1987 Honda CR250 Project

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barkhard696 6/10/2012 3:50pm
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With my '86 CR250 built as an '85 RC Bailey replica.

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>http://www.klpracing.com/id12.html

Have you guys seen the trick work this guy does?
He puts out some amazing stuff

MaxPower: Yes, I have. In fact I have Karl building me a RC replica swingarm for my '86, it's his first for that year and displacement, so it will be a while.

I intend to revisit the restoration of the '86 at some point, I'm going to add the RC replica swingarm, convert it to an '89 clutchcover, add Allen-head fasteners to the engine, "Honda Racing" clutch and ignition covers, 96 footpegs, electro-chemically remove the pipe coating, etc.

There are a bunch of details on that bike I'll end up changing, the more of the restorations you do or are involved with, the more you realize that the earlier work can be done better.
Donny O'Slow O'Hara 7/15/2012 6:57pm
7/15/2012 6:57pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2012 7:08pm
barkhard696 wrote:
Here it is finished.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done2_240413.jpg[/img]
Here it is finished.
That looks Sweeeet !!!!
I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from ?

Also do you or anyone else know if the 87 tank and shrouds will interchange with the 88 ? I would like to make mine look like a 87 , no one seems to make all of the 88 color aftermarket plastic .

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barkhard696 wrote:
Here it is finished.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done2_240413.jpg[/img]
Here it is finished.
Donny O'Slow O'Hara wrote:
That looks Sweeeet !!!! I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from...
That looks Sweeeet !!!!
I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from ?

Also do you or anyone else know if the 87 tank and shrouds will interchange with the 88 ? I would like to make mine look like a 87 , no one seems to make all of the 88 color aftermarket plastic .
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour.
UFO make ALL the plastic for a 1987 and the Rad Shrouds, Front & Rear Fender, Front number plate and probably shock guard from a 1987 will fit a 1986. The only plastic not available for a 1986 are side panels. You can get Maier but I wouldn't bother or DC but they are not "Show" quality, only good if you want to race the bike. The sprocket looks like a Sunstar Works Triplestar, easily available in the USA.
Donny O'Slow O'Hara 7/16/2012 7:08pm
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barkhard696 wrote:
Here it is finished.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done2_240413.jpg[/img]
Here it is finished.
Donny O'Slow O'Hara wrote:
That looks Sweeeet !!!! I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from...
That looks Sweeeet !!!!
I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from ?

Also do you or anyone else know if the 87 tank and shrouds will interchange with the 88 ? I would like to make mine look like a 87 , no one seems to make all of the 88 color aftermarket plastic .
jtracing6 wrote:
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour. UFO make...
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour.
UFO make ALL the plastic for a 1987 and the Rad Shrouds, Front & Rear Fender, Front number plate and probably shock guard from a 1987 will fit a 1986. The only plastic not available for a 1986 are side panels. You can get Maier but I wouldn't bother or DC but they are not "Show" quality, only good if you want to race the bike. The sprocket looks like a Sunstar Works Triplestar, easily available in the USA.
I'm talking 88 to 87.
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Donny O'Slow O'Hara wrote:
That looks Sweeeet !!!! I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from...
That looks Sweeeet !!!!
I just got a 88 I'm going to restore. What brand of sprocket is that, and were did you buy it from ?

Also do you or anyone else know if the 87 tank and shrouds will interchange with the 88 ? I would like to make mine look like a 87 , no one seems to make all of the 88 color aftermarket plastic .
jtracing6 wrote:
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour. UFO make...
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour.
UFO make ALL the plastic for a 1987 and the Rad Shrouds, Front & Rear Fender, Front number plate and probably shock guard from a 1987 will fit a 1986. The only plastic not available for a 1986 are side panels. You can get Maier but I wouldn't bother or DC but they are not "Show" quality, only good if you want to race the bike. The sprocket looks like a Sunstar Works Triplestar, easily available in the USA.
Donny O'Slow O'Hara wrote:
I'm talking 88 to 87.
Ah, sorry, I need stronger glasses! haha
I'm 99% sure the 87 tank will go on the 88. UFO make all plastic for the 88 if you want to keep the darker red.
If you can't get UFO in the US you can get it easily in the UK or Italy

