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Im stoked... This is going to be a good season.
dirtnapper wrote:
Thats what everyone said about the SX season....................:( Hope its a gooder. And anyone who thinks RV goes 24 and 0 - :laugh: WILL NEVER HAPEN...
Thats what everyone said about the SX season....................Sad


Hope its a gooder.

And anyone who thinks RV goes 24 and 0 - Laughing WILL NEVER HAPEN! ( unless of course Dungey, Townley, Milsaaps, Brayton, Weimer and Metty crash out..............)
I just hope it's More Better.
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Wilson and Poto

*Solid pick of the year is going to be Rattray....Stamp it!
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I never bought into Mookie Fever but how will he do outdoors?
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4/12/2012 10:33am
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I never bought into Mookie Fever but how will he do outdoors?
Not sure, but today's his day in the countdown

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4/12/2012 10:53am
I went in 76.

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4/12/2012 11:24am
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Wilson and Poto

*Solid pick of the year is going to be Rattray....Stamp it!
Yyyyyup.
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4/12/2012 12:10pm
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Wilson and Poto

*Solid pick of the year is going to be Rattray....Stamp it!
TeamGreen wrote:
Yyyyyup.
I like the DW pick. Not sure what Ratters will do since he is coming off an injury.
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Will the KTM be better suited for Outdoors? Will Stewart be on the new Husaberg? Will Townley keep it upright for the whole series? Will Baggett...
Will the KTM be better suited for Outdoors?

Will Stewart be on the new Husaberg?

Will Townley keep it upright for the whole series?

Will Baggett and KROC take it to Bam Bam?

Will Wilson & Durham be in the mix?

Will Short be on JGR?
Shorty is still on the honda outdoors.
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Kyle Regal

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This guy...

jasonv43
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This guy... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/9854/photos/57709/s1600_5430335928_b86929e340_b.jpg?1334329869[/img]
This guy...

Really like this guy. You never hear anything bad about him and he just does work every week. Hope he has a great outdoor season.
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Double D

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For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia, Baggett, Bogle, and Tomac will sprinkle in wins too, but for 24 motos, it'll be those three separating themselves.

On the 450 I think Dungey will give Villopoto all he can handle, but Villopoto still separates himself at about round 9 and secures his fourth consecutive championship. I won't bet against a guy who has yet to lose an outdoor championship.

Then Dungey and Villopoto will go to the MXoN and dominate, but Baggett/Tomac/Barcia will have two awful motos and cause the US team to get 2nd.

Just my opinion/prediction of course.
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What day are we on?



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TDeath21 wrote:
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia...
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia, Baggett, Bogle, and Tomac will sprinkle in wins too, but for 24 motos, it'll be those three separating themselves.

On the 450 I think Dungey will give Villopoto all he can handle, but Villopoto still separates himself at about round 9 and secures his fourth consecutive championship. I won't bet against a guy who has yet to lose an outdoor championship.

Then Dungey and Villopoto will go to the MXoN and dominate, but Baggett/Tomac/Barcia will have two awful motos and cause the US team to get 2nd.

Just my opinion/prediction of course.
I didnt even bother watching the 450sx just 250's this week. I see the SX series as foreplay for the real racing

X2 Your right there MM is super smooth outdoors, no idea who will prevail but do know im going to enjoy finding out Smile

Just hoping RD is on the same speed as RV or its going to be one boring 450 season. Definitely 250AMA & 450GP's are going to be the exciting ones to watch.

Ha ha have some faith you will win like you always do Sick lol but not sure on the domination !
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4/16/2012 8:06pm
TDeath21 wrote:
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia...
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia, Baggett, Bogle, and Tomac will sprinkle in wins too, but for 24 motos, it'll be those three separating themselves.

On the 450 I think Dungey will give Villopoto all he can handle, but Villopoto still separates himself at about round 9 and secures his fourth consecutive championship. I won't bet against a guy who has yet to lose an outdoor championship.

Then Dungey and Villopoto will go to the MXoN and dominate, but Baggett/Tomac/Barcia will have two awful motos and cause the US team to get 2nd.

