Team USA 2013

Edited Date/Time 5/25/2013 1:06am
Okey, I know it's early but...

RV will probably be one of the two to be picked, if he's healthy, for the MXoN this year. RD is an outdoor machine but however, I believe it's JS that can pick up RVs speed and give him some competition. Maybe Dungey will pick it up and be the contender, but lets say that it becomes a battle between RV and JS. Do you guys think De Coster will pick James or will he, like always, pick his favorite boy Dunge as his MX1 rider?

For the MX2 spot, I hope Tomac gets it and smokes everyone with the speed we all know he has.
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5/23/2013 10:40am
Its (if healthy) RV, RD (team Roger remember?) and probably Tomac.
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5/23/2013 10:44am Edited Date/Time 5/23/2013 10:44am
I highly doubt Stewart will race under Decoster even if asked.
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It`s going to be Villopoto, Dungey and Baggett.
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Last year Stewart said he does not like Decoster and Decoster does not like him so I would think that hurts his chances.

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kongols wrote:
It`s going to be Villopoto, Dungey and Baggett.
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it to be Eli, because he is such a wildcard. He can go out and ride around in 5th and look uninspired or he can get to that next gear and just ruin everyone and look like he is on a whole different level. But then again, Im not sure Eli can deal with the pressure as well as Blake, and Blake has had his own struggles. Young Jeffery is gonna be a pain for anyone we send.
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kongols wrote:
It`s going to be Villopoto, Dungey and Baggett.
FlaNard wrote:
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it...
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it to be Eli, because he is such a wildcard. He can go out and ride around in 5th and look uninspired or he can get to that next gear and just ruin everyone and look like he is on a whole different level. But then again, Im not sure Eli can deal with the pressure as well as Blake, and Blake has had his own struggles. Young Jeffery is gonna be a pain for anyone we send.
Jeffrey is going to be on a big bike.
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5/23/2013 10:59am
kongols wrote:
It`s going to be Villopoto, Dungey and Baggett.
FlaNard wrote:
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it...
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it to be Eli, because he is such a wildcard. He can go out and ride around in 5th and look uninspired or he can get to that next gear and just ruin everyone and look like he is on a whole different level. But then again, Im not sure Eli can deal with the pressure as well as Blake, and Blake has had his own struggles. Young Jeffery is gonna be a pain for anyone we send.
kongols wrote:
Jeffrey is going to be on a big bike.
Well that's good for our chances then. I wasn't expecting Blake or Eli to beat him to be honest. RV will punt him off the track and slap his elderly grandmother in the face just because he can.
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5/23/2013 11:04am Edited Date/Time 5/23/2013 11:07am
FlaNard wrote:
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it...
You think? Even with the bum wrist? Its him or Eli, I guess it all depends who is ahead at that point. Im rooting for it to be Eli, because he is such a wildcard. He can go out and ride around in 5th and look uninspired or he can get to that next gear and just ruin everyone and look like he is on a whole different level. But then again, Im not sure Eli can deal with the pressure as well as Blake, and Blake has had his own struggles. Young Jeffery is gonna be a pain for anyone we send.
kongols wrote:
Jeffrey is going to be on a big bike.
FlaNard wrote:
Well that's good for our chances then. I wasn't expecting Blake or Eli to beat him to be honest. RV will punt him off the track...
Well that's good for our chances then. I wasn't expecting Blake or Eli to beat him to be honest. RV will punt him off the track and slap his elderly grandmother in the face just because he can.
He`s been on a big bike the last two des Nations. Since he was 16 years old. He beat Villopoto when he was 16 years old.
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I hope Courtney is on team NZ riding a yz125 Kissing
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DownSouth wrote:
Last year Stewart said he does not like Decoster and Decoster does not like him so I would think that hurts his chances.
That's what's fucked up about this sport.......................DeCoster is the Microsoft of the US MXoN team.
After last years performance, I think it's time to give someone else, like Larocco, the opportunity.
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5/23/2013 11:58am
kongols wrote:
Jeffrey is going to be on a big bike.
FlaNard wrote:
Well that's good for our chances then. I wasn't expecting Blake or Eli to beat him to be honest. RV will punt him off the track...
Well that's good for our chances then. I wasn't expecting Blake or Eli to beat him to be honest. RV will punt him off the track and slap his elderly grandmother in the face just because he can.
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He`s been on a big bike the last two des Nations. Since he was 16 years old. He beat Villopoto when he was 16 years old.
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing Roczen twice, and was all over Herlings on the last lap, who held him off by the skin of his teeth. This on a track RV had never raced on before, in another country and on another continent.

