JS7 out for Unadilla - Already posted?

gsxrcr28 wrote:

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The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times.

But hey it's free

gsxrcr28 wrote:

X2


The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times.

But hey it's free

GrapeApe wrote:

I really don't think you understand that you are just as much part of the problem as jeffro. If you could somehow refrain from responding to...

I really don't think you understand that you are just as much part of the problem as jeffro. If you could somehow refrain from responding to every single post of every single poster that has something to say about JS7 that is not cheerful and positive, guys like jeffro wouldn't be getting so bent. People are going to have differing opinions and views, and that's okay. Maybe if you could learn to be more accepting of others' views, and jeffro got laid or something, the rest of us wouldn't have to witness you two wankers in every JS7 thread.

"The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times"

gsxrcr28 wrote:

X2


The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times.

But hey it's free

GrapeApe wrote:

I really don't think you understand that you are just as much part of the problem as jeffro. If you could somehow refrain from responding to...

I really don't think you understand that you are just as much part of the problem as jeffro. If you could somehow refrain from responding to every single post of every single poster that has something to say about JS7 that is not cheerful and positive, guys like jeffro wouldn't be getting so bent. People are going to have differing opinions and views, and that's okay. Maybe if you could learn to be more accepting of others' views, and jeffro got laid or something, the rest of us wouldn't have to witness you two wankers in every JS7 thread.

"The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times"

gsxrcr28 wrote:

X2


The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times.

But hey it's free

GrapeApe wrote:

I really don't think you understand that you are just as much part of the problem as jeffro. If you could somehow refrain from responding to...

I really don't think you understand that you are just as much part of the problem as jeffro. If you could somehow refrain from responding to every single post of every single poster that has something to say about JS7 that is not cheerful and positive, guys like jeffro wouldn't be getting so bent. People are going to have differing opinions and views, and that's okay. Maybe if you could learn to be more accepting of others' views, and jeffro got laid or something, the rest of us wouldn't have to witness you two wankers in every JS7 thread.

"The hypocrisy here is mind boggling at times"

gsxrcr28 wrote:

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career. Second calling riders pussies that...

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career.

Second calling riders pussies that have done nothing to you except entertain you for many years is being a shitty fan. To me those fans are a black eye on the sport that I have loved and been involved in since 1976.

davistld01 wrote:

The whole time this JS7 debacle has been going on...and with thread after thread of "hang him high" posts from those who are obviously Stewart-haters for...

The whole time this JS7 debacle has been going on...and with thread after thread of "hang him high" posts from those who are obviously Stewart-haters for one reason or another, or are just too straight-line rulebook oriented to allow any flexibility or grace in a situation...

I've wondered on more than one ocassion...what if it was RV? What if it was Reed? What if it was Roczen? What if it was Dungey or (shudder) Canard? What if it was one of the young bucks like Wilson or Baggett? Those guys aren't as polarizing a figure as Stewart by a long shot. Would the sheer number of hater posts go down? Would there be more grace given to those guys if they found themselves in the same situation as James is in now? My guess...is "yes" to both those questions, personally.

None of us here have ever walked in Stewarts boots. None of us ever will. If any here have ever done anything maliciously (which I don't think this was), or even by someone else dropping the ball and acting irresponsibly (which I do think this amounts to) that resulted in any of us having to endure the ridicule and judgement that this is bringing...I hope that there will be more grace given and hoped for by a larger number of the people abroad. Some of you who call yourself "moto-fans" are the ones kicking this young man in the gut for this, such a small altercation...even before you hear any of the facts. Pretty classless if you ask me.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career. Second calling riders pussies that...

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career.

Second calling riders pussies that have done nothing to you except entertain you for many years is being a shitty fan. To me those fans are a black eye on the sport that I have loved and been involved in since 1976.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career. Second calling riders pussies that...

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career.

Second calling riders pussies that have done nothing to you except entertain you for many years is being a shitty fan. To me those fans are a black eye on the sport that I have loved and been involved in since 1976.

GrapeApe wrote:

Yes, you've made your opinion very clear. Move on. Or, admit you have no more self control that jeffro and keep carpet bombing these threads with...

Yes, you've made your opinion very clear. Move on. Or, admit you have no more self control that jeffro and keep carpet bombing these threads with the same post over and over again.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career. Second calling riders pussies that...

First off, you're exaggerating. I typically only respond to the members that trash a certain rider for their entire posting career.

Second calling riders pussies that have done nothing to you except entertain you for many years is being a shitty fan. To me those fans are a black eye on the sport that I have loved and been involved in since 1976.