http://www.mdracingproducts.co.uk/content/honda-individual-parts-0?mode…
Donny O'Slow O'Hara 7/17/2012 7:57pm
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jtracing6 wrote:
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour. UFO make...
The tank shrouds from a 1987 CR250 will fit a 1986 CR250, they are the same. 1986 & 1987 plastic are the same colour.
UFO make ALL the plastic for a 1987 and the Rad Shrouds, Front & Rear Fender, Front number plate and probably shock guard from a 1987 will fit a 1986. The only plastic not available for a 1986 are side panels. You can get Maier but I wouldn't bother or DC but they are not "Show" quality, only good if you want to race the bike. The sprocket looks like a Sunstar Works Triplestar, easily available in the USA.
Donny O'Slow O'Hara wrote:
I'm talking 88 to 87.
jtracing6 wrote:
Ah, sorry, I need stronger glasses! haha I'm 99% sure the 87 tank will go on the 88. UFO make all plastic for the 88 if...
Ah, sorry, I need stronger glasses! haha
I'm 99% sure the 87 tank will go on the 88. UFO make all plastic for the 88 if you want to keep the darker red.
If you can't get UFO in the US you can get it easily in the UK or Italy

http://www.mdracingproducts.co.uk/content/honda-individual-parts-0?mode…
That UK link shows both reds, every place that I order from only shows Red, and it doesn't say which red it is. I just order the UFO front number plate that said it was for the 84-87 which shroud be Flash red it showed up the darker Fighting red, which I though was odd, I've been meaning to call the supplier that I ordered it from, to ask if they have the Flash red one .

If I can get all of the plastic for the 88 from UFO in the darker Fighting Red then I will keep it that color, because I really like the shape of the tank and shrouds on it . Check out this picture, ( this is not my bike, mine is in really bad shape)

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jtracing6 7/18/2012 12:06am
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Can you call/mail the USA importer? So that you can be sure you get the correct colour?
That UK importer also do a lot of it in white and black. If you're stuck I'm sure they will send to you in the USA.
That bike in the photo looks like it's in England judging by the garden, house style and weather!
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barkhard696 wrote:
Here it is finished.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done2_240413.jpg[/img]
Here it is finished.
Would anybody know if you can still get the grey front disc cover for the 87 ?
Donny O'Slow O'Hara 5/4/2013 5:43pm
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barkhard696 wrote:
Here it is finished.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done2_240413.jpg[/img]
Here it is finished.
mb60 wrote:
Would anybody know if you can still get the grey front disc cover for the 87 ?
DC Plastic has one here .

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mb60 5/12/2013 6:20pm
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barkhard696 wrote:
Other side...[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done11_223516.jpg[/img]
Other side...
Awsome looking bike. 2 questions on these ? Anybody know who makes a good looking silencer still for these ? Jemco did mine on my 84 yz 250 and I'm sure he could make one on these also. Also do you know who makes the clutch cover shown on this bike ?
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barkhard696 wrote:
Other side...[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/06/10/done11_223516.jpg[/img]
Other side...
mb60 wrote:
Awsome looking bike. 2 questions on these ? Anybody know who makes a good looking silencer still for these ? Jemco did mine on my 84...
Awsome looking bike. 2 questions on these ? Anybody know who makes a good looking silencer still for these ? Jemco did mine on my 84 yz 250 and I'm sure he could make one on these also. Also do you know who makes the clutch cover shown on this bike ?
You can find this Honda Racing replica clutch cover on ebay. They are very good quality.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-RACING-HRC-REPLICA-CLUTCH-COVER-CR500-C…
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nine1seven 5/13/2013 7:53pm
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Use the OEM silencer. That is what RJ's factory bike looks it had on it. I have a brand new OEM silencer in the box if you are interested.

