hopefully it works out so the idiots on here can eat their words.
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8/16/2014 10:01pm
Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62535/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here

An honest question, can you use Barcia, and the alpinestar logo on the boot without getting into trouble? Or did you already cover yourself there.....?
8/16/2014 10:15pm
I dont think you own the rights to those photos you use on your shirts. And you can still see brand logos like Shift in one of them
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8/16/2014 10:23pm
cody331 wrote:
An honest question, can you use Barcia, and the alpinestar logo on the boot without getting into trouble? Or did you already cover yourself there.....?
No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would be no identification or logos . we've talked about that in detail before.
8/17/2014 1:36am Edited Date/Time 8/17/2014 1:46am
I still haven't decided if we are being trolled or not... these designs are just so uninspired that it is hard to believe that someone would sit down and say "now YES these will SELL!"

I do applaud the person for the effort, because that is what most people lack. But just take a look at some of the casual wear of a lot of the different gear companies make... ONE is a good example (although IMHO not so much recently, same with SPY). They have some really tight designs, but do you think they are just moving massive volume of casual wear? I'd be inclined to say no, it only supplements their gear business. I'm willing to bet that TLD moves the most casual wear aside from FOX, and comparing those two there is no doubt who has better stuff (TLD).

Your boyfriend has to ask him self what his designs are providing that aren't already out there by a hundred different companies. These just blend in with all of the other designs out there. I sometimes see adverts in RacerX for some casual wear companies or yet another mom and pop graphics company, and I wonder how they decided it was a good idea to go whole hog and invest that much resource.

Go back to some magazines from the 90s and early 2000s and look at the casual wear adverts from Xtreme gear... these quasi-motivational poster designs have already been done, failed, and disappeared rom the market a couple times over.

And lastly, since you asked for constructive criticism...

-The halftone dots MUST go.
-Every single font used in every one of these designs is cliche, doesn't fit with any aspect of the design, and no doubt came from a free font website. Tell your BF to delete 99% of his fonts... he should be able to get by with no more than 30 or 40 on his computer, and even them he won't use most of those.
-If he plans on selling this stuff, and from the looks of that website he is, he needs to clean up his artwork a lot more. For example, those grips on he Grip It shirt... he obviously just went to Blending Options>Stroke and dropped in an outline to the grips after he had used the magic wand and eraser tool to cut them out of the design. Then duplicated a layer and rotated it a bit. I can tell because the same bits of carelessness appear on both grips.
-Composition Composition Composition! Where am I supposed to look, where do you want my eye to go?
-Color Values. On the Grip It shirt, the backgrund is a very hard black, while the image he wants us to look at, the Grips, are a washed-out medium intensity half valued grey. It does not balance at all.

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8/17/2014 2:10am
Ok, I'm not going to really go into your shirt designs and such. But I will tell you this. (I'm starting my own clothing line also).. Do your research and have a gameplan of attack, because this field is full of three things... 1. everybody and there mom thinks they can make some shirts and they will sell. 2. Most people do not know there target market.
3. Word to mouth marketing only goes so far, even for the small starters on the block.

I'm still learning soo much about marketing/design. I'm Atleast 2 -3 months out before I give it a hard attempt again
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8/17/2014 4:31am
The focus shirt is really good. The grenades I don't get.....but I'm getting old. All of them seem to have a nice design to them, I guess they r more for the younger crew which us the way to yo to be attractive to moto heads. Keep trying ....he seems to be off to a good start in a tough business

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