OT: New GM Truck

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jasonward73 12/13/2012 10:46am
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Looks like they just added some BNG. Not seeing anything monumental here.
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thehuck.0 12/13/2012 10:47am
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non-moto much?
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bvm111 12/13/2012 10:53am
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meh....looks like my 1999 did!!!
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DrSweden 12/13/2012 11:11am
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What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they still go for all power... Amazing that people still needs 300-400 hp because they once a year might pull a trailer with crap...

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nytsmaC 12/13/2012 11:12am
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The rear bumper steps are a good idea.
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kyle450rider 12/13/2012 11:32am
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DrSweden wrote:
What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they...
What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they still go for all power... Amazing that people still needs 300-400 hp because they once a year might pull a trailer with crap...
GM has been running dead last in Horsepower and Torque the last 2-3 years. This truck looks just like what they offer not, just slightly re-styled or like the poster above said.....BNG. LOL
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newmann 12/13/2012 11:40am
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Wow, the front end looks vaguely familiar.....wonder where I've seen it before?????




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newmann 12/13/2012 11:43am
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Good ole Gubment Motors. Maybe the dull as shit looks Tahoe and Suburban will get some help. Would like to upgrade from our '05 model but the current one just doesn't appeal.
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FroDiddy 12/13/2012 11:48am
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I like it. Nothing major, but it's cool.

My Tundra still looks better. Cool
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BigMX 12/13/2012 11:50am
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DrSweden wrote:
What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they...
What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they still go for all power... Amazing that people still needs 300-400 hp because they once a year might pull a trailer with crap...
This is America Damn it and we want power! We'll worry about MPG after we burn all the oil Smile
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Falcon 12/13/2012 11:54am
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"Let's build a new truck. We'll spend millions in R&D and marketing and we'll produce the best vehicle we possibly can. It will will have power, towing capabilities, innovative bed and bumper designs and great technological amenities. Then let's get the cheapest, least-attractive buttons for the internal controls that we can. Preferably outsourced to whatever country is trying to do to China what China is doing to us. If the buttons look like they belong on a child's toy, except that no self-respecting child would play with a toy that was made so cheaply, so much the better."


I feel like that conversation was heard in a GM board room at some time.
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DrSweden 12/13/2012 12:05pm
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DrSweden wrote:
What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they...
What about the mpg? People at Chevy gave the lack of oil, increased shortage a though this time? Just by the look of it, seems they still go for all power... Amazing that people still needs 300-400 hp because they once a year might pull a trailer with crap...
BigMX wrote:
This is America Damn it and we want power! We'll worry about MPG after we burn all the oil Smile
Yeah, kind of figured that out already. I don't get it, we all know it's going to run out, still people don't give a shit about the future, or that their kids will suffer.

Or it's good the faster we burn it? Will force new inventions earlier?

Gas is almost $10 a gallon in Sweden, people just adapt, but there's tons of small diesels engines running around...
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reded 12/13/2012 12:11pm
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Quite possibly the ugliest dash configuration .....ever.
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Racer92 12/13/2012 12:16pm
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Ugliest pickup trucks ever made. And Im a Chevy guy and grew up loving my Silverado.



Get a PowerWagon and drag that Chebbie around like a little girl holding a rag doll. Wink

4.56 gears baby !



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Hut 12/13/2012 12:19pm
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I don't see the purpose for the notched out bumper step. Just one more place for mud to get stuck. Why not just step on the top of the bumper like has been done forever?
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reded 12/13/2012 12:23pm
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Americans are fat and lazy, it's hard for them to step on top of the bumper.

On another note, the bumper will look extra good when rocks have blown those plastic steps to bits after 20,000 miles of gravel road.
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Racer92 12/13/2012 12:25pm
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reded wrote:
Americans are fat and lazy, it's hard for them to step on top of the bumper. On another note, the bumper will look extra good when...
Americans are fat and lazy, it's hard for them to step on top of the bumper.

On another note, the bumper will look extra good when rocks have blown those plastic steps to bits after 20,000 miles of gravel road.
Doesnt Ford have a built in 'Man Step' ? Laughing

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newmann 12/13/2012 1:14pm
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Falcon wrote:
"Let's build a new truck. We'll spend millions in R&D and marketing and we'll produce the best vehicle we possibly can. It will will have power...
"Let's build a new truck. We'll spend millions in R&D and marketing and we'll produce the best vehicle we possibly can. It will will have power, towing capabilities, innovative bed and bumper designs and great technological amenities. Then let's get the cheapest, least-attractive buttons for the internal controls that we can. Preferably outsourced to whatever country is trying to do to China what China is doing to us. If the buttons look like they belong on a child's toy, except that no self-respecting child would play with a toy that was made so cheaply, so much the better."


I feel like that conversation was heard in a GM board room at some time.
You left out the:

Since we now have to offer 7 year 100,000 mile corrosion protection and the trucks don't rust out in 4 years...

Since we now have to offer 100,000 mile powertrain warranties and you won't need a tune up or spark plugs for 100,000 miles....

We need to come up with reasons for people to buy a new vehicle every few years. How about:

we make door handles that break with amazing regularity so the customer thinks his truck is falling apart...

we make the window regulators break faster than the customer can get them replaced so the customer thinks his truck is doomed.....

lets make the ecm go beserk on x date so that we can charge $350.00 for a "hard reset"....

