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Crush 9/13/2012 2:36am
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MBR wrote:
Here is picture of old vs. new when cut open.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/09/13/IMG_8441_708293.jpg[/img]
Here is picture of old vs. new when cut open.
Has anyone heard anything about how the fork seals and what the maintenance schedule is going to be like? Is there any sense to worrying about a fork seal going and you just blowing through the stroke?
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tobz 9/13/2012 2:52am
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MBR wrote:
Here is picture of old vs. new when cut open.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/09/13/IMG_8441_708293.jpg[/img]
Here is picture of old vs. new when cut open.
Crush wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about how the fork seals and what the maintenance schedule is going to be like? Is there any sense to worrying about...
Has anyone heard anything about how the fork seals and what the maintenance schedule is going to be like? Is there any sense to worrying about a fork seal going and you just blowing through the stroke?
There was a video of bones talking about these forks, they said they tested this scenario and let all of the air out of the forks and it didn't sag too much.
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ehr400 9/13/2012 3:18am
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MBR wrote:
Here is couple pics from other color version on the YMX-1 protos from test session earlier this year. Some of you guys might be even be...
Here is couple pics from other color version on the YMX-1 protos from test session earlier this year. Some of you guys might be even be able to recognize the track ; )




Minä puhun vähän suomea.

Where abouts in Finland are you? How about you hook up a Finnish brother up with some of that sick gear?! Lol.
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motomike137 9/13/2012 4:12am
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MBR wrote:
Here is picture of old vs. new when cut open.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2012/09/13/IMG_8441_708293.jpg[/img]
Here is picture of old vs. new when cut open.
Crush wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about how the fork seals and what the maintenance schedule is going to be like? Is there any sense to worrying about...
Has anyone heard anything about how the fork seals and what the maintenance schedule is going to be like? Is there any sense to worrying about a fork seal going and you just blowing through the stroke?
Crush, I believe that the air is contained in a chamber within the fork and so the seal really isn't holdong back the air spring pressure.

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Motocross83 9/13/2012 4:26am
9/13/2012 4:26am
Very interesting read all round. Sure wish I was in the market for one, I love the new look personally.
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Derpin' DJ 9/13/2012 4:33am
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motomike137 wrote:
Crush, I believe that the air is contained in a chamber within the fork and so the seal really isn't holdong back the air spring pressure.
If it's anything like a conventional fork, there is a layer of oil between the air and the seal
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-eagle- 9/13/2012 5:59am
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Cahuilla?
Hangin & Bangin 9/13/2012 6:08am
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WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! HOLD ON A SECOND! Forget the CFR, Yoko gear still exists!?!?! Where have I been? Do they have a set with all the...
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! HOLD ON A SECOND!

Forget the CFR, Yoko gear still exists!?!?! Where have I been? Do they have a set with all the fluorescent colors like the early 90s?
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There is this new age technology that hasnt been out that long but you should give it a try... its called google first thing that came...
There is this new age technology that hasnt been out that long but you should give it a try... its called google
first thing that came up
http://www.yokoformoto.es/en/11-dirt
Can you do that trick for RS Taichi MX gear?

Thanks, man. Let me know.
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Crush 9/13/2012 6:26am
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motomike137 wrote:
Crush, I believe that the air is contained in a chamber within the fork and so the seal really isn't holdong back the air spring pressure.
Derpin' DJ wrote:
If it's anything like a conventional fork, there is a layer of oil between the air and the seal
Cheers... I'll watch the Bones vid too tobes... TWMX was it?

Pretty cool to see some new stuff coming through... Till they get way lighter and maybe hydro clutches it's hard to think what else or how they'll get way better...
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mxracer32 9/13/2012 7:26am
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gear looks extremely rad- if price point is right you guys will havea solid winner when its released. personally i buy MSR gear and like it because its a good mix of qaulity and competitive pricing and i am very happy with it.

bike looks good, its hard to beat a new bike, and its a tough call to say any new bike isnt 'good' when just ridden in comparison to older bikes-but me being a honda guy im sure the thing is a solid choice. almost always is.
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jeffro503 9/13/2012 7:38am
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Great thread! Wish we could have more threads like this.

Great little review on the bike....and I also agree that the Yoko gear looks really good.
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Berni 9/13/2012 7:46am
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You can tell your brother he is doing a great job with the gear, and that white and blue gear is probably the best one I have ever seen. And by the way, I have an old Yoko pant that is probably the most durable one I have had to the date
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mmcmx 9/13/2012 8:03am
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I grew up watching my dad ride in YOKO gear. Pretty cool to see them back Smile
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MBR 9/13/2012 8:37am
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I talked with KYB technics and they told (if I understood them correctly) that the outer fork sealing is actually the same that last year. They tested it at track and dyno and didn't have any problems with durability. They also made scratches to lower part of the fork and tested it in dyno with water, sand and mud with no problems. The maintenance schedule is the same, even though the oil isn't supposed to get as dirty as before.

