Red Bud Bench Racing Discussion - The Motos

smeg
Profile picture for user smeg
Posts
1096
Joined
2/13/2011
Location
Washington, DC, USA
smeg 7/6/2013 11:03am
7/6/2013 11:03am
Sounded like he was saying an overall electrical problem. Not just e-start specific. At least thats what I got from what he said
toroP
Profile picture for user toroP
Posts
4521
Joined
4/6/2009
Location
Cincinnati, OH, USA
toroP 7/6/2013 11:03am
7/6/2013 11:03am
bvm111 wrote:
Dungey is dropping the anchor
DownSouth wrote:
Que? He is in 3rd less than a second behind Canard.
bvm111 wrote:
I was foreshadowing about his DNF..... Just looked like he started looking over his shoulder and dropped his elbows when Bubba was right behind him..... Dropping...
I was foreshadowing about his DNF.....

Just looked like he started looking over his shoulder and dropped his elbows when Bubba was right behind him..... Dropping the anchor probably wasn't the right thing to say
RD just made one big mistake in segment 4, losing 5 seconds. That's how James got close. Dungey was pulling away again from JS when he stalled it.
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 7/6/2013 11:03am
7/6/2013 11:03am
smeg wrote:
Decoster said it started right up back in the pits. I kickstaerter probably wouldn't have helped.
Exactly, hence why he coudlnt bump start it.
Boxermann
Profile picture for user Boxermann
Posts
214
Joined
5/29/2013
Location
North Hollywood, CA, USA
Boxermann 7/6/2013 11:04am
7/6/2013 11:04am
Remeber it was decosters decision to get rid of the kick starter.saved wieght but no back up plan when its not working.

The Shop

See All »
Bill_Carroll
Profile picture for user Bill_Carroll
Posts
5083
Joined
9/15/2010
Location
Falcon, CO, USA
Bill_Carroll 7/6/2013 11:05am
7/6/2013 11:05am
BlackForestCO wrote:
Yes, until I left for college, then moved to Denver for work after school. My parents still live there.
They alright did the house survive?
Boxermann
Profile picture for user Boxermann
Posts
214
Joined
5/29/2013
Location
North Hollywood, CA, USA
Boxermann 7/6/2013 11:06am
7/6/2013 11:06am
smeg wrote:
Decoster said it started right up back in the pits. I kickstaerter probably wouldn't have helped.
ocscottie wrote:
Exactly, hence why he coudlnt bump start it.
There's a chance a kick starter could have fired it up
Mike Sweeney
Profile picture for user Mike Sweeney
Posts
11
Joined
7/5/2013
Location
Haverhill, MA, USA
Mike Sweeney 7/6/2013 11:07am
7/6/2013 11:07am
Sounds like the stalling was an issue with the, bike, not operator error
queen of spodes 7/6/2013 11:07am
7/6/2013 11:07am
Jamie_Munro wrote:
even if it did he was not going to kickstart it after nearly a full moto - wounder for Dunge regardless of fan or not.
Live by estart, die by estart. How much extra weight would a kicker, gear & spring add? 1 lb? Decoster wasn't clear on WHAT the electrical was... only that the problem was "electrical". Could mean he stalled and there wasn't enough juice to bump it going again.
Choppy
Profile picture for user Choppy
Posts
1931
Joined
12/16/2012
Location
USA
Choppy 7/6/2013 11:07am
7/6/2013 11:07am
KTM claimed another. Major bummer for the series.
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 7/6/2013 11:07am
7/6/2013 11:07am
"looks like i picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue" Blink
DownSouth
Profile picture for user DownSouth
Posts
9969
Joined
7/5/2008
Location
Tallapoosa, GA, USA
DownSouth 7/6/2013 11:07am
7/6/2013 11:07am
bturner26x wrote:
Damn, I wonder if their going to add a kick starter now:S ?! I'm sure whatever happened it wont happen again just like with the shift...
Damn, I wonder if their going to add a kick starter nowDizzy ?! I'm sure whatever happened it wont happen again just like with the shift lever That just cost him big, possibly a championship.
I do not think they can add a kickstarter. I thought the latest version of the KTM450FE they removed the kickstart bosses on the engine cases where the kickstart used to be. You can not make those kind of mods to the engine cases and still be legal with the production rule.

From MXA
"The 2013 engine cases are in the background. You can see the kick starter boss that has been eliminated from the 2013-1/2 Factory Edition cases (foreground). The motocross verison never had a kickstarter, but it still had the boss."

