Is it just a coincidence.....................?

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5/28/2012 10:22am
Uncleof2 wrote:
They only raced against each other once and they both started at the same starting line and ended at the same finish line. RV1 is 1-0...
They only raced against each other once and they both started at the same starting line and ended at the same finish line.
RV1 is 1-0 against RC4. Everything you say is hypothetical because of your hero worship, how is that any different than
Outsider. RC4 is the GOAT and because of his injuries RV1 won't ever beat his records, but plenty of people have compared
RV1 to RC4 including the GOAT himself, so why do you have to be so bitter, are you related to RC4?
Goat himself said Stewart is tfmop. lmfao
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5/28/2012 10:25am
Saying something like, "I think RV was afraid to race JS outdoors so he faked a knee injury" is almost as dumb as saying JS only decided to race because 75% of the competition is out.
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5/28/2012 10:28am
Park Boys wrote:
RC had 28 wins form 2000 to 02. RV has 4 wins from 2009 to 11. Dont even think of comparing them again unless some stats...
RC had 28 wins form 2000 to 02.
RV has 4 wins from 2009 to 11.

Dont even think of comparing them again unless some stats change......
But but but but RV wasn't racing back then. LMAO
Outsider wrote:
lmao? Really? I love the way trailer park guy pulls out the absolute worst period of time for Villo to draw some type of comparison. BTW...
lmao? Really?

I love the way trailer park guy pulls out the absolute worst period of time for Villo to draw some type of comparison. BTW, I've never compared the two as there isn't a comparison.

I can say that RV has actually beaten RC... at an MXdN, on a smaller bike no less! But, but, RC fell over right! "LMAO"
Worst peroid of time? I am comparing there first 3 years of them in 450MX

Are you actually saying RV is better than RC, because of a race were RC had a virus had not raced in months?
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5/28/2012 10:29am
Sherwood wrote:
Saying something like, "I think RV was afraid to race JS outdoors so he faked a knee injury" is almost as dumb as saying JS only...
Saying something like, "I think RV was afraid to race JS outdoors so he faked a knee injury" is almost as dumb as saying JS only decided to race because 75% of the competition is out.
I think Ryan found out about Stewart racing Nationals before Stewart found out about Ryan injuring himself. lol

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5/28/2012 10:31am
mx 219 wrote:
Besides Kongols, RC went down first lap and was dead last...came from dead last to 3rd.
Uncleof2 wrote:
So your one of those guys that doesn't think it is straight up when your guy falls and doesn't win.
LOL ur trying to hard.
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5/28/2012 10:33am
Uncleof2 wrote:
Nope, not bitter at all. I am glad to see JS7 out there racing after a 3 year absence. I am bummed that RV1 can't be...
Nope, not bitter at all. I am glad to see JS7 out there racing after a 3 year absence. I am bummed that RV1 can't be out there
and racing with him. I will be honest and say I can't stand all the drama, but I'm enjoying the racing between JS7 and RD5 and
I think it will only get better.
Uncleof2......

I don't take anything here seriously. I can't imagine anyone not being happy to see James Stewart one of the top motocross riders of all time back racing in the sport.

It's very unfortunate that arguably the 5 fastest guy's on earth aren't out there doing battle. And also unfortunate we'll probably never see that because of the INSANE speed that these bikes go and the " freestyle " type tracks that they have to race and train on 80% time... but that's a whole other story, that this sports media won't address. Fack... Even the rednecks of NASCAR figured it out..... Peace out.
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5/28/2012 10:36am
TerryK wrote:
This ^^^

Can't you fuckers just enjoy the racing? All the conspiracy theorists are bringing the rest of us down.
Clutchy wrote:
What conspiracy...???? It's an honest question. That could reasonably be thought after the last 3 years of how James approached the sport. You act as though...
What conspiracy...???? It's an honest question.

That could reasonably be thought after the last 3 years of how James approached the sport. You act as though these guys can't be full of shit in a sport that's full of shit. Stop being a drama queen.

James is the one that's skirted the competition in years gone by and now that 75% of the top competition is out, He shows up all ready to race for free ( Which is complete bullshit ) doing it for the fans and the love he has for the sport. Like he's a hippie from woodstock.

Stop calling people names like a third grader and who said anything about not enjoying the races....?