And yes, the KTM pictures are from Cahuilla. -Eagle- wins something (I don't know what (not million unfortunately), but we'll come up with something, if you can up pick it up from Monster Cup ; )

Yoko is currently sold only in Finland and few other countries. Although Vital might not be only way to evaluate if Yoko should come back to US/AUS, judging by people's reactions here, it might not be bad idea ; )
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JackLHyde 9/13/2012 10:16am
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Lol. I love how everyone goes crazy for the gear, because that's what I thought way more interesting instantly, too.
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JackLHyde 9/13/2012 10:18am
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mmcmx wrote:
I grew up watching my dad ride in YOKO gear. Pretty cool to see them back Smile
I still have some laying around from my brother, along with a chest protector I think. Bring it back guys!
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motomike137 9/13/2012 11:47am
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motomike137 wrote:
Crush, I believe that the air is contained in a chamber within the fork and so the seal really isn't holdong back the air spring pressure.
Derpin' DJ wrote:
If it's anything like a conventional fork, there is a layer of oil between the air and the seal
I was mistaken because I thought the air was somehow captured in a chamber or bladder but it isn't (at least in the KX design) so the fork seals do a better job of sealing things up than I realized.
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AzTrooper 9/13/2012 12:04pm
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The exhaust does have different sized outlets. The right silencer has a smaller output so the flow is spread out between both mufflers. They did the...
The exhaust does have different sized outlets. The right silencer has a smaller output so the flow is spread out between both mufflers. They did the same thing to the dual exhaust CRF250r's.

Gear looks great like other's have mentioned.
Thank you for letting me know and setting my mind at ease. The reasoning behind it makes perfect sense too. Im just glad I wasnt seeing things Smile
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jasonv43 9/13/2012 12:19pm
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YOKO!!!

Love it.
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Big 9/13/2012 12:29pm
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MBR wrote:
Here is couple pics from other color version on the YMX-1 protos from test session earlier this year. Some of you guys might be even be...
Here is couple pics from other color version on the YMX-1 protos from test session earlier this year. Some of you guys might be even be able to recognize the track ; )




Cahuilla? Can't spellit. Nice gear! Yoko is back! I'm starting to ride again.Wink
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Big 9/13/2012 12:33pm
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mmcmx wrote:
I grew up watching my dad ride in YOKO gear. Pretty cool to see them back Smile
Luke! I am your father........
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FourFooptyF 9/13/2012 12:35pm
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The back end of that Fonda where the twin butt-bubblers come out under the number plates looks about 24 inches wide.

Let's see some photos straight down from the top, to show how wide the ass end of that Fooper is....
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MXBOY2661 9/13/2012 12:57pm
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Im sure the new honda is alsome. I personally wouldnt buy one cause of tje dual exhaust thats the stupide thing i think they could of done. U think they would of learned from the 250f. Its not economcal , especially when bikes are 9 k to start with.
Howard_Racing 9/13/2012 12:59pm
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MBR wrote:
I talked with KYB technics and they told (if I understood them correctly) that the outer fork sealing is actually the same that last year. They...
I talked with KYB technics and they told (if I understood them correctly) that the outer fork sealing is actually the same that last year. They tested it at track and dyno and didn't have any problems with durability. They also made scratches to lower part of the fork and tested it in dyno with water, sand and mud with no problems. The maintenance schedule is the same, even though the oil isn't supposed to get as dirty as before.

And yes, the KTM pictures are from Cahuilla. -Eagle- wins something (I don't know what (not million unfortunately), but we'll come up with something, if you can up pick it up from Monster Cup ; )

Yoko is currently sold only in Finland and few other countries. Although Vital might not be only way to evaluate if Yoko should come back to US/AUS, judging by people's reactions here, it might not be bad idea ; )
I think it would be a great idea to bring Yoko back! I love that black and white pattern gear you're wearing in the op i would buy that.. Yoko would do great in the amateur scene over here, no one wants to wear the same shit as their competitor! but i just got flashes of rockstar logo's so i might be wrong lol
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MBR 9/13/2012 1:00pm
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The back end of that Fonda where the twin butt-bubblers come out under the number plates looks about 24 inches wide. Let's see some photos straight...
The back end of that Fonda where the twin butt-bubblers come out under the number plates looks about 24 inches wide.

Let's see some photos straight down from the top, to show how wide the ass end of that Fooper is....
Here is some photos. To be honest, when riding, I didn't notice the rear being any wider. Overall the bike had very sleek and light feel.



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cjmx 9/13/2012 1:28pm
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Can't wait to ride one. Very cool thread. Thanks MBR
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gpracer36 9/13/2012 1:47pm
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it’s so awesome to hear the jealousy, " I would never buy a bike with duel exhaust" "too wide" "I hate the looks" ha-ha, you know as well as everybody here you would take one in a heartbeat. Just bummed cause you have no money or bought another color first and now kicking yourself...so true
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TeamGreen 9/13/2012 2:27pm
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That bike is awesome and if the person that developed it is correct...it's going to be THE Supercross weapon.

Also, some of the "Twin Systems" that're coming down the pipe (Pun intended) are looking AWESOME!
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MBR 9/13/2012 10:52pm
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Here is diagram from differences between new and old fork, maybe this helps to understand how it works.
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FourFooptyF 9/13/2012 10:57pm
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gpracer36 wrote:
it’s so awesome to hear the jealousy, " I would never buy a bike with duel exhaust" "too wide" "I hate the looks" ha-ha, you know...
it’s so awesome to hear the jealousy, " I would never buy a bike with duel exhaust" "too wide" "I hate the looks" ha-ha, you know as well as everybody here you would take one in a heartbeat. Just bummed cause you have no money or bought another color first and now kicking yourself...so true
I'd take one in a heartbeat to trade it for a KTM or Yamaha two stroke.... if I could find someone to take it.....

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