Mx trainers in CA

Edited Date/Time 7/19/2013 3:19pm
Just wondering of how many there r in California. I often get to read stuff on social media sites from training with him or with him was great. ( teached me a lot etc etc .... )

can someone tell me if these people / trainers can make a living out of it ?

And no i dont want to start a school myself i was just wondering about it as it seems its a common fact overthere , and here there r none or just a few
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7/17/2013 2:12pm
The answer is yes there are many and

there are less that make money and

even less that actually know what they are doing.
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7/17/2013 2:42pm
Ryan Hughes has a S&C gig going on. He'll have you toss around kettle balls and lift dumbells with horrible form, I'm sure, for a good price.
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7/17/2013 3:17pm
Lots of "trainers" with kids on 85cc bikes at Milestone on any given day.

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7/17/2013 3:29pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2013 3:31pm
I know of a pro-am trainer who is making some money doing it.

My only gripe though, is that he is a pro-am rider and doesn't even crack the top-15 locally. So I Think hes somewhat cheating the people who train with him... But to each their own i guess.

If you want to launch a training class. I say market, market, market... You can't go wrong... so many people want to be the next rc your bound to make a decent amount of money.
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7/17/2013 4:12pm
Let me see if I can name a few. Sean Hamblin, Casey Johnson, Steve Lamson, Ron Turner, Gary Jones, Kurt Hendricson, Doug Doubach, Ty Davis, Travis Peston. Theres more out there but here are a few. Just in Ca. because in Az. there is Shawn Kalos, and some other top ex pros.
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7/17/2013 4:13pm
Are you talking trainers to assist you with physical conditioning or a bike " trainer/coach ".
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7/17/2013 4:40pm
Everybody in SoCal wants to be an mx trainer on the bike and off. It's a joke, MANY don't have a clue what they're doing nor teaching.
7/17/2013 8:01pm
englishman wrote:
Are you talking trainers to assist you with physical conditioning or a bike " trainer/coach ".
@ Engmishman , Bike trainer / coach
The physical trainers probably have there own facility's and r more common in the daily life as there r many people that hit the gym once in a while even people form outside the sport
7/17/2013 8:11pm
twizzler wrote:
Everybody in SoCal wants to be an mx trainer on the bike and off. It's a joke, MANY don't have a clue what they're doing nor...
Everybody in SoCal wants to be an mx trainer on the bike and off. It's a joke, MANY don't have a clue what they're doing nor teaching.
what i think that happens in California, people that want to do it go to a camp/Trainer for a month wright shit down and start afterwords so they basically cant go wrong.

by doing so there r basically no limits on the trainers, things here r a bit different if you want to teach kids or adults you have to have a certificate provided by the government that you must show your true potential in physical training and how you r handling with kids and you must be able to provide a diet schedule as well etc etc these classes take between 6 and 18 months if i remember correctly.

So there r no instant trainers here all trainers here have worked for there certificate and know what there doing, although there r trainers that have a good idea on your gym schedule and food regime but not so good on the riding part
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7/17/2013 8:53pm
Just mention "LL champion" and you will have 100 wanna-dads registered before tomorrow. That might not work for oversees customers though, which is probably why you don't have 20 trainers around every corner.
7/18/2013 1:48pm
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Just mention "LL champion" and you will have 100 wanna-dads registered before tomorrow. That might not work for oversees customers though, which is probably why you...
Just mention "LL champion" and you will have 100 wanna-dads registered before tomorrow. That might not work for oversees customers though, which is probably why you don't have 20 trainers around every corner.
I do know that LL is the biggest and most recognised amateur championship in whole world. But i never figured it would have such a big influence on the trainers.