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newmann 12/13/2012 1:18pm
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Racer92 wrote:
Ugliest pickup trucks ever made. And Im a Chevy guy and grew up loving my Silverado. Get a PowerWagon and drag that Chebbie around like a...
Ugliest pickup trucks ever made. And Im a Chevy guy and grew up loving my Silverado.



Get a PowerWagon and drag that Chebbie around like a little girl holding a rag doll. Wink

4.56 gears baby !



We bought a new (leftover 2011) Dodge for the youngest son. Best riding 4x4 truck I've ever been in but damn o mighty, just breathe on the bedside or fenders and you have a dent. Shitty thin metal. Tap your fingers on a new GM bedside.....hollow echo for days!

Toyota Tundra bedside panel we put on just the other day.....talk about some meat! I'll bet it is twice the thickness of the Dodge.
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rosebud441 12/13/2012 1:25pm
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My god, could the noses on these new trucks GET any bigger...

How much wasted space is under that gigantic fucking nose, Thanks but i will keep my ole Tundra and save $40k
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Hut 12/13/2012 1:36pm
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When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit loads of room with the straight 6 but that was the last full year without all the emissions controls.
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newmann 12/13/2012 2:01pm
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Hut wrote:
When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit...
When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit loads of room with the straight 6 but that was the last full year without all the emissions controls.
And since 08 to do much on the Ford Super Duty you have to remove the entire cab of the truck to get at the engine.
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TeamGreen 12/13/2012 2:08pm
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Actually it's different through-out; however, they stayed with the "Same-Look" intending to keep the GM "look":

New Powertrains: More Power, More MPG, New Trans on it's way, too.

New "Exteneded Cab" with 4 REAL doors (No more "Clam-Shell" doors).

New Bigger Crew Cab.

It's new...it just still looks like a GM/Chevy...

The Bumper-Steps are a feature that's been brought back from the Oh-So-Stylish Avalanche.

The New 5.3 (C9, I think) will get the best MPG in class.
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Racer92 12/13/2012 2:19pm
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Hut wrote:
When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit...
When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit loads of room with the straight 6 but that was the last full year without all the emissions controls.
Actually, the 5.9 went half a year into 2007 also. My 2009 6.7 2500 is a beast, love it. The sheetmetal seems pretty decent to me actually. Maybe they got thinner with it between 09 and 11 ?
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newmann 12/13/2012 2:23pm
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I understand the 2014 F150 will have an all aluminum body. Not sure I like the thought of that....at least from the repair side of things.
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newmann 12/13/2012 2:25pm
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Hut wrote:
When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit...
When they stick a V-8 turbo diesel under the hood there isn't a lot of dead space in there. My trusty ol' 06 Dodge has shit loads of room with the straight 6 but that was the last full year without all the emissions controls.
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Actually, the 5.9 went half a year into 2007 also. My 2009 6.7 2500 is a beast, love it. The sheetmetal seems pretty decent to me...
Actually, the 5.9 went half a year into 2007 also. My 2009 6.7 2500 is a beast, love it. The sheetmetal seems pretty decent to me actually. Maybe they got thinner with it between 09 and 11 ?
09 2500 is the previous body style wasn't it?
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Hut 12/13/2012 2:26pm
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newmann wrote:
And since 08 to do much on the Ford Super Duty you have to remove the entire cab of the truck to get at the engine.
Yeah that's right, they sure did screw up when they left the 7.3 behind.
Look at these new ones! They really shoe horn them in there....
6.7 Powerstroke

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newmann 12/13/2012 2:47pm
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newmann wrote:
And since 08 to do much on the Ford Super Duty you have to remove the entire cab of the truck to get at the engine.
Hut wrote:
Yeah that's right, they sure did screw up when they left the 7.3 behind. Look at these new ones! They really shoe horn them in there...
Yeah that's right, they sure did screw up when they left the 7.3 behind.
Look at these new ones! They really shoe horn them in there....
6.7 Powerstroke

D'max

6.7 CTD
You ever get the idea that they don't want YOU working on them?Laughing

Every winter I have to replace the fuel filter vent valve after the first cold snap. Leaks diesel all over the top of the engine. Other than that, not much goes on with my 2001 7.3.
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You ever get the idea that they don't want YOU working on them?:laugh: Every winter I have to replace the fuel filter vent valve after the...
You ever get the idea that they don't want YOU working on them?Laughing

Every winter I have to replace the fuel filter vent valve after the first cold snap. Leaks diesel all over the top of the engine. Other than that, not much goes on with my 2001 7.3.
I hear ya. That is part of the reason I would like to keep this 06 going forever Smile but starting to feel the need to upgrade, probably a F450. Dizzy
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TeamGreen 12/13/2012 3:12pm
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newmann wrote:
You ever get the idea that they don't want YOU working on them?:laugh: Every winter I have to replace the fuel filter vent valve after the...
You ever get the idea that they don't want YOU working on them?Laughing

Every winter I have to replace the fuel filter vent valve after the first cold snap. Leaks diesel all over the top of the engine. Other than that, not much goes on with my 2001 7.3.
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I hear ya. That is part of the reason I would like to keep this 06 going forever :) but starting to feel the need to...
I hear ya. That is part of the reason I would like to keep this 06 going forever Smile but starting to feel the need to upgrade, probably a F450. Dizzy
Keep your '06...it doesn't need that bottle of DEF-shit-stuff.

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