The statement that Herlings "beat" Villopoto at age 16 is factually true while not coming close to telling what actually happened in that race.
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5/23/2013 12:06pm
pilotdude wrote:
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing...
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing Roczen twice, and was all over Herlings on the last lap, who held him off by the skin of his teeth. This on a track RV had never raced on before, in another country and on another continent.

The statement that Herlings "beat" Villopoto at age 16 is factually true while not coming close to telling what actually happened in that race.
It's actually not factually true because although he did beat him in a MOTO, RV won the MX3 O/A that day while Herlings finished 3rd. RV beat Herlings by almost 30 sec in the 2nd MX3 moto. To my knowledge, motocross races are 2 motos and the combined score over those 2 races determines a WINNER. To Say JH "beat" him is like giving a win to a team that goes into 1/2 time ahead.
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5/23/2013 12:06pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2013 12:08pm
pilotdude wrote:
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing...
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing Roczen twice, and was all over Herlings on the last lap, who held him off by the skin of his teeth. This on a track RV had never raced on before, in another country and on another continent.

The statement that Herlings "beat" Villopoto at age 16 is factually true while not coming close to telling what actually happened in that race.
Last year Herlings started dead last both his moto`s and still lapped Team USA.Shocked Tongue Wink Cool
At age of 17.
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kongols wrote:
Last year Herlings started dead last both his moto`s and still lapped Team USA.Shocked Tongue Wink Cool
At age of 17.
umm....#27 lead every lap of his first moto.....
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5/23/2013 12:24pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2013 12:25pm
pilotdude wrote:
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing...
Villopoto gave up the inside starting position in that moto to Baggett and was about 13th on the start. He then charged through the pack, passing Roczen twice, and was all over Herlings on the last lap, who held him off by the skin of his teeth. This on a track RV had never raced on before, in another country and on another continent.

The statement that Herlings "beat" Villopoto at age 16 is factually true while not coming close to telling what actually happened in that race.
kongols wrote:
Last year Herlings started dead last both his moto`s and still lapped Team USA.Shocked Tongue Wink Cool
At age of 17.
That might happen on sand but not on dirt. It didn't happen the seven years before.

Either way you look at it, a healthy RV vs a healthy Herlings is sure to be a race to remember.
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5/23/2013 12:28pm
kongols wrote:
I highly doubt Stewart will race under Decoster even if asked.
He would, he's done it before and they won both times.. IF he ended up second in points and was asked I don't think he would let their differences stop USA from putting the best possible team together.
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5/23/2013 12:29pm
If Stewart is ahead of Dungey in points, I would think he would be forced to pick James?
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If Stewart is ahead of Dungey in points, I would think he would be forced to pick James?
Doubt it.
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MT MX wrote:
That's what's fucked up about this sport.......................DeCoster is the Microsoft of the US MXoN team. After last years performance, I think it's time to give someone...
That's what's fucked up about this sport.......................DeCoster is the Microsoft of the US MXoN team.
After last years performance, I think it's time to give someone else, like Larocco, the opportunity.
So DeCoster is responsible for Team USA getting their rear ends handed to them at Lommel? Get real.

DeCoster is THE icon in our sport and we're lucky to have him continue to deal with the grind of travel year after year to stay actively involved in MX. If you haven't traveled extensively you have no idea what a toll and impact it has on your personal life.

We got beat plan and simple at Lommel and the deep sand there played to the Euro's advantage but hey that's racing! I'm looking forward to Roger leading the charge in Germany.

