Intriguing JS7 Quote in ESPN Mag.

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4/8/2012 6:40pm
TDeath21 wrote:
Interesting. When was this interview done?
Guessing very recent, it is in the current copy (APR 16 edition, page 38) of ESPN - The Magazine.



" Folks in SUPERCROSS don't understand how big NASCAR is," - Coy says.
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4/9/2012 12:11am
cpj36 wrote:
Unfortunately for all these guys they're already too old for nascar, there is plenty of 25 year olds with 10+ years already in a race car.
PFitzG38 wrote:
LOL, pretty sure you don't need 10 yrs experiance to go national level speed in a stock car. Take 10 Intermediate level motocrossers with at least...
LOL, pretty sure you don't need 10 yrs experiance to go national level speed in a stock car. Take 10 Intermediate level motocrossers with at least a drivers license and I'm pretty sure 7 of them would finish mid pack with a couple weeks practice in roundy round. Nothing anybody tells me would convince me otherwise.
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Wow...you might want to leave your moms basement every once n' awhile and join the rest of civilization. Check with RC and get back to us...
Wow...you might want to leave your moms basement every once n' awhile and join the rest of civilization. Check with RC and get back to us on his take...the GOAT in mx couldn't make it in the 3rd tier of NASCAR with the budget of Monster backing him. What is "national level speed" anyway? Is that sprint cup, nationwide, camping world, k&n, or what?
LOL are you calling me neanderthal? It's just my opinion - it's a message board, did I offend you or some hillbilly sport? LOL. Just not a whole lot of respect for neckcar drivers athletic abilities compared to rally or open wheel driving - or even shifter carts for that matter......nothing anybody tells me will convince me otherwise. Yeah, RC was one of those 3 out of 10 I guess. I felt bad for him, but I had a feeling he would quit or lose his ride before he had to race against Travis or Deegan eventually. I'd say national level speed is fast enough to keep up with the fastest class. I may have been exagerating a bit about a couple weeks to see how quick I could pull someone like you in but maybe not by much. I can't see Travis not winning the first time he gets in equal equipment, unfortunatly I NEVER saw indications RC could drive. I would laugh my ass off if someone like Travis came along and owned neckcar like he did us rally, or even better Deegan.......the good ol boys would love that!!!
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[img]http://smiliesftw.com/x/ugh.gif[/img] Just because someone has 10+ years into something doesn't mean anything. Most of us here had over ten years into motocross by the time we...
Just because someone has 10+ years into something doesn't mean anything. Most of us here had over ten years into motocross by the time we were 25.
Im only 24.... I have 5 months to cram in 10 years of something.....
what should it be?
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PFitzG38 wrote:
LOL are you calling me neanderthal? It's just my opinion - it's a message board, did I offend you or some hillbilly sport? LOL. Just not...
LOL are you calling me neanderthal? It's just my opinion - it's a message board, did I offend you or some hillbilly sport? LOL. Just not a whole lot of respect for neckcar drivers athletic abilities compared to rally or open wheel driving - or even shifter carts for that matter......nothing anybody tells me will convince me otherwise. Yeah, RC was one of those 3 out of 10 I guess. I felt bad for him, but I had a feeling he would quit or lose his ride before he had to race against Travis or Deegan eventually. I'd say national level speed is fast enough to keep up with the fastest class. I may have been exagerating a bit about a couple weeks to see how quick I could pull someone like you in but maybe not by much. I can't see Travis not winning the first time he gets in equal equipment, unfortunatly I NEVER saw indications RC could drive. I would laugh my ass off if someone like Travis came along and owned neckcar like he did us rally, or even better Deegan.......the good ol boys would love that!!!
dude your ignorant as hell pastrana isent even having the much success in a regional division in the k&n series and hasent won carmicheal had a ride but wouldnt take it because he didnt want his reputation to be ruined and you think it takes out of shape guys to be able to drive most all nascar drivers now have trainers and work hard now and most are in great physical shape because it actually takes a hell of a lot to drive in nascar over other series like indy cars just pisses me off when people think its easy to drive in nascar when in reality its very difficult and takes athletic ability to be able to drive these cars and its gonna be a while to pastrana acctually will have success in the higher divisions of nascar and id like to see stewart drive it could be interesting

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4/9/2012 2:27am
enketchum wrote:
Im only 24.... I have 5 months to cram in 10 years of something.....
what should it be?
Fapping, obviously.