P.S... I never once said that I actually believe that, maybe I do maybe I don't. I do know it's possible.
Sherwood wrote:
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?... Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages...
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?...

Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages that show Stewart was in to race the outdoors the race BEFORE RV blew his knee out. STFU and move on.
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to
ride them. I think that some of the confusion and questioning has come from different statements from those who should
have known. In a interview AFTER Seattle SX JGR team manager Jeremey Albrecht said that JS7 was still under contract
with JGR and he had until May 1 to let them know if he was riding Outdoors, and he had not let them know. Matthes said
he knew, and DC says he knew, and James never came out and committed until after Seattle so that is where the confusion
comes. Does it really matter, he is racing and winning and happy and his fans are happy and his haters have something to
complain about and the whole Vital scene has been saved so why can't we all just ENJOY THE RACING.
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5/28/2012 10:39am
Even though I tried to avoid getting sucked into the vortex of any of the JS7 Threads on here, but...here are some simple facts on the matter (wish I could have used cardboard paper and crayon for some of the folks that post on here): JS7 is riding well right now regardless of who is lining up beside him. He is winning, he is not crashing. His bike looks like it is working like it is supposed to. James is in good spirits and has a good attitude. James looks like his fitness is good. Are there others out there that could win the outdoor title? Sure, there are plenty of fast racers out there that could get the outdoor title this year, but guess what? So could James. He is riding that good right now. He looks confident, fit and fast and the Suzuki looks good. Is there anything on here that could be misunderstood? If so, lets start the hate mail now...
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5/28/2012 10:41am
James said he was out of his contract with jgr prior to Seattle.

Must we dissect and bitch about everything ?
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5/28/2012 10:44am Edited Date/Time 5/28/2012 10:46am
Uncleof2 wrote:
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to ride...
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to
ride them. I think that some of the confusion and questioning has come from different statements from those who should
have known. In a interview AFTER Seattle SX JGR team manager Jeremey Albrecht said that JS7 was still under contract
with JGR and he had until May 1 to let them know if he was riding Outdoors, and he had not let them know. Matthes said
he knew, and DC says he knew, and James never came out and committed until after Seattle so that is where the confusion
comes. Does it really matter, he is racing and winning and happy and his fans are happy and his haters have something to
complain about and the whole Vital scene has been saved so why can't we all just ENJOY THE RACING.
Stewart isn`t racing JGR Yamaha. Few weeks before Seattle he was in talks with Suzuki and as soon as that deal was done he said he`s racing. Albreht didn`t know because Stewart was to race Suzuki. He was out of JGR right after SaltLake.
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5/28/2012 10:45am
Sherwood wrote:
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?... Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages...
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?...

Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages that show Stewart was in to race the outdoors the race BEFORE RV blew his knee out. STFU and move on.
Hey Buttplug..... I didn't call James anything. I said " like "... And unless those texts where from james himself, they were just making educated guess's, like the rest of the vitards.

But I did call you a Buttplug, Buttplug.
5/28/2012 10:47am
Clutchy wrote:
What conspiracy...???? It's an honest question. That could reasonably be thought after the last 3 years of how James approached the sport. You act as though...
What conspiracy...???? It's an honest question.

That could reasonably be thought after the last 3 years of how James approached the sport. You act as though these guys can't be full of shit in a sport that's full of shit. Stop being a drama queen.

James is the one that's skirted the competition in years gone by and now that 75% of the top competition is out, He shows up all ready to race for free ( Which is complete bullshit ) doing it for the fans and the love he has for the sport. Like he's a hippie from woodstock.

Stop calling people names like a third grader and who said anything about not enjoying the races....?

P.S... I never once said that I actually believe that, maybe I do maybe I don't. I do know it's possible.
Sherwood wrote:
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?... Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages...
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?...

Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages that show Stewart was in to race the outdoors the race BEFORE RV blew his knee out. STFU and move on.
Uncleof2 wrote:
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to ride...
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to
ride them. I think that some of the confusion and questioning has come from different statements from those who should
have known. In a interview AFTER Seattle SX JGR team manager Jeremey Albrecht said that JS7 was still under contract
with JGR and he had until May 1 to let them know if he was riding Outdoors, and he had not let them know. Matthes said
he knew, and DC says he knew, and James never came out and committed until after Seattle so that is where the confusion
comes. Does it really matter, he is racing and winning and happy and his fans are happy and his haters have something to
complain about and the whole Vital scene has been saved so why can't we all just ENJOY THE RACING.
You have brought it (JS's contract and when he decide to race outdoors) up more than once so evidently it matters to you. You seem to have some insider info or think you do or maybe you are confusing that maybe JS had until May 1 to let them know if he still wanted to be a part of JGR.

I agree with your last sentence and know where you fall.
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5/28/2012 10:54am
Harry_Gray wrote:
Even though I tried to avoid getting sucked into the vortex of any of the JS7 Threads on here, but...here are some simple facts on the...
Even though I tried to avoid getting sucked into the vortex of any of the JS7 Threads on here, but...here are some simple facts on the matter (wish I could have used cardboard paper and crayon for some of the folks that post on here): JS7 is riding well right now regardless of who is lining up beside him. He is winning, he is not crashing. His bike looks like it is working like it is supposed to. James is in good spirits and has a good attitude. James looks like his fitness is good. Are there others out there that could win the outdoor title? Sure, there are plenty of fast racers out there that could get the outdoor title this year, but guess what? So could James. He is riding that good right now. He looks confident, fit and fast and the Suzuki looks good. Is there anything on here that could be misunderstood? If so, lets start the hate mail now...
BLAH BLAH BLAH...........hehehe................ Welcome to the sandbox of special kid's.

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5/28/2012 12:45pm
Sherwood wrote:
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?... Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages...
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?...

Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages that show Stewart was in to race the outdoors the race BEFORE RV blew his knee out. STFU and move on.
Clutchy wrote:
Hey Buttplug..... I didn't call James anything. I said " like "... And unless those texts where from james himself, they were just making educated guess's...
Hey Buttplug..... I didn't call James anything. I said " like "... And unless those texts where from james himself, they were just making educated guess's, like the rest of the vitards.

But I did call you a Buttplug, Buttplug.
Well cunty you remind me of the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz. do you run around wishing you only had a brain?
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5/28/2012 12:55pm
Sherwood wrote:
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?... Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages...
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?...

Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages that show Stewart was in to race the outdoors the race BEFORE RV blew his knee out. STFU and move on.
Clutchy wrote:
Hey Buttplug..... I didn't call James anything. I said " like "... And unless those texts where from james himself, they were just making educated guess's...
Hey Buttplug..... I didn't call James anything. I said " like "... And unless those texts where from james himself, they were just making educated guess's, like the rest of the vitards.

But I did call you a Buttplug, Buttplug.
Sherwood wrote:
Well cunty you remind me of the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz. do you run around wishing you only had a brain?
LMAO! Oh boy, gems like this keep me coming back. You guys deliverLaughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Clutchy, Sherwood is the self appointed
spokesman and moderator for all
thing pertaining to Kissing Kissing *~~ JanES StEWarT~~*Kissing Kissing .

Please be careful mocking him. He appears to be in denial and very fragile.
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5/28/2012 2:06pm
Uncle2 is correct..... RV2 is 1-0 vs. RC4. MXDN when RV destroyed the world.

I think its crazy to compare past greats with current greats. The sport has changed..... tracks, competition, bikes, fitness, foods.

You think RC4 is a guarantee win over:

Bob Hannah
Ricky Johnson
JMB
Johnny 'O
RV
RD
CR
JBS
Decoster
Everts
Jeff Ward
Stanton
McGrath
Barnett
Glover
db
Lechein

ALL BEING EQUAL. I think it would come to the final turn. All of these guys in their prime were beasts
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bd wrote:
Uncle2 is correct..... RV2 is 1-0 vs. RC4. MXDN when RV destroyed the world. I think its crazy to compare past greats with current greats. The...
Uncle2 is correct..... RV2 is 1-0 vs. RC4. MXDN when RV destroyed the world.

I think its crazy to compare past greats with current greats. The sport has changed..... tracks, competition, bikes, fitness, foods.

