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I think each bike should have it's own class and maybe even different track's remember each stroke put's it's power to the ground differently. I'm a 2 stroke rider and would rather ride a track shaped by 2 stroke's and I imagine a 4 stroke rider feels the same....
For all you 4 stroke rider's so quick to knock our just cause (bring back the 2 stroke) you might be asking us 2 stroke rider's to sign a petition to save the 4 stroke some day so here's where we as brother's in the dirt stand together or help the power's that be screw us out of the greatest motorized sport man has ever known...It's time all you 4 stroke rider's stand up with us 2 stroke riders and save MX for all of us....Crazy Rooster 125
What you can't do is force a professional organization to sanction a bike the manufacturers don't sell.....it's dollars and cents.
Homogulation is up to the factory...when KTM wanted to race the 350 they damn well made sure to make and stock enough to do it.
What is stopping them from doing that now?
Oh yeah...they don't want to.
You might as well petition Ford to start making the Pinto again.
I remember an article in Cyclenews, Honda had I think it was Reynard testing an experimental 4 stroke of theirs.
What do they call their dual sports, EX's?
Whatever, they had a ton of sensors on it, nobody really knew what it was about ayt the time.
This was right before Yamaha came out with the experimental 400, which they used for the first year
against the 250's, under a new rule that let any manufacturer run anything they wanted, for one year
in AMA Pro.
Now, that rule has been stricken.
No, Honda knew what was coming, Yamaha was right there also, and the rest were caught sleeping.
Heck, Kawasaki and Suzuki even teamed up trying to get a 450motor on the track as quick as they could.
Remember James saying to a reporter, while he was still on a 250, what he needed to beat Ricky?
Kawasaki was taking so long, it was hurting 259, and he knew it.
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You also state who wants to race something you can't make a buck on? What does that mean?
The EPA has never and will never regulate "closed course racing machines" for two reasons. 1 they do not put out enough emissions to even register on anyones list. You cannot produce for this forum any piece of official documentation from the EPA where they are even considering attempting to regulate motocross bikes can you? 2. Can you imagine the EPA putting restrictions on NASCAR, Formula 1, etc???? And you actually thought they would regulate dirt bikes??? Wanna buys some oceanfront property in Arizona?
I only remember a joint 250 effort not a 450.
Regarding your political correctness point, that's a new one for me as it relates to why two strokes went away.
2. If you believe 2 strokes are better bikes, purchase a new one, off the shower on floor from Yamaha or ktusky or tm or beta or gas gas or some Chinese company. They are out there and the only thing that will bring them back to professional racing is a market force, not a petition.
3. Guys are not qualifying for the night show in the 250 class. A 2 stroke won't make them any faster and will make them only marginally richer after every other racing expense is added up.
Feld, like XGames, may get away without the AMA blessing, for a bit.
But why would they want to? Why do you think they constantly mention the FIM?
It adds credibility. It validates the series.
Sure, they could make their own rules, just like DMG did with Roadracing.
Look what happened there.
That series is in shambles.
It never really recovered from when Honda walked on them, because they didn't like the rules.
You don't think Feld see's and remembers that?
As far as making a buck.
Why would Honda continue making an NSR500 2 stroke, and race them, when the EPA made the emissions regs so strict
the 2s could not get licensed for the street guys?
Why go on spending millions of dollars on something you can't sell to the public and get a return on?
Same with the CR, YZ, RM and KX.
They can't sell millions of them, they aren't interested.
As far as closed course bikes, you're right, there are not enough numbers for the EPA, or the manufactures to really care about them. So they make a motor that will pass EPA and kinda meet the needs of a small group of fanatics,
us, but still have a motor that can be made to meet EPA street emissions.
As far as EPA regulating Nascar, and the like, they already have those guys on self imposed fuel limits.
You really think the big 4 are gonna make a relative small number of specialized bikes for a few, that the masses
won't have a need for, and so will not buy?
Face it, racing series as we know them are created and designed to sell bikes for those that build them.
And right now, the 4s, for a few reasons, (I'm not gonna go into the "they make more on parts" thing), are it.
And Rock, Suzuki and Kawasaki were together on the 4 stroke thing, if remember correctly, on both size engines.
If the manufacture's only want to build bike's in massive numbers with no variation from model to model why not just build the most popular selling dirt bike and no other size's.. We can all ride 450 4$ or maybe the bike manufacture's could build the bike's the public want's...What are the number of bike's sold today and when it was 2-stroke's?????????
Some bike manufacture's build a lot of different size machine's and some don't, but all of them want to sell what they have made... Some bike companies sell so much other stuff that bike sale's are a small amount of their overall sale's. Look at Kawasaki heavy industries for an example....2-stroke mx forever....Crazy Rooster125
A little EYE CANDY! who sayz a 125 can't compete!
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