Assuming one races every weekend for 10 years, 10 x 52 = 520 times raced in that span. Now in 5 months, let's see; 30days/month x 5 = 150, so in order to get the requisite 520, divide 520 by 150 days, which is roughly 3.5, so it's doable. might be a bit sore, but totally doable.
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Every motocrosser with some success fantasises about going to cars...I flirted with this idea in '97..tried a go-kart race before plunging into formula ford (open wheelers)...some big name tin top pro's were in the race, I set fast lap for the race, but mechanicals screwed up my results. The winner came over to me for a chat, he was the leading 4 wheel guy at the time..he was pissed when I told him it was my first kart race..but was cool when I told him I was former pro mx guy.

Verdict. 4 wheels are dead boring. No matter how fast you go, you get used to it very quickly..and thats it..zzzz. It's a distant 2nd to mx for the buzz factor. I didnt bother after the kart race, thankfully.
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Roscoe33 wrote:
Thats a great idea because James is the fastest man on the planet and he'll have a rollcage around him when he crashes.
I lol'd.
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4/9/2012 7:26am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2012 7:27am
I just want to know how the hell they think they're going to teach him how to set up a CAR. He seems to be having trouble as it is with a mere motorcycle.

natural talent in that game seems to mean more than driving ability.
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4/9/2012 7:44am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2012 7:44am
[img]http://smiliesftw.com/x/ugh.gif[/img] Just because someone has 10+ years into something doesn't mean anything. Most of us here had over ten years into motocross by the time we...
Just because someone has 10+ years into something doesn't mean anything. Most of us here had over ten years into motocross by the time we were 25.
It's not the years it's the hours spent working on your chosen thing.

There is a very credible thoery, with plenty of stats to back it up, that it takes 10,000.00 hours of practice to truly master anything.
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4/9/2012 8:38am
cpj36 wrote:
Unfortunately for all these guys they're already too old for nascar, there is plenty of 25 year olds with 10+ years already in a race car.
se7enmx wrote:
Agree with cpj36. Does James really feel like he can just waltz into NASCAR and do well. I think not.
Agree, he will not be the next BIG thing in nascar.
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JS7 plain and simple needs to get motivated to ride the outdoors...or he best look at renwing his tv reality show.
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cpj36 wrote:
Unfortunately for all these guys they're already too old for nascar, there is plenty of 25 year olds with 10+ years already in a race car.
se7enmx wrote:
Agree with cpj36. Does James really feel like he can just waltz into NASCAR and do well. I think not.
[img]http://smiliesftw.com/x/ugh.gif[/img] Just because someone has 10+ years into something doesn't mean anything. Most of us here had over ten years into motocross by the time we...
Just because someone has 10+ years into something doesn't mean anything. Most of us here had over ten years into motocross by the time we were 25.
And who would have more upside, someone racing mx 10 yrs or someone that's never been on a bike? Unless you stumble across another MC but we've only had one.

The mx guys that are currently winning in that sport compliment Ricky, but have also said him ever winning a cup race is about as likely as any of them winning a SX.

That sport's getting a lot like amateur mx, they spend their lives on 4 wheels and get into full sized cars years before they can get a drivers license.

RC or James starting this late & winning at that level would be something equivalent to what MC done having a relatively late start and the two of them weren't even that in their own sport.

I do think riding a motorcycle makes you a better driver, look what the mx guys are doing there but James will have a much easier time trying to make up the time he's lost in his mx career than he ever would the lifetime he's missed on 4 wheels.
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Like most mx riders, I think I'm elite on the highway compared to the majority on the road.