TDeath21
Profile picture for user TDeath21
Posts
6515
Joined
2/22/2011
Location
Somewhere, MO, USA
TDeath21 7/6/2013 11:08am
7/6/2013 11:08am
TDeath21 wrote:
How does this never happen when he's dominating (2010, 2012) and always happen when Villopoto is there and they're in a points battle (2011, 2013)? Bummed.
zook11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/07/06/26286/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
Good point. Although I ultimately think this won't change the outcome of the championship, it still sucks. It would have been great to watch.
throttle77
Profile picture for user throttle77
Posts
172
Joined
5/1/2011
Location
Winchester, VA, USA
throttle77 7/6/2013 11:08am
7/6/2013 11:08am
throttle77 wrote:
Really hoping there's a stream for moto 2.
DownSouth wrote:
450 moto 2 is on your local NBC network station. The same channel you watch the Action 10 news team featuring award winning weatherman Flip Winkleman.
Awesome thanks.
queen of spodes 7/6/2013 11:09am
7/6/2013 11:09am
smeg wrote:
Decoster said it started right up back in the pits. I kickstaerter probably wouldn't have helped.
If the battery was going flat a kicker would have started the bike right away.
dhp_mma94
Profile picture for user dhp_mma94
Posts
4767
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD, USA
dhp_mma94 7/6/2013 11:09am
7/6/2013 11:09am
here we go!!!! 250 time
BlackForestCO 7/6/2013 11:10am
7/6/2013 11:10am
BlackForestCO wrote:
Yes, until I left for college, then moved to Denver for work after school. My parents still live there.
Bill_Carroll wrote:
They alright did the house survive?
They are alright. Everything on the property burned down (including the shop with all the bikes unfortunately) but the house. The firefighters literally must have been standing on the porch saving it. Most of the other homes on their street/in their area burned down, it was a really sad sight to see.
Choppy
Profile picture for user Choppy
Posts
1931
Joined
12/16/2012
Location
USA
Choppy 7/6/2013 11:10am
7/6/2013 11:10am
Sounds like a kickstarter wouldn't have helped seeing how it was ELECTRICAL.
Give it a rest kickstart crew.

Pit Row

See All »
dantheman
Profile picture for user dantheman
Posts
1151
Joined
3/23/2013
Location
AZ
dantheman 7/6/2013 11:10am
7/6/2013 11:10am
TOMAC in first... see first 450 moto replay!!!
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 7/6/2013 11:11am
7/6/2013 11:11am
Move over Mikey, Wilbur took your holeshooter title!
Jamie_Munro 7/6/2013 11:11am
7/6/2013 11:11am
Jamie_Munro wrote:
even if it did he was not going to kickstart it after nearly a full moto - wounder for Dunge regardless of fan or not.
queen of spodes wrote:
Live by estart, die by estart. How much extra weight would a kicker, gear & spring add? 1 lb? Decoster wasn't clear on WHAT the electrical...
Live by estart, die by estart. How much extra weight would a kicker, gear & spring add? 1 lb? Decoster wasn't clear on WHAT the electrical was... only that the problem was "electrical". Could mean he stalled and there wasn't enough juice to bump it going again.
no way it would have started.

also, how many times has e-start saved a ktm rider? more times than it has cost them i can tell you that much - sx season displayed that clearly without looking @ outdoors.
throttle77
Profile picture for user throttle77
Posts
172
Joined
5/1/2011
Location
Winchester, VA, USA
throttle77 7/6/2013 11:12am
7/6/2013 11:12am
Looks like the 250's are handling a little better on this track.
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 7/6/2013 11:12am
7/6/2013 11:12am
A-Bomb in 7th!
BlackForestCO 7/6/2013 11:13am
7/6/2013 11:13am
dantheman wrote:
TOMAC in first... see first 450 moto replay!!!
Probably so. At least Tomac usually gets crappy starts so the first half of the moto is interesting. Better start drinking.
dhp_mma94
Profile picture for user dhp_mma94
Posts
4767
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD, USA
dhp_mma94 7/6/2013 11:13am
7/6/2013 11:13am
musquin is on it today
dantheman
Profile picture for user dantheman
Posts
1151
Joined
3/23/2013
Location
AZ
dantheman 7/6/2013 11:13am
7/6/2013 11:13am
Can a 250 do the LEAP? MOOSE can Smile
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
37817
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
TeamGreen 7/6/2013 11:14am
7/6/2013 11:14am
MM25 is Rippin'!
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 7/6/2013 11:14am
7/6/2013 11:14am
down to 10th w/ Webb in 9th
smeg
Profile picture for user smeg
Posts
1096
Joined
2/13/2011
Location
Washington, DC, USA
smeg 7/6/2013 11:15am
7/6/2013 11:15am
The impression I got from the interview was that a kickstarter wouldn't hav helped. But we will nrver know.

Personally I think it was a bad move to NOT have a kickstarter. Hell, if you never have to use it fine. But redundancy can be a good thing.
ocscottie
Profile picture for user ocscottie
Posts
69092
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Redding, CA, USA
ocscottie 7/6/2013 11:16am
7/6/2013 11:16am
top 3 ran 219's

Post a reply to: Red Bud Bench Racing Discussion - The Motos