GrapeApe wrote:

Yes, you've made your opinion very clear. Move on. Or, admit you have no more self control that jeffro and keep carpet bombing these threads with...

Yes, you've made your opinion very clear. Move on. Or, admit you have no more self control that jeffro and keep carpet bombing these threads with the same post over and over again.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

I have no more self control than Jeffro.

2thefront wrote:

Personally I don't want a union being able to get involved in drug testing. It just makes it easier to get away with stuff. Look at...

Personally I don't want a union being able to get involved in drug testing. It just makes it easier to get away with stuff. Look at Ryan Braun in baseball. Dude tested positive for testosterone and was supported by the union in an appeal where he basically destroyed the character of a man to try and cover up his cheating. Then in the nfl they can't even disclose the PED that was tested positive for because of the union. This leads to every player that fails a test saying it was for prescribed adderall because it doesn't look as bad as testosterone. They can't even get the blood testing for hgh started in the nfl because of the union.

Basically, if you're interested in having as clean of a sport as possible, there can't be a union involved. Other than drug testing though, I think a union would be great.

Hut wrote:

So to hell with privacy as long as you get know all the gory details?

2thefront wrote:

What privacy are you talking about? Disclosing the drug positive for? What good is testing if the athlete is allowed to save face by saying he...

What privacy are you talking about? Disclosing the drug positive for? What good is testing if the athlete is allowed to save face by saying he was positive for a "lesser" drug? If you're cool with having your name in lights, get your name yelled in the crowd and soak up the adoration of fans then you should also be able to handle the transparency when you make the decision to cheat and get caught.

jeffro503 wrote:

Hey Chump.......go fuck yourself. Just when you come across as being cool one day....the very next day you become an intolerable little cunt. In fact most...

Hey Chump.......go fuck yourself. Just when you come across as being cool one day....the very next day you become an intolerable little cunt. In fact most days you are.

Do yourself a favor and finally remove that big dick from your lips.

jeffro503 wrote:

I've trashed James his entire career? LMFAO! You're saying that I've been hammering on James since this whole PED's thing happened? Please show me where I've...

I've trashed James his entire career? LMFAO! You're saying that I've been hammering on James since this whole PED's thing happened? Please show me where I've said anything negative towards James.

I've even stated that I thought if the Adderal made him ride safer , and got him across the finish line in one piece....I had hoped that he kept taking it. Along with anyone else that may need it.....as long as it's cleared and legal.

I don't want James out of this sport , as I'd like to see him stick around until he's in his 30's as long as he's having fun. I'm frustrated with all the bullshit....plain and simple! And if he " Really is " done after this season.....then I hope to God he puts his big boy pants on and finishes out the season with nothing but 1-1 across the board! To prove a point that the sport needs him!

That isn't going to happen unless he gets his shit together for these last few rounds.

Mick actually understood what I was saying and where I was coming from. And he is a hard core Stewart fan! Some of you others are so blinded by all this bullshit you can't see or think clearly.

Huevos wrote:

Not sure why certain people can get away with saying the dumbest shit I've ever read simply because they're frequent posters. When these nut huggers protect...

Not sure why certain people can get away with saying the dumbest shit I've ever read simply because they're frequent posters. When these nut huggers protect and defend RV without question and turn around and absolutely crucify James Stewart for the same crap, it really blows my mind. Not defending James, but seriously none of us have any idea what's going on and he very well may be done for good, which is a damn shame. I wouldn't want to be one of these "fans" that is dragging one of the most iconic racers ever under the bus and beating the absolute shit out of him when he's down.

Lots of internet tough guys on here that I think are absolute pussies in real life for the way they lash out like toddlers on temper tantrums. News flash: your opinion is as insignificant as mine.

mxb2 wrote:

lmao, you call vital posters pussies and tough guys while you type, behind a keyboard ! Now who is the tough guy?

davistld01 wrote:

The whole time this JS7 debacle has been going on...and with thread after thread of "hang him high" posts from those who are obviously Stewart-haters for...

The whole time this JS7 debacle has been going on...and with thread after thread of "hang him high" posts from those who are obviously Stewart-haters for one reason or another, or are just too straight-line rulebook oriented to allow any flexibility or grace in a situation...

I've wondered on more than one ocassion...what if it was RV? What if it was Reed? What if it was Roczen? What if it was Dungey or (shudder) Canard? What if it was one of the young bucks like Wilson or Baggett? Those guys aren't as polarizing a figure as Stewart by a long shot. Would the sheer number of hater posts go down? Would there be more grace given to those guys if they found themselves in the same situation as James is in now? My guess...is "yes" to both those questions, personally.