I got to take a few laps in a friends asphalt late model that was said to be "slow"

I came away understanding that even in a slow car you have a whole lot more motor than you do tire and I can see why there's a huge learning curve there.
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If he can bring in sponsors, and someone wants him to drive a car why do you people care so much?
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I try to avoid negative comments.. but you guys talk about a 500 lap race. JS7 is having a hard time finishing a supercross race. I see JS7 biggest challenge trying to just to last the 500 laps without crashing or making a big mistake on the track. Windham, mister consistant would do better in Nascar. He perfects his riding, he could do this in a nascar.
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Moto_Geek wrote:
I try to avoid negative comments.. but you guys talk about a 500 lap race. JS7 is having a hard time finishing a supercross race. I...
I try to avoid negative comments.. but you guys talk about a 500 lap race. JS7 is having a hard time finishing a supercross race. I see JS7 biggest challenge trying to just to last the 500 laps without crashing or making a big mistake on the track. Windham, mister consistant would do better in Nascar. He perfects his riding, he could do this in a nascar.
Mr. consistent sure had some crashes this year.
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4/9/2012 10:54am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2012 11:00am
Whorehay wrote:
Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times.... the crossover can be done... its just a bummer that...
Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times....

the crossover can be done... its just a bummer that he's getting this chance when there are young car drivers doing their best that would never get that opportunity.

Its simply an attempt to link the crowds of the 2 largest motorsport events in our country, Nascar fans aren't getting any younger and Motocross fans are getting older.

James doesn't "deserve" anything outside our sport, there are plenty of young racers who would kill for that chance that haven't already been given the golden ticket.
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"[i]Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times...[/i]" Best place was a 15th in 2007 (WRC in Mexico)...
"Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times..."

Best place was a 15th in 2007 (WRC in Mexico). Those World rally guys are still shaking from fear. hoping he will never show up again...
If memory serves me right TP raced a support production based class.

Travis Pastrana, or any other american for that matter, have never been able to do much more than watch the WRC elite in awe. The SCCA rally that competes state side is more like local club racing when compared to the WRC
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TDeath21 wrote:
Interesting. When was this interview done?
Rupert X wrote:
Guessing very recent, it is in the current copy (APR 16 edition, page 38) of ESPN - The Magazine. " Folks in SUPERCROSS don't understand how...
Guessing very recent, it is in the current copy (APR 16 edition, page 38) of ESPN - The Magazine.



" Folks in SUPERCROSS don't understand how big NASCAR is," - Coy says.
" Folks in SUPERCROSS don't understand how big NASCAR is," - Coy says.

Huh
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Whorehay wrote:
Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times.... the crossover can be done... its just a bummer that...
Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times....

the crossover can be done... its just a bummer that he's getting this chance when there are young car drivers doing their best that would never get that opportunity.

Its simply an attempt to link the crowds of the 2 largest motorsport events in our country, Nascar fans aren't getting any younger and Motocross fans are getting older.

James doesn't "deserve" anything outside our sport, there are plenty of young racers who would kill for that chance that haven't already been given the golden ticket.
TMV wrote:
"[i]Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times...[/i]" Best place was a 15th in 2007 (WRC in Mexico)...
"Travis Pastrana has really put a beat down to those World rally guys a few times..."

Best place was a 15th in 2007 (WRC in Mexico). Those World rally guys are still shaking from fear. hoping he will never show up again...
munsch121 wrote:
If memory serves me right TP raced a support production based class. Travis Pastrana, or any other american for that matter, have never been able to...
If memory serves me right TP raced a support production based class.

Travis Pastrana, or any other american for that matter, have never been able to do much more than watch the WRC elite in awe. The SCCA rally that competes state side is more like local club racing when compared to the WRC
I fallow car racing as much as I fallow tennis...I just understood he was doing well and from the little I have heard. its apparent he has some skills behind the wheel.

Stewie cant be relax long enough to keep his bike on its wheels for 20 laps how is he supposed to keep a car on a track for a few hours?