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Use the OEM silencer. That is what RJ's factory bike looks it had on it. I have a brand new OEM silencer in the box if...
Use the OEM silencer. That is what RJ's factory bike looks it had on it. I have a brand new OEM silencer in the box if you are interested.

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Yes I'm very interested. The bike I'm doing has the stock silencer but they cut it shorter. How much are you asking and how do I reach you ?
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Yes I'm very interested. The bike I'm doing has the stock silencer but they cut it shorter. How much are you asking and how do I...
Yes I'm very interested. The bike I'm doing has the stock silencer but they cut it shorter. How much are you asking and how do I reach you ?
Hey Mike, I highly recommend that you check your radiators before you ride your bike. I went to the track to test my 87 last weekend. I have a temperature gun and it was getting up near 200 degrees in just two laps, so I packed it up and went home and pulled the radiators. The left radiator was plugged solid with limescale and air wouldn't even pass though it. The right was also significantly blocked but it still flowed. I filled them up with 20% acid vinegar and let them soak for 24 hours and you wouldn't believe how much crud came out of them. Now they are almost totally clear, but I'm going to continue soaking them for another day.
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mb60 5/15/2013 8:10pm
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Cam,

I tried giving you a call. I'm going to do my radiators after this weekend but should be ok. The guy rode the bike a couple of times before he lost interest. I will get with you at Oak Hill and get a list of what you ordered for the crankcase.

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TajManMX 9/14/2013 7:55am
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I LOVE your bike man! Its incredible.
I'm rebuilding my old custom bike now, '87 CR250 frame with XR305cc engine in it! The old '87 CR suspension IS awesome.
I want to copy your new wheels, exactly! I messaged you already for more details..
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Great build!
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Please contact me nine1seven!! I still very much want to get in touch with you about your build!
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nine1seven 10/19/2013 5:25pm
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Hey Taj. Just saw your post. I sent you an email as well. Let me know how I can help with your project.

The 92-96 rear hub is much lighter and is the same dimensions as the 87 so it's basically a bolt on. You need to use the 87 spacers with it. I also used the 96 axle and aluminum chain adjusters blocks (87 had steel adjuster blocks). You need to cut them down to fit in the narrower swingarm opening but it's worth it. All told it's nearly two lbs lighter and all unsprung weight. The hub is 32 spoke whereas the 87 was 36 spoke so you'll need the 92-94 18" or 96 and up 19" rim as well. The 87 front hub and spokes work with all current versions. Lots of current CRF rims are available cheap and you could send them off to TCR or another anodizing shop to get that light gold color that the 87 CR's had.

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Great great topic I have to say..
ducati996 10/23/2013 12:24pm
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Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on

ducati996 10/23/2013 12:26pm
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Another pic of tail pipe
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ducati996 wrote:
Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/10/23/34714/s1200_IMGP1847.jpg[/img]
Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on

If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ?
Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to make them
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If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ? Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to...
If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ?
Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to make them
Someone in the UK paid Mitch to run a batch recently. Seems like they were wanting $350, or so.
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ducati996 wrote:
Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/10/23/34714/s1200_IMGP1847.jpg[/img]
Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on

mb60 wrote:
If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ? Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to...
If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ?
Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to make them
Sorry i dont know where you can the PC pipe from,this bike i bought with it on,the guy i bought it off did tell me that Pro Circuit will only make them if they have an order of ten.....dont know if that is true or not.
ducati996 10/24/2013 12:13am
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ducati996 wrote:
Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/10/23/34714/s1200_IMGP1847.jpg[/img]
Pro Circuit make a complete system for the 87 CR 250......Here is my 87 with it on

mb60 wrote:
If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ? Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to...
If you don't mind me asking. Where did you get the pc pipe and how much ?
Called Pro Circuit and they discontinued the stamps to make them
Forgot to say that i have seen the tail pipes on ebay for sale but not the expansion pipe.

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