BTW I like Blake Bagget but it is clear racing MX across the pond is not his forte. He had two chances with a good wrist and given his physical condition now there is no way I would have him on Team USA in Germany. That having been said I hope he works through his wrist issues and returns to form over the course of the summer but I still wouldn't have him on Team USA for a third time.
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5/23/2013 12:47pm
DownSouth wrote:
Last year Stewart said he does not like Decoster and Decoster does not like him so I would think that hurts his chances.
MT MX wrote:
That's what's fucked up about this sport.......................DeCoster is the Microsoft of the US MXoN team. After last years performance, I think it's time to give someone...
That's what's fucked up about this sport.......................DeCoster is the Microsoft of the US MXoN team.
After last years performance, I think it's time to give someone else, like Larocco, the opportunity.
Your comment shows either a lack of respect or understanding....
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5/23/2013 12:57pm
Put Stew on the 250F, a la Bob Hannah in 1987.
5/23/2013 1:37pm
Why does decoster get to choose the team. He's not even from here
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Your comment shows either a lack of respect or understanding....
Replace "or" with "and", and also add "IQ"


I would be really surprised if Baggett got picked instead of Tomac. He already had 2 outings and it was mediocre at best.
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5/23/2013 1:42pm
It still blows my mind how so many people will bet on Stewart over Dungey. There hasn't been a season in which they've raced against each other that Stewart has finished ahead of Dungey. Also, everyone knows about how bad RV beat Dungey this past weekend. Guess what? Dungey beat Stewart in the same fashion. I'm not anti-Stewart, but I would NEVER bet my money on him over Dungey. Also, Baggett has gone to the MXdN two times now, and absolutely CHOKED both times. I say we go with someone else this year. RV, RD, and Tomac.
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Your comment shows either a lack of respect or understanding....
My comment had nothing to do with disrespect or understanding. I respect the guy for what he has done on/with a motorcycle, but I don't know him personally so I think that comment of yours wasn't very impartial. (My post probably wasn't either though.)
I'm going out on a limb here, the foundation of the United States of America was setup so that we will never be under a president for more than two terms. This was to allow different leadership regardless of good or bad. To allow fresh ideas.
My point I'm trying to make is........Why is it so bad to allow a different person be team manager? It won't make the US riders go slower or faster. Is it then because of his international relationships?
Also, on a side note, I am aware that Roger DeCoster does not pick the team, a committee does.

KlootZak - stay classy, buddy
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Why does decoster get to choose the team. He's not even from here
Because he lead us to our very first de Nations win on our first attempt, and like 8 straight after that... That's why. We have one bad year after dominating for so long and people begin to question management? More like a shameful flop by Baggett, poor team work by RD and JB, followed by some shotty spokes.

MT MX:

DeCoster has done so much for a country that isn't even his own. Why would we change up leadership when we've been so successful thus far? And to your point of the manager not picking the team, why does it even matter?
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MT MX wrote:
My comment had nothing to do with disrespect or understanding. I respect the guy for what he has done on/with a motorcycle, but I don't know...
My comment had nothing to do with disrespect or understanding. I respect the guy for what he has done on/with a motorcycle, but I don't know him personally so I think that comment of yours wasn't very impartial. (My post probably wasn't either though.)
I'm going out on a limb here, the foundation of the United States of America was setup so that we will never be under a president for more than two terms. This was to allow different leadership regardless of good or bad. To allow fresh ideas.
My point I'm trying to make is........Why is it so bad to allow a different person be team manager? It won't make the US riders go slower or faster. Is it then because of his international relationships?
Also, on a side note, I am aware that Roger DeCoster does not pick the team, a committee does.

KlootZak - stay classy, buddy
Horrible analogy considering the 22nd amendment (presidential term limits) wasn't ratified until 1951, there was absolutely no founding principle of changing out leadership.

DeCoster has done a fantastic job as the U.S.' team manager so why would we want to get rid of him? He knows how to take care of all the organizational aspects of the event, which is much more complex than a race in the U.S. Last year was just a fluke, Teutschenthal is a fairly hard pack track so I don't think we'll have any problem there.
5/24/2013 7:50pm
I thought they had scrapped the under23 rule for MXoN for this year, why would team U.S.A not be Villopoto, Dungey and JS on a 125, from what I have read on this board over many years, no one can beat JS7 on a 125 and he would be better of on the light super flickable two stroke that if was bought back would save the planet and maybe even Motocross.

It just makes sense really.

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