I do recall a deal where Moto GP rider John hopkins got a chance to drive a formula one car.. sharp learning curve but I think he was able to throw down some decent laps bye the end of 1 day in the car. If i remember.... he came within a couple of seconds of a competitive lap time in a car on his FIRST day. Either way Hopper is an excellent mx rider as well and I can bet a handful of cash there isn't a single nascar driver that could ever go to MX and even get a pro liscense let alone be competitive. Given the right opportunity I think a pro MX racer could be competitive in a car with little training.

After all... for 400 bucks a soccer mom can go drive 160 mph and turn left at one of them driving schools....
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The riders/drivers/players in every sport's elite level are just way too good for any elite rider/driver/player from another sport to step right in and be any good, even with many years of training and practice.

Here's the ones I can think of right off the top of my head

Ricky Carmichael
Michael Jordan
Travis Pastrana
Shaun Palmer

This is not to be confused with someone who played both sports their entire life, and did both of them professionally. Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson were both amazing athletes, but they weren't a top guy in both sports. It was one or the other. Still an amazing achievement to do what they did though.

Although I've never skated or snowboarded so I can't be sure how similar they are, I think what Shaun White has accomplished should put him in the conversation of greatest athletes of all time. To dominate snowboarding the way he has, and on top of that get some gold medals in skateboarding, that to me is astonishing.

The top athletes in every sport have the following things (in no particular order):
1. The opportunity. A huge part of it, especially for expensive sports like MX.
2. The dedication. This is my point in saying why it's hard to switch sports. You're going up against others who have spent years training for their sport, much like you've done in yours. Now you're jumping into the fire because you were good at some other sport.
3. The talent/potential. You have to be an amazing athlete to be at or near the top of any sport. Just because you were an awesome MX racer (RC) or basketball player (MJ) doesn't mean you switch sports and are going against nonathletic people.

Jordan and Carmichael couldn't even get to the elite level of baseball or car racing, and both were by far the best in their sport. However, the marketability, as some have previously mentioned, is why teams gave Jordan a contract, and why a team gave Carmichael a contract. More so Jordan. He would sell out minor league baseball games based on his name alone.
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4/9/2012 1:23pm Edited Date/Time 4/9/2012 1:25pm
the thought of Stewart doing 500 laps in a car is not realistic. he's only put 20 laps together twice this year, i know they are light years separated but focus is focus. either you got it or you don't. the last couple years have shown how much focus James has. he's still one of the best there is and ever was, but the nascar thing just doesn't seem realistic to me.
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the thought of Stewart doing 500 laps in a car is not realistic. he's only put 20 laps together twice this year, i know they are...
the thought of Stewart doing 500 laps in a car is not realistic. he's only put 20 laps together twice this year, i know they are light years separated but focus is focus. either you got it or you don't. the last couple years have shown how much focus James has. he's still one of the best there is and ever was, but the nascar thing just doesn't seem realistic to me.
Yep, no way he can stay focused that long. And to get the car setup right, you need to either have a ton of driving experience or be really sharp. Bubba struggled all last year just to get his front tire working right, how the hell is he gonna get 4 wheels and a heavy ass car to go fast and stick in the corners. He might actually be the worst possible candidate to take a shot at Nascar.
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BobbyM wrote:
a natural gift? how smart can coy and joe be? they gave james a shitload a money, built a better than factory one off werx special...
a natural gift? how smart can coy and joe be? they gave james a shitload a money, built a better than factory one off werx special and were ready for the title. ...or at least battling for the title.

boy were they wrong....
Not quite as wrong as all the guys that signed Mike Alessi to factory rides year after year and got absolutely nothing out of it. At least James has actually won some championships - And I say this as a fan of Mike's.

Before you post Booby, you should test what you are about to say for it's Bullshit content.
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I can't believe some people are actually discussing this like it's an actual possibility he'd be a competitive NASCrash driver.

He could surprise us but then again the world ends on 12/12/12/ so why bother pretending? Both are about as likely.
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englishman wrote:
It's not the years it's the hours spent working on your chosen thing. There is a very credible thoery, with plenty of stats to back it...
It's not the years it's the hours spent working on your chosen thing.