Just my opinion/prediction of course.
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I didnt even bother watching the 450sx just 250's this week. I see the SX series as foreplay for the real racing X2 Your right there...
I didnt even bother watching the 450sx just 250's this week. I see the SX series as foreplay for the real racing

X2 Your right there MM is super smooth outdoors, no idea who will prevail but do know im going to enjoy finding out Smile

Just hoping RD is on the same speed as RV or its going to be one boring 450 season. Definitely 250AMA & 450GP's are going to be the exciting ones to watch.

Ha ha have some faith you will win like you always do Sick lol but not sure on the domination !
Agreed there. I think the 250 class over here will be a little more exciting than your 450 class, but both will be lots of fun to watch for sure. As far as the MXoN, I'll obviously pull hard for the US, but our 250 rider scares me, especially at the sandiest track in the world. This year will be our highest chance of losing since our C team of 09 for sure.
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TDeath21 wrote:
Agreed there. I think the 250 class over here will be a little more exciting than your 450 class, but both will be lots of fun...
Agreed there. I think the 250 class over here will be a little more exciting than your 450 class, but both will be lots of fun to watch for sure. As far as the MXoN, I'll obviously pull hard for the US, but our 250 rider scares me, especially at the sandiest track in the world. This year will be our highest chance of losing since our C team of 09 for sure.
That could very well be the case if no one can challenge TC we shall see who has done there homework next week on a hardpack track. To be fair I have always enjoyed the smaller classes for MX racing, especially when your track side and you see them wring every last BHP out of 125s & 250f's. Lots more excitement than feathering the throttle on a 500 or 450.

Well i thought last year you really had some luck on your side with France imploding. But felt real sorry for Baggett, I would go with him again as he knows what to expect and an awesome rider on his day. Or Even Osborne ! I know he is not that well known back home but have watched him in deep sand lots, The track where he injured himself is only 15min drive for me
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4/16/2012 9:19pm
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That could very well be the case if no one can challenge TC we shall see who has done there homework next week on a hardpack...
That could very well be the case if no one can challenge TC we shall see who has done there homework next week on a hardpack track. To be fair I have always enjoyed the smaller classes for MX racing, especially when your track side and you see them wring every last BHP out of 125s & 250f's. Lots more excitement than feathering the throttle on a 500 or 450.

Well i thought last year you really had some luck on your side with France imploding. But felt real sorry for Baggett, I would go with him again as he knows what to expect and an awesome rider on his day. Or Even Osborne ! I know he is not that well known back home but have watched him in deep sand lots, The track where he injured himself is only 15min drive for me
I would much rather see a guy like Osborne who has ridden the track and will give me one top 10/15 score and let the Ryans win it over someone who has a high likelihood of blowing both motos in the sand like the other three options may do. The US has the luxury of telling the 250 guy don't lose it, as opposed to all three having to go out and do really well like other countries have to. It's a bummer Osborne got injured. I think he could have been a solid 2nd place rider this year. Nobody had anything for Herlings though, in my opinion anyway.
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4/16/2012 9:31pm
tbanks wrote:
Wilson and Poto

*Solid pick of the year is going to be Rattray....Stamp it!
$100 flight on Allegiant Air, rental car food and a gate ticket. I can spend more on a weekend for dinner and a movie with the wife and kids. Already booked my flight.

RV is a no brainer, but the lites is a little more complex. Bagget, Tomac, Wilson are pretty good choices for top 3. Everyone else will be fighting it out behind them but I do think there are a lot more chances for the "lesser or less consistent riders"riders in the 250 class to make it to the podium this year. This for sure will be the more competitive class and probably the most fun to watch. Lets hope we don't have a bam bam/musquin incident in the first race this year.
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4/16/2012 10:15pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2012 10:17pm
TDeath21 wrote:
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia...
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia, Baggett, Bogle, and Tomac will sprinkle in wins too, but for 24 motos, it'll be those three separating themselves.

On the 450 I think Dungey will give Villopoto all he can handle, but Villopoto still separates himself at about round 9 and secures his fourth consecutive championship. I won't bet against a guy who has yet to lose an outdoor championship.

Then Dungey and Villopoto will go to the MXoN and dominate, but Baggett/Tomac/Barcia will have two awful motos and cause the US team to get 2nd.