You think RC4 is a guarantee win over:

Bob Hannah
Ricky Johnson
JMB
Johnny 'O
RV
RD
CR
JBS
Decoster
Everts
Jeff Ward
Stanton
McGrath
Barnett
Glover
db
Lechein

ALL BEING EQUAL. I think it would come to the final turn. All of these guys in their prime were beasts
For a MX race its not a sure thing, for a title it is.
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5/28/2012 2:52pm Edited Date/Time 5/28/2012 2:53pm
There's a BIG difference between RC4 and those past champs... It's not just enough that RC has TWO Perfect [24 - 0] seasons... ALONG with, a [22 - 2] Perfect overall season BUT... He is [10 - 0], UNDEFEATED MX Career!

Let's see someone live up to, exceed, that kind of stature of greatness!

At the same time... I'm happy to watch the current group of fast guys for what they are, badasses Wink All of 'em.
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5/28/2012 3:38pm
Uncleof2 wrote:
They only raced against each other once and they both started at the same starting line and ended at the same finish line. RV1 is 1-0...
They only raced against each other once and they both started at the same starting line and ended at the same finish line.
RV1 is 1-0 against RC4. Everything you say is hypothetical because of your hero worship, how is that any different than
Outsider. RC4 is the GOAT and because of his injuries RV1 won't ever beat his records, but plenty of people have compared
RV1 to RC4 including the GOAT himself, so why do you have to be so bitter, are you related to RC4?
kongols wrote:
Goat himself said Stewart is tfmop. lmfao
Yes, I believe he did say that.
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5/28/2012 3:46pm
Sherwood wrote:
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?... Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages...
You say don't call people names and then say Stewarts like a hippy from woodstock?...

Guyb and Matthes have already told you they have text messages that show Stewart was in to race the outdoors the race BEFORE RV blew his knee out. STFU and move on.
Uncleof2 wrote:
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to ride...
First of all, let me say it again, I'm really glad that JS7 has decided to race the Outdoors no matter when he decided to
ride them. I think that some of the confusion and questioning has come from different statements from those who should
have known. In a interview AFTER Seattle SX JGR team manager Jeremey Albrecht said that JS7 was still under contract
with JGR and he had until May 1 to let them know if he was riding Outdoors, and he had not let them know. Matthes said
he knew, and DC says he knew, and James never came out and committed until after Seattle so that is where the confusion
comes. Does it really matter, he is racing and winning and happy and his fans are happy and his haters have something to
complain about and the whole Vital scene has been saved so why can't we all just ENJOY THE RACING.
You have brought it (JS's contract and when he decide to race outdoors) up more than once so evidently it matters to you. You seem to...
You have brought it (JS's contract and when he decide to race outdoors) up more than once so evidently it matters to you. You seem to have some insider info or think you do or maybe you are confusing that maybe JS had until May 1 to let them know if he still wanted to be a part of JGR.