None of us here have ever walked in Stewarts boots. None of us ever will. If any here have ever done anything maliciously (which I don't think this was), or even by someone else dropping the ball and acting irresponsibly (which I do think this amounts to) that resulted in any of us having to endure the ridicule and judgement that this is bringing...I hope that there will be more grace given and hoped for by a larger number of the people abroad. Some of you who call yourself "moto-fans" are the ones kicking this young man in the gut for this, such a small altercation...even before you hear any of the facts. Pretty classless if you ask me.

Hut wrote:

So to hell with privacy as long as you get know all the gory details?

2thefront wrote:

What privacy are you talking about? Disclosing the drug positive for? What good is testing if the athlete is allowed to save face by saying he...

What privacy are you talking about? Disclosing the drug positive for? What good is testing if the athlete is allowed to save face by saying he was positive for a "lesser" drug? If you're cool with having your name in lights, get your name yelled in the crowd and soak up the adoration of fans then you should also be able to handle the transparency when you make the decision to cheat and get caught.

Hut wrote:

It is prescribed medication.

davistld01 wrote:

The whole time this JS7 debacle has been going on...and with thread after thread of "hang him high" posts from those who are obviously Stewart-haters for...

The whole time this JS7 debacle has been going on...and with thread after thread of "hang him high" posts from those who are obviously Stewart-haters for one reason or another, or are just too straight-line rulebook oriented to allow any flexibility or grace in a situation...

I've wondered on more than one ocassion...what if it was RV? What if it was Reed? What if it was Roczen? What if it was Dungey or (shudder) Canard? What if it was one of the young bucks like Wilson or Baggett? Those guys aren't as polarizing a figure as Stewart by a long shot. Would the sheer number of hater posts go down? Would there be more grace given to those guys if they found themselves in the same situation as James is in now? My guess...is "yes" to both those questions, personally.

None of us here have ever walked in Stewarts boots. None of us ever will. If any here have ever done anything maliciously (which I don't think this was), or even by someone else dropping the ball and acting irresponsibly (which I do think this amounts to) that resulted in any of us having to endure the ridicule and judgement that this is bringing...I hope that there will be more grace given and hoped for by a larger number of the people abroad. Some of you who call yourself "moto-fans" are the ones kicking this young man in the gut for this, such a small altercation...even before you hear any of the facts. Pretty classless if you ask me.

TDeath21 wrote:

Your point is probably the reason a lot of people are fed up. It seems to ALWAYS be James. He's always the center of controversy. He's...

Your point is probably the reason a lot of people are fed up. It seems to ALWAYS be James. He's always the center of controversy. He's the common denominator in a lot of incidents. He used to be the guy constantly cleaning other people out. He used to be the guy who would land on another rider about once per season. He was the guy who kicked Reed's bike over. He was the guy who got arrested for impersonating a police officer. He is the guy who had the positive drug test. He is the guy at the center of the IV controversy. Not Reed, not Roczen, not Barcia, not Villopoto, not Dungey, not Canard, not Tomac, or any other rider. If it were, people would be a lot more lenient because it would be an isolated incident (Alessi excluded, he is the only one that would get flamed as much as James). You can't constantly screw up and expect for people to keep defending you. That goes for everything and everyone in life, not just him. The more popular you are, the more glory you get when you're doing great and the more hate you get when you screw up. It's the same for everyone in every sport.

Sully22 wrote:

Just read these 4 pages....holy shit dude. Some of these meltdowns are of epic proportions. I did get a little chuckle though reading this line from...

Just read these 4 pages....holy shit dude. Some of these meltdowns are of epic proportions.

I did get a little chuckle though reading this line from Webb....It’s been a tough road lately and James hasn’t felt well enough to put in the time on the bike that’s necessary to compete safely. I get that things are tough and they've been difficult for James lately, but this is the multi time champ James, fmotp James, James 'bubba' Stewart, JS freakin 7 James. C'mon Webb, seriously?

Sully22 wrote:

Just read these 4 pages....holy shit dude. Some of these meltdowns are of epic proportions. I did get a little chuckle though reading this line from...

Just read these 4 pages....holy shit dude. Some of these meltdowns are of epic proportions.

I did get a little chuckle though reading this line from Webb....It’s been a tough road lately and James hasn’t felt well enough to put in the time on the bike that’s necessary to compete safely. I get that things are tough and they've been difficult for James lately, but this is the multi time champ James, fmotp James, James 'bubba' Stewart, JS freakin 7 James. C'mon Webb, seriously?

hillbilly wrote:

Shoulda seen the ones that got deleted this morning.

Sully22 wrote:

Just read these 4 pages....holy shit dude. Some of these meltdowns are of epic proportions. I did get a little chuckle though reading this line from...