Just my opinion/prediction of course.
i really doubt baggetts going to just "sprinkle in wins" him and wilson were the ones trading motos all summer. and baggett many times running down the front runners from pretty far back. and rattray "springkling in wins". roczen and musquin are pretty big question for you to be touting them as part of the main title show. PC is just as strong if not strong with durham now. i see bogle as geicos best chance at success over the summer.
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i really doubt baggetts going to just "sprinkle in wins" him and wilson were the ones trading motos all summer. and baggett many times running down...
i really doubt baggetts going to just "sprinkle in wins" him and wilson were the ones trading motos all summer. and baggett many times running down the front runners from pretty far back. and rattray "springkling in wins". roczen and musquin are pretty big question for you to be touting them as part of the main title show. PC is just as strong if not strong with durham now. i see bogle as geicos best chance at success over the summer.
Baggett needs consistency. He has yet to prove to me he has it for any championship. The field is deeper this year so I don't see Baggett running everyone down again. He needs starts, something he struggled with last year.

Roczen and Musquin a question mark? Musquin is a two time GP champion, did pretty good at Hangtown (after a first turn crash in 1 moto), and pretty good at the last few races of the year. Remember he had two serious injuries last year, one of which was Barcia's fault, not his. Roczen dominated the GPs last year and was the top 250 guy at the MXoN. I don't see them as being a question at all. They'll both be right towards the front all year. Durham will be up there too. He might get a win. He was awesome last year on the Eleven 10 Mods team.

Like I said, a lot of guys will get wins, but as far as wins and being in the championship hunt all year, I think Musquin, Wilson, and Roczen will separate themselves towards the end of the series.
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TDeath21 wrote:
Baggett needs consistency. He has yet to prove to me he has it for any championship. The field is deeper this year so I don't see...
Baggett needs consistency. He has yet to prove to me he has it for any championship. The field is deeper this year so I don't see Baggett running everyone down again. He needs starts, something he struggled with last year.

Roczen and Musquin a question mark? Musquin is a two time GP champion, did pretty good at Hangtown (after a first turn crash in 1 moto), and pretty good at the last few races of the year. Remember he had two serious injuries last year, one of which was Barcia's fault, not his. Roczen dominated the GPs last year and was the top 250 guy at the MXoN. I don't see them as being a question at all. They'll both be right towards the front all year. Durham will be up there too. He might get a win. He was awesome last year on the Eleven 10 Mods team.

Like I said, a lot of guys will get wins, but as far as wins and being in the championship hunt all year, I think Musquin, Wilson, and Roczen will separate themselves towards the end of the series.
i dont think a start is nearly as important outdoors as it is indoors. last year was baggetts first full outdoor season. and the field isn't much deeper than it was last year. there are only 2 additions(bogle,roczen).and other slight changes like durham on PC and tickle in the 450 class.musquin and roczens gp title are proof of speed but that doesnt make them sure wins or even contenders for the title.even when musquin was racing last year i remember good results (2 podiums) but i dont think he has baggett or wilson matched on speed.

his last 2 races he got 3rd and hes more consistent than tomac who i think is faster than him. only time will tell and hopefully hes healthy all summer so we can find out where he truely stands.
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i dont think a start is nearly as important outdoors as it is indoors. last year was baggetts first full outdoor season. and the field isn't...
i dont think a start is nearly as important outdoors as it is indoors. last year was baggetts first full outdoor season. and the field isn't much deeper than it was last year. there are only 2 additions(bogle,roczen).and other slight changes like durham on PC and tickle in the 450 class.musquin and roczens gp title are proof of speed but that doesnt make them sure wins or even contenders for the title.even when musquin was racing last year i remember good results (2 podiums) but i dont think he has baggett or wilson matched on speed.

his last 2 races he got 3rd and hes more consistent than tomac who i think is faster than him. only time will tell and hopefully hes healthy all summer so we can find out where he truely stands.
Yeah I guess we will find out. I just hope everyone stays healthy so we can all have a fun series to watch. I'm hoping the outdoors make up for the injuries we had indoors.
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Lites... Bam Bam and Roczen and all the East boys can get a head start on their outdoor stuff now. I hope Justin is consistent this year and competes for the title. Can't wait to see a healthy Roczen in action either. And of course Wilson will be super tough so those are my top three.

