Elsinore Track Attendance: Looks Poor.

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Edited Date/Time 9/10/2012 4:46pm
Looks like the attendance is mediocre to bad from the TV. Also saw someone post that they had a little over 8K people , but that wasn't official.

Something I have noticed, and I have been going to the races since 1971 or 1972, is that you CAN"T GET CLOSE TO THE TRACK. Watching the webcast, it looks like the stands are very far away (for MX bikes) from the track. I know that as a spectator, I can get closer to the cars at the Daytona 500 than at the MX nationals. Just a fact. Maybe if MX Sports look at this, the national attendance will be what it was back in the 70's.

Maybe, just maybe, all the hype about this sport turning the corner will happen.
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sir,
the 8k unoffical number was my guess from watching tv and having been to elsie hundred of times
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honda907 wrote:
Looks like the attendance is mediocre to bad from the TV. Also saw someone post that they had a little over 8K people , but that...
Looks like the attendance is mediocre to bad from the TV. Also saw someone post that they had a little over 8K people , but that wasn't official.

Something I have noticed, and I have been going to the races since 1971 or 1972, is that you CAN"T GET CLOSE TO THE TRACK. Watching the webcast, it looks like the stands are very far away (for MX bikes) from the track. I know that as a spectator, I can get closer to the cars at the Daytona 500 than at the MX nationals. Just a fact. Maybe if MX Sports look at this, the national attendance will be what it was back in the 70's.

Maybe, just maybe, all the hype about this sport turning the corner will happen.
I think the post about the "flies" kept everyone away Tongue . Personally, I was working on a deadline for Honda, for the SEMA show, and just couldn't get away. I even was offered 3 tickets and a VIP parking, and had to turn it down.
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I rode at GH today and then watched it on TV.

Way too hot to be baking out there in the sun today.
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I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in.
I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the campers can) but...not allowing to bring in food and water on a day like today???

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9/8/2012 6:09pm
mxjef wrote:
I rode at GH today and then watched it on TV.

Way too hot to be baking out there in the sun today.
What he said (except I didn't ride at GH too). I'm still sunburnt from Hangtown, lol
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mxjef wrote:
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in. I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the...
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in.
I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the campers can) but...not allowing to bring in food and water on a day like today???
How about $22.00 for two beers.
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Pdub wrote:
What he said (except I didn't ride at GH too). I'm still sunburnt from Hangtown, lol
I'm still sunburnt from Hangtown, lol

Laughing Hell MC even tweeted a pic of him leaving after the 1st motos...in what looked to be a helicopter Blink Livin' large like a King should.
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mxjef wrote:
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in. I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the...
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in.
I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the campers can) but...not allowing to bring in food and water on a day like today???
jasonv43 wrote:
How about $22.00 for two beers.
That is just ridicules. Would have cost a fortune to go today.

I had a few buddies with camping spots that had plenty of extra beers though.

I still chose to go ride today instead
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mxjef wrote:
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in. I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the...
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in.
I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the campers can) but...not allowing to bring in food and water on a day like today???
jasonv43 wrote:
How about $22.00 for two beers.
mxjef wrote:
That is just ridicules. Would have cost a fortune to go today. I had a few buddies with camping spots that had plenty of extra beers...
That is just ridicules. Would have cost a fortune to go today.

I had a few buddies with camping spots that had plenty of extra beers though.

I still chose to go ride today instead
If the camping spots are the same location next year that will be the way to go for sure.
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There was plenty of people there today. It was really hot, but it cooled down a bit for the 2nd Motos. I had a really good time.
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9/8/2012 8:02pm
mxjef wrote:
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in. I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the...
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in.
I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the campers can) but...not allowing to bring in food and water on a day like today???
Say whatever about the track but that is some serious bullshit! I don't even care about not getting beer in but you have to buy their $5 bottles of water on a smoking hot day?
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9/8/2012 8:50pm
mxjef wrote:
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in. I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the...
I also heard that a few people were pissed off because coolers were not allowed in.
I understand the bringing no beer in (although all the campers can) but...not allowing to bring in food and water on a day like today???
jasonv43 wrote:
How about $22.00 for two beers.
see thats just effed up. its not like they built some 300million dollar stadium and have to recover money to pay for it like other sports. dont they realize you buy twice as much if it was more affordable and its probably shit beer too
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You WERE allowed to bring water in. I brought food AND plenty of water in my back pack and had no problem doing so. The entrance said no bicycles or coolers but I couldn't tell you how many kids were on bikes because there were too many of them riding around. I also saw a big cooler or two here and there.
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C.Worthy wrote:
You WERE allowed to bring water in. I brought food AND plenty of water in my back pack and had no problem doing so. The entrance...
You WERE allowed to bring water in. I brought food AND plenty of water in my back pack and had no problem doing so. The entrance said no bicycles or coolers but I couldn't tell you how many kids were on bikes because there were too many of them riding around. I also saw a big cooler or two here and there.
The kids on bikes seem to be from the motorhomes inside the fence.