what you r saying is ( if you have won a LL championship and you would mention that in your bio alot of people r going to show up ) strange thought as maybe he has a 50 cc championship form back in the day
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7/18/2013 2:26pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2013 2:29pm
norcal3737 wrote:
Ryan Hughes has a S&C gig going on. He'll have you toss around kettle balls and lift dumbells with horrible form, I'm sure, for a good...
Ryan Hughes has a S&C gig going on. He'll have you toss around kettle balls and lift dumbells with horrible form, I'm sure, for a good price.
Haha! Norcal- That made me laugh, thanks. Don't forget Tyler Bowers "Tough love Mx School", he'll punch you out if you can't go fast enough.
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7/18/2013 3:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/18/2013 3:19pm
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for beginner teenagers? I've been wondering this for awhile since my son just turned 14 and is an honest beginner rider. I would like to get him some good instruction from someone other than myself (who is a desert rider and is honestly pretty clueless on the track).
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7/18/2013 3:16pm
socaldan wrote:
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for...
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for beginner teenagers? I've been wondering this for awhile since my son just turned 14 and is an honest beginner rider. I would like to get him some good instruction from someone other than myself (who is a desert rider and is honestly pretty clueless on the track).
I would go to what ever track you plan to ride most and ask around, there are many of the Pro's or ex Pro's that can help and at least get a few lessons and some advice on what you are trying to do weather it's just enjoy riding tracks or racing.
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7/18/2013 4:16pm
socaldan wrote:
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for...
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for beginner teenagers? I've been wondering this for awhile since my son just turned 14 and is an honest beginner rider. I would like to get him some good instruction from someone other than myself (who is a desert rider and is honestly pretty clueless on the track).
E-mail Sarah Sleeter at Haven Sports Management they run some stuff that might work for you.
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7/18/2013 6:39pm
socaldan wrote:
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for...
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for beginner teenagers? I've been wondering this for awhile since my son just turned 14 and is an honest beginner rider. I would like to get him some good instruction from someone other than myself (who is a desert rider and is honestly pretty clueless on the track).
500guy wrote:
I would go to what ever track you plan to ride most and ask around, there are many of the Pro's or ex Pro's that can...
I would go to what ever track you plan to ride most and ask around, there are many of the Pro's or ex Pro's that can help and at least get a few lessons and some advice on what you are trying to do weather it's just enjoy riding tracks or racing.
Good advice. Thanks!
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7/18/2013 6:40pm
socaldan wrote:
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for...
Ok, this is kind of on topic here and I might as well ask. Does anyone know of any good riding coaches/trainers here in so-cal for beginner teenagers? I've been wondering this for awhile since my son just turned 14 and is an honest beginner rider. I would like to get him some good instruction from someone other than myself (who is a desert rider and is honestly pretty clueless on the track).
englishman wrote:
E-mail Sarah Sleeter at Haven Sports Management they run some stuff that might work for you.
Thanks!
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7/18/2013 11:45pm
activeMX wrote:
Lots of "trainers" with kids on 85cc bikes at Milestone on any given day.
Bingo!
7/19/2013 4:11am
The bigger picture.

What do they charge, /month or /hour ?
How many days/hours do they give lessons?
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7/19/2013 7:37am
Ryan Hughes has made a good chunk of money training people.
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7/19/2013 11:09am Edited Date/Time 7/19/2013 11:10am
Ryan Hughes has made a good chunk of money training people.
A big name goes a long way toward getting people to buy into your program. Just because a coach was successful as a racer doesn't qualify him or her to teach riding or training techniques.

Just look at Hughes' program as opposed to a top trainer like Aldon Baker - totally different . I saw the video of Eli Tomac training with Hughes and it made me cringe, I'm no trainer but my gut feeling was Eli was going to hurt himself training like that.
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7/19/2013 11:21am
Ryan Hughes has made a good chunk of money training people.
Brent wrote:
A big name goes a long way toward getting people to buy into your program. Just because a coach was successful as a racer doesn't qualify...
A big name goes a long way toward getting people to buy into your program. Just because a coach was successful as a racer doesn't qualify him or her to teach riding or training techniques.

Just look at Hughes' program as opposed to a top trainer like Aldon Baker - totally different . I saw the video of Eli Tomac training with Hughes and it made me cringe, I'm no trainer but my gut feeling was Eli was going to hurt himself training like that.
I trained with Ryno for a year and I was in the best shape of my life. I didn't have the talent to win races, but I never got hurt training with him, on or off the bike. I got faster and was a safer rider. I was able to save a lot of crashes I was unable to before I started training with him because I had the strength to manhandle the bike better. He was one of the first dudes to stress that you actually need a lot of strength to ride a 450, so you need to build up a lot of muscle mass--not body builder status--but you need muscle. This was around the time everyone was super into cycling and being lean.

Of course, Ryno doesn't know everything. But no one does. Training is not a science, and even people like Baker are just trying to make it more scientific. You are working with humans, so there is a lot of variability of what works for who and what does not. Anyone who tells you they have the secret or knows the winning formula is lying to you. They have no idea what is going to work for you. They just have better guesses than other people, at best.
7/19/2013 3:19pm
I trained with Ryno for a year and I was in the best shape of my life. I didn't have the talent to win races, but...
I trained with Ryno for a year and I was in the best shape of my life. I didn't have the talent to win races, but I never got hurt training with him, on or off the bike. I got faster and was a safer rider. I was able to save a lot of crashes I was unable to before I started training with him because I had the strength to manhandle the bike better. He was one of the first dudes to stress that you actually need a lot of strength to ride a 450, so you need to build up a lot of muscle mass--not body builder status--but you need muscle. This was around the time everyone was super into cycling and being lean.

Of course, Ryno doesn't know everything. But no one does. Training is not a science, and even people like Baker are just trying to make it more scientific. You are working with humans, so there is a lot of variability of what works for who and what does not. Anyone who tells you they have the secret or knows the winning formula is lying to you. They have no idea what is going to work for you. They just have better guesses than other people, at best.
This makes alot of sense, ( they just have better guesses than other people )

for myself i know i must work my ass of the feel good about my training, i do not have any clue if its good for me though :D

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