MX... I hope to hell RD5 can make life difficult for RV2 (and I am confident he will). and the third guy is ?????????


All I know is I can't wait for another summer of crazy battles at the Nationals and I can't wait to go to Redddddddddddddddddddddddddddd Buddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wilson is gonna be even stronger this year than last year IMO. Really hope Kenny and Marvin take it to him though. And I really want Tomac to be up there battling with them an all. As for 450's how can anyone bet against 'poto at this point.. And The MXoN will be like a walk in the park for Herlings if he's healthy, but America are too strong at this point to really lose it. Unless something really bad happens that is....
4/17/2012 11:23am
TDeath21 wrote:
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia...
For the 250 class, a lot of people seem to forget Musquin, and I have no idea why. I think it'll be the Wilson/Musquin/Roczen show. Barcia, Baggett, Bogle, and Tomac will sprinkle in wins too, but for 24 motos, it'll be those three separating themselves.

On the 450 I think Dungey will give Villopoto all he can handle, but Villopoto still separates himself at about round 9 and secures his fourth consecutive championship. I won't bet against a guy who has yet to lose an outdoor championship.

Then Dungey and Villopoto will go to the MXoN and dominate, but Baggett/Tomac/Barcia will have two awful motos and cause the US team to get 2nd.

Just my opinion/prediction of course.
I'd agree about musquin being a contender- musquin and roczen are both ex world champs (well, kens the current champ) so they know how to win titles and will both be fast and consistent- wilson the same, he's champ and knows how to win titles. I'd add rattray to that group too- he will be up there all year, and very consistent.
Baggett will be fast but has yet to prove himself to be consistent- i think he will win a couple of races. I dont think barcia will contend for the title.

I think RD will be alot closer to RV than he was in supercross, alot of people forget just how good dungey is outdoors- it will be close betwween those two. As for the rest of them- cant see anybody else in that group being in championship contention. Hopefully grant will be able to rediscover old form, he's got the talent but its a while since he's mixed it up with those boys at the front. Stewart wont turn up (again)

There is absolutely no way RD and RV will dominate at the MXDN!! I hope one of them can make a race of it with herlings, but i dont think anyone will be able to get near jeffrey round there! Having said that, USA will still most likely win as they have the strongest team collectively. Osborne would be a great pick for the 250 ride
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I'd agree about musquin being a contender- musquin and roczen are both ex world champs (well, kens the current champ) so they know how to win...
I'd agree about musquin being a contender- musquin and roczen are both ex world champs (well, kens the current champ) so they know how to win titles and will both be fast and consistent- wilson the same, he's champ and knows how to win titles. I'd add rattray to that group too- he will be up there all year, and very consistent.
Baggett will be fast but has yet to prove himself to be consistent- i think he will win a couple of races. I dont think barcia will contend for the title.

I think RD will be alot closer to RV than he was in supercross, alot of people forget just how good dungey is outdoors- it will be close betwween those two. As for the rest of them- cant see anybody else in that group being in championship contention. Hopefully grant will be able to rediscover old form, he's got the talent but its a while since he's mixed it up with those boys at the front. Stewart wont turn up (again)

There is absolutely no way RD and RV will dominate at the MXDN!! I hope one of them can make a race of it with herlings, but i dont think anyone will be able to get near jeffrey round there! Having said that, USA will still most likely win as they have the strongest team collectively. Osborne would be a great pick for the 250 ride
Roczen may be a contender although he has a disadvantage of not riding any of the tracks. In MXON the Americans will have a disadvantage not riding the track. Because the MXON is not a race of individuals, the team will go for the team win and bypass unnecessary risk of riding on the edge trying to beat one individual. That said, I think that either Ryans would be able to beat Herling if the race were an actual 2 motos instead of the MXON format. If Herling's team doesn't have a chance of winning, of course he is going to go for the personal win so he can say he beat an America, but it doesn't really mean much. The MXON team win is the reason for the race.

But if you don't mind, I think I will quote you in my sig to see if you are right.
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