I was waiting for someone to cover back-packs.
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9/8/2012 9:30pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2012 9:35pm
I have gone to them since the mid 90's, but I may have gone to my last National in person this year. The rules were more strict (no coolers), the prices keep rising ($40 each to get in, $20 to park a mile away), the viewing gets worse (banners/10x10 tents) and the show gets shorter (4 practices, 2 qualifiers and 4 mains). It's not worth the money anymore... I'll let the tv record it while I'm doing something that isn't a waste of money in my eyes.

Going to Troy, Steel City, High Point and Red Bud in the late 90's, early 2000's was a thing of beauty... I hope they get back to those days. I was at Steel City this year and, not only was the crowd a joke, but the enthusiasm among the crowd was at an all time low in my eyes. It just seemed like everyone on the hill was either bored or didn't give a damn.
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9/9/2012 1:44pm
Cool Track layout, couldnt get closer enough (there were a few corners you were about 30 ft away)

Way to hot little to no shade (we all know that tho & elsinore doesnt control the weather. 2nd motos were alot cooler)


Cooler situation sucked ass. I loaded the backpack full of beer and waters but i had a soaking wet 40lb sack on my back after 20mins
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9/9/2012 1:52pm
D.C said first guesses are 20k.
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I heard it was nice and cloudy down there today. See we need to move the races back to Sundays.Tongue
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9/9/2012 2:05pm
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better viewing than being at the track.

I did go support the event/nationals but will not be attending Lake Elsinore next year.
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There was quite a bit of people there.... The facility is pretty damn big so everybody was spaced out..I mean everyone so on t.v. it looked like alot less people.. But the pits were packed and the HOT ass stands filled up for the 250f moto 1... It seemed to me that everybody was there for the 250f race, myself included lol.

It was just Ridiculously Hot... I'm quite sure a lot of people opted to stay home due to the heat... I was on top of the bleachers in the shade and it was still mega hot, besides a occasional breeze that would last all of 20 seconds.
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nc_mx_kid wrote:
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better...
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better viewing than being at the track.

I did go support the event/nationals but will not be attending Lake Elsinore next year.
You should try Washougal if you think Elsinore has bad spectating.
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nc_mx_kid wrote:
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better...
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better viewing than being at the track.

I did go support the event/nationals but will not be attending Lake Elsinore next year.
The best spot, was buy the truck track... pretty much the only spot were you got to see a exceptional amount of the track

Since the place, is soo flat and there aren't too many good observation points.... I think for next year, they should build a massive hill or something along the back side of the track... (by the pits) and place the bleachers ontop of that so people can see more of the track.
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9/9/2012 2:16pm
Skip376 wrote:
You should try Washougal if you think Elsinore has bad spectating.
Yea dude, I feel bad for you guys, on tv im like whoever is on horsepower hill gets hosed for like 90% of the track lol
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9/9/2012 2:21pm
You guys would like the weather better right now...it's actually raining pretty good.
9/9/2012 9:50pm
I hate that my first post back here is a complaint, however, as a paying customer, I wish I could get some of my money back!

I flew in for this race and purchased a shade tent, chairs and cooler filled with only water.When I got to the track, I purchased my tickets with no long wait and headed into the race. I was immediately told that I was not allowed to bring in any "shade". I was advised I could purchase an umbrella inside!

I was also told no coolers. This was at about 10:30AM and just above 90 degrees. I was told you can purchase water inside ($5.00 for water and beer for $10 a can!!) I had planned to be there 6+ hours in the blistering sun...... with no water?

To top it off, there was absolutely no shade (except 100s of other tents, that were mysteriously allowed). Some palefaces actually cook in the sun!

I proceeded to the grandstands area where you could pay an additional $5 to sit directly in the sun and not require hospitalization (for heat stroke) for at least 4 hours. Add another $25 and you could purchase a $5 umbrella!

After paying for tickets, tent, cooler (unused), food and drinks inside, grandstands fee.....I spent almost $400. Not including airfare, hotel and rental car.

If I were allowed to bring my tent in and not need a second mortgage for a few bottles of water and some food, I may have had a chance to enjoy it, but to me it was a complete waste of money.

Not to just bash the event, the new facilities were impressive.

I would probably not go back to a race here as a spectator, but may be a vendor next year selling sunscreen, sombreros, sunglasses and umbrellas....perhaps straight tap water for $2.00 a cup!

Hope others enjoyed it more than I did!
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9/9/2012 9:54pm
Race was on tv for free...get with the program...oh and glen helen has shade
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9/9/2012 10:49pm
nc_mx_kid wrote:
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better...
WORST track i've every been to for spectating. MUCH better idea to stay indoors in the cool and watch the TV coverage as it has better viewing than being at the track.

I did go support the event/nationals but will not be attending Lake Elsinore next year.
Skip376 wrote:
You should try Washougal if you think Elsinore has bad spectating.
get off yer lazy ass and do some walking around.it aint supercross
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9/9/2012 11:02pm
Skip376 wrote:
D.C said first guesses are 20k.
If that is the case then a big chunk of them were hiding from the cameras.

Funny, with all the different posts on here, some saying it was the worst race they haver ever been to and the the other side saying it was the best motocross race every held. I would think it was somewhere between the two.
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9/10/2012 12:33am
There were more than 8K people who brought in trailers and motor homes.
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Just curious...if you go to a NFL game, do they allow you to bring in your cooler?

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