I agree with your last sentence and know where you fall.
I really don't think I have, but if you say so it must be. I obviously have no insider information only what I read
in an interview that was posted on this site. I'm glad we can agree on something, but i don't get "you know where
I fall." Do you mean I'm enjoying the racing, but I wish Ryan was out there racing with them, if that is what you mean
then ok.
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5/28/2012 3:49pm
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor and not compare the two. I will say I don't think we have seen Villo at his peak yet, he's still getting faster
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Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor...
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor and not compare the two. I will say I don't think we have seen Villo at his peak yet, he's still getting faster
Hey, Chris didn't that part timer beat another pretty good rider several times that same year in the Nationals?Wink
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5/28/2012 4:08pm Edited Date/Time 5/28/2012 4:08pm
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor...
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor and not compare the two. I will say I don't think we have seen Villo at his peak yet, he's still getting faster
Uncleof2 wrote:
Hey, Chris didn't that part timer beat another pretty good rider several times that same year in the Nationals?Wink
There was quite a big gap between the last Nat he raced, whatever the 6th one was, and the MXdN. I highly doubt the time between was the typical RC moto program and was more getting in car racing mode. Not slight to RV Unc, I'm gutted he's not out there. Like I said, I dont think we have seen prime RV yet. which is kind of scary for my guy Dungey and the rest of the field
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5/28/2012 4:18pm Edited Date/Time 5/28/2012 4:22pm
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor...
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor and not compare the two. I will say I don't think we have seen Villo at his peak yet, he's still getting faster
Uncleof2 wrote:
Hey, Chris didn't that part timer beat another pretty good rider several times that same year in the Nationals?Wink
There was quite a big gap between the last Nat he raced, whatever the 6th one was, and the MXdN. I highly doubt the time between...
There was quite a big gap between the last Nat he raced, whatever the 6th one was, and the MXdN. I highly doubt the time between was the typical RC moto program and was more getting in car racing mode. Not slight to RV Unc, I'm gutted he's not out there. Like I said, I dont think we have seen prime RV yet. which is kind of scary for my guy Dungey and the rest of the field
Unc. needs to ask Ryan who gave up his great gate pick...so that Ryan would be at a little bit more ofadvantage that day at Budds (The Goat I believe). Smile
RC had a really ,really,really bad day that day and RV was the BEST in the world that day,loved watching him smoke the world.
However, if or when RV passes/ties/comes close the GOAT's accomplishments ,I shall bow down to him.
Until then he is beneath the GOAT in my book (FastEddy's school of understanding MX History Chapter 11 paragraph 3)
But RV is still one hell of dam fantastic rider/racer/dirt biking dude and i'm happy to see the success he has achieved so far and I hope he keeps doing well!
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5/28/2012 4:23pm
There was quite a big gap between the last Nat he raced, whatever the 6th one was, and the MXdN. I highly doubt the time between...
There was quite a big gap between the last Nat he raced, whatever the 6th one was, and the MXdN. I highly doubt the time between was the typical RC moto program and was more getting in car racing mode. Not slight to RV Unc, I'm gutted he's not out there. Like I said, I dont think we have seen prime RV yet. which is kind of scary for my guy Dungey and the rest of the field
Yes, knowing what we know about RC, I'm sure he barely even trained for the Motocross des focking Nations. ]sarcasm

I don't think anyone is comparing RV and RC... just an interesting thought as to how they would stack up in their prime (which RV is just entering, imo)

Problem around here is, you can't even bring up a thought without about a bunch of dickheads jumping to conclusions. Not talking about you here Chris, just in general
5/28/2012 4:32pm
Why hasn't this thread been sent to the dumbgeon yet? What a pathetic fucking fishing expedition on a topic that was already beaten to death before the season started.

If everyone comes back healthy next year and they beat the lap times that Dungey and Stewart did at Hangtown and Freestone, I'll eat my words. My guess is they won't.

Dungey and Stewart go around Freestone, in the heat, wide open for 2 motos of 30 plus 2 and in the second one they are never more than a couple of seconds apart, and all the lame fucktards come out and say "what if?" Did you not just watch that epic moto? Do you not have a clue how fast they were going?
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Outsider wrote:
Yes, knowing what we know about RC, I'm sure he barely even trained for the Motocross des focking Nations. ]sarcasm I don't think anyone is comparing...
Yes, knowing what we know about RC, I'm sure he barely even trained for the Motocross des focking Nations. ]sarcasm

I don't think anyone is comparing RV and RC... just an interesting thought as to how they would stack up in their prime (which RV is just entering, imo)

Problem around here is, you can't even bring up a thought without about a bunch of dickheads jumping to conclusions. Not talking about you here Chris, just in general
Yeah I'm not sure how this thread even took this turn LOL! The premise of the thread is stupid to begin with. Can't just be happy we have 2 top competitors out there instead of one. Typical Vital, James is a bum if he doesn't race and if he does he's a cherry picker. I think Clutchy is a dirty racist. J/k let's not go there. Seriously Outsider I wasnt slighting RV, I have really come to like him the past couple seasons. Even as a Dungey fan, how can't you cheer Villo? Fucking guy is an animal and leaves it all on the table. I was expecting something special this outdoor season, fucking stupidcross robs us again
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Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor...
Woohoo RV beat RC who was just a part timer in a one-off race. Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch. Let's do Villo a favor and not compare the two. I will say I don't think we have seen Villo at his peak yet, he's still getting faster
"Prime RC would eat Villo for lunch."

Sorry but have to strongly disagree. RC was an animal on the track. I see the same thing in RV.

While I feel JS is the fastest dude we have ever seen on a dirtcycle and could have surpassed ALL records on almost pure talent alone. If not for the injuries I think RV could have come close to RC's outdoor record, not so sure about SX.
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