Just read these 4 pages....holy shit dude. Some of these meltdowns are of epic proportions.

I did get a little chuckle though reading this line from Webb....It’s been a tough road lately and James hasn’t felt well enough to put in the time on the bike that’s necessary to compete safely. I get that things are tough and they've been difficult for James lately, but this is the multi time champ James, fmotp James, James 'bubba' Stewart, JS freakin 7 James. C'mon Webb, seriously?

hillbilly wrote:

Shoulda seen the ones that got deleted this morning.

Sully22 wrote:

Really? That bad huh? There are some in here that I'm kinda shocked didn't get deleted...not to mention they're still posting...smh.

Mr. Info wrote:

James spent around 3 hours at Glen Helen yesterday to see how he felt on the bike. It was decided after that not to race. Its...

James spent around 3 hours at Glen Helen yesterday to see how he felt on the bike. It was decided after that not to race. Its not like he is sitting at home he was out testing the bike setup and how he felt. I think some of us have jobs that if we don't feel right we don't work for the saftey sake. The level these top guys have to race at is not something you go do half assed or you get hurt and could be done forever. Maybe he is thinking more about the future and not just twisting the throttle.

Mr. Info wrote:

James spent around 3 hours at Glen Helen yesterday to see how he felt on the bike. It was decided after that not to race. Its...

James spent around 3 hours at Glen Helen yesterday to see how he felt on the bike. It was decided after that not to race. Its not like he is sitting at home he was out testing the bike setup and how he felt. I think some of us have jobs that if we don't feel right we don't work for the saftey sake. The level these top guys have to race at is not something you go do half assed or you get hurt and could be done forever. Maybe he is thinking more about the future and not just twisting the throttle.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

No, no, no!!
He needs to race no matter what! My entertainment is what's important here, not some riders health.



Sarcasm of coarse.

Mr. Info wrote:

James spent around 3 hours at Glen Helen yesterday to see how he felt on the bike. It was decided after that not to race. Its...

James spent around 3 hours at Glen Helen yesterday to see how he felt on the bike. It was decided after that not to race. Its not like he is sitting at home he was out testing the bike setup and how he felt. I think some of us have jobs that if we don't feel right we don't work for the saftey sake. The level these top guys have to race at is not something you go do half assed or you get hurt and could be done forever. Maybe he is thinking more about the future and not just twisting the throttle.

gsxrcr28 wrote:

No, no, no!!
He needs to race no matter what! My entertainment is what's important here, not some riders health.



Sarcasm of coarse.

davistld01 wrote:

Coarse sarcasm...of course.

TDeath21 wrote:

Your point is probably the reason a lot of people are fed up. It seems to ALWAYS be James. He's always the center of controversy. He's...

Your point is probably the reason a lot of people are fed up. It seems to ALWAYS be James. He's always the center of controversy. He's the common denominator in a lot of incidents. He used to be the guy constantly cleaning other people out. He used to be the guy who would land on another rider about once per season. He was the guy who kicked Reed's bike over. He was the guy who got arrested for impersonating a police officer. He is the guy who had the positive drug test. He is the guy at the center of the IV controversy. Not Reed, not Roczen, not Barcia, not Villopoto, not Dungey, not Canard, not Tomac, or any other rider. If it were, people would be a lot more lenient because it would be an isolated incident (Alessi excluded, he is the only one that would get flamed as much as James). You can't constantly screw up and expect for people to keep defending you. That goes for everything and everyone in life, not just him. The more popular you are, the more glory you get when you're doing great and the more hate you get when you screw up. It's the same for everyone in every sport.

TDeath21 wrote:

Your point is probably the reason a lot of people are fed up. It seems to ALWAYS be James. He's always the center of controversy. He's...

Your point is probably the reason a lot of people are fed up. It seems to ALWAYS be James. He's always the center of controversy. He's the common denominator in a lot of incidents. He used to be the guy constantly cleaning other people out. He used to be the guy who would land on another rider about once per season. He was the guy who kicked Reed's bike over. He was the guy who got arrested for impersonating a police officer. He is the guy who had the positive drug test. He is the guy at the center of the IV controversy. Not Reed, not Roczen, not Barcia, not Villopoto, not Dungey, not Canard, not Tomac, or any other rider. If it were, people would be a lot more lenient because it would be an isolated incident (Alessi excluded, he is the only one that would get flamed as much as James). You can't constantly screw up and expect for people to keep defending you. That goes for everything and everyone in life, not just him. The more popular you are, the more glory you get when you're doing great and the more hate you get when you screw up. It's the same for everyone in every sport.

machine wrote:

This is true...