There is a very credible thoery, with plenty of stats to back it up, that it takes 10,000.00 hours of practice to truly master anything.
That's all? Gosh I have more than that playing drums and I'm no master. Now Vai and Malmsteen have as I figure around 50K hours and they are masters.
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Moto_Geek wrote:
I try to avoid negative comments.. but you guys talk about a 500 lap race. JS7 is having a hard time finishing a supercross race. I...
I try to avoid negative comments.. but you guys talk about a 500 lap race. JS7 is having a hard time finishing a supercross race. I see JS7 biggest challenge trying to just to last the 500 laps without crashing or making a big mistake on the track. Windham, mister consistant would do better in Nascar. He perfects his riding, he could do this in a nascar.
Sherwood wrote:
Mr. consistent sure had some crashes this year.
consistency part of the time never works...
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BobbyM wrote:
a natural gift? how smart can coy and joe be? they gave james a shitload a money, built a better than factory one off werx special...
a natural gift? how smart can coy and joe be? they gave james a shitload a money, built a better than factory one off werx special and were ready for the title. ...or at least battling for the title.

boy were they wrong....
Not quite as wrong as all the guys that signed Mike Alessi to factory rides year after year and got absolutely nothing out of it. At...
Not quite as wrong as all the guys that signed Mike Alessi to factory rides year after year and got absolutely nothing out of it. At least James has actually won some championships - And I say this as a fan of Mike's.

Before you post Booby, you should test what you are about to say for it's Bullshit content.
what the fuck does this have to do with mike alessi....mister "cock"?
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dude your ignorant as hell pastrana isent even having the much success in a regional division in the k&n series and hasent won carmicheal had a...
dude your ignorant as hell pastrana isent even having the much success in a regional division in the k&n series and hasent won carmicheal had a ride but wouldnt take it because he didnt want his reputation to be ruined and you think it takes out of shape guys to be able to drive most all nascar drivers now have trainers and work hard now and most are in great physical shape because it actually takes a hell of a lot to drive in nascar over other series like indy cars just pisses me off when people think its easy to drive in nascar when in reality its very difficult and takes athletic ability to be able to drive these cars and its gonna be a while to pastrana acctually will have success in the higher divisions of nascar and id like to see stewart drive it could be interesting
damn dude!! Use the period every once in a while.. that was a hot mess to try to read.
4/10/2012 5:32am
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I can't believe some people are actually discussing this like it's an actual possibility he'd be a competitive NASCrash driver. He could surprise us but then...
I can't believe some people are actually discussing this like it's an actual possibility he'd be a competitive NASCrash driver.

He could surprise us but then again the world ends on 12/12/12/ so why bother pretending? Both are about as likely.
What?! I've only got 7 months left to lose my virginity!
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BobbyM wrote:
a natural gift? how smart can coy and joe be? they gave james a shitload a money, built a better than factory one off werx special...
a natural gift? how smart can coy and joe be? they gave james a shitload a money, built a better than factory one off werx special and were ready for the title. ...or at least battling for the title.

boy were they wrong....
Not quite as wrong as all the guys that signed Mike Alessi to factory rides year after year and got absolutely nothing out of it. At...
Not quite as wrong as all the guys that signed Mike Alessi to factory rides year after year and got absolutely nothing out of it. At least James has actually won some championships - And I say this as a fan of Mike's.

Before you post Booby, you should test what you are about to say for it's Bullshit content.
BobbyM wrote:
what the fuck does this have to do with mike alessi....mister "cock"?
I know it's hard for you to follow the bouncing ball, but it has to do with consistency in the criticism you dole out. Apply the same criticism to every team and manager that thought they were signing up a rider to give them good results over the last two decades. How many of them were "wrong?"

What's a "shitload" of money? How do you know this?
better than factory??? Are you trying to say the factory Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki bikes are not as good as the Yamaha put out by Gibbs?? LOL

You choose to constantly hate on James, and I choose to show how fucking stupid you are sometimes. No biggie, just deal with it, and don't be so fixated on my crotch you weirdo.

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