Selling 06 CR 250 with under 10 hours use

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Selling 2006 Honda CR 250 in like new condition, less than 10 hours use. Has just got Eric Gorr mo betta porting, along with v force reeds with less than an hour of use on the porting and reeds. It has twinwall bars and RG3 top clamp. Also converted front number plate and fender to fit 2010+ CRF. Tires are basically new too. CHECK OUT THE PICS! I can't imagaine you will find a cleaner lower hour CR250 anywhere for sale. call/text for more info 484 nine one nine 851eight


http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/2902626764.html
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3/14/2012 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2012 5:02pm
STFU Noob!!

oh, and

Very nice, good luck.
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3/15/2012 7:36am
funny how 75 percent of the members are two stroke lovers and no one has scooped that beauty up!!!! pony up newmann and gang!!!
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3/15/2012 9:16am
I would LOVE to have that CR ..... And I will someday again have Tue last generation cr250 any year 02 and up, just waiting for the right deal. Those bikes were so underestimated in their performance. The engine was weak off the bottom but man they screamed to the moon its lightweight too almost like having a double displacement 125. They handled really good too.....not as good as my RM but a close second place
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3/15/2012 9:32am
There is a 2007 Last Model Yr CR250 with 0 hrs, brand new for sale in San Jose Ca craigslist. $7k Get some

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BIGRIGGIN wrote:
There is a 2007 Last Model Yr CR250 with 0 hrs, brand new for sale in San Jose Ca craigslist. $7k Get some
7k? but.... but..... i thought 2 strokes where omgwtfbbq cheaper than 4 strokes and the $7000 price of 4 strokes was "roon'ing" the sport?
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3/15/2012 12:54pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 12:55pm
If that bike were listed in Phoenix, I'd have bought it in 2 seconds flat. I just bought a brand new 11 YZ250 to go with my 06 YZ125. I think those late model CR two strokes are the sharpest looking bikes I've ever seen. Not to mention the Honda build quality.
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3/15/2012 4:09pm
The thing feels like a Honda, thats the important thing. Its awesome, its honestly too powerful which is my reason for selling. My 09 CRF450 is super tame compared to this thing. I know what its worth and Im not going to give it away. It will come in my house as decoration before I sell it for too cheap.
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3/15/2012 4:13pm
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
The thing feels like a Honda, thats the important thing. Its awesome, its honestly too powerful which is my reason for selling. My 09 CRF450 is...
The thing feels like a Honda, thats the important thing. Its awesome, its honestly too powerful which is my reason for selling. My 09 CRF450 is super tame compared to this thing. I know what its worth and Im not going to give it away. It will come in my house as decoration before I sell it for too cheap.
Huh too powerful compared to your 450 huh?..
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3/15/2012 4:39pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 4:52pm
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
The thing feels like a Honda, thats the important thing. Its awesome, its honestly too powerful which is my reason for selling. My 09 CRF450 is...
The thing feels like a Honda, thats the important thing. Its awesome, its honestly too powerful which is my reason for selling. My 09 CRF450 is super tame compared to this thing. I know what its worth and Im not going to give it away. It will come in my house as decoration before I sell it for too cheap.
Get a '00-up YZ250 carb for less than $100 from ebay, install a R1368EKA needle @ #2 clip (Honda part 16230-KZ3-J11), 180 main, 50 pilot, air screw @ 2 out, and plug the powerjet. You won't want to sell it then.
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3/15/2012 4:46pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 4:47pm
pitbike502 wrote:
Huh too powerful compared to your 450 huh?..
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily fixed by milling .030" of the base and swapping the stock Mikuni TMX carb for a Keihin PWK from a '00-up YZ.
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3/15/2012 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 5:16pm
pitbike502 wrote:
Huh too powerful compared to your 450 huh?..
CamP wrote:
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily...
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily fixed by milling .030" of the base and swapping the stock Mikuni TMX carb for a Keihin PWK from a '00-up YZ.
I might be keeping it if no one offers me what I want for it. That is good information. I dont know what eric does for the "mo betta" porting.. It didnt look like the base was cut..

Keihin jets based off a different scale I assue? right now I have a 400 main and 37.5 pilot. stock needle. How do I plug the power jet?

What about gearing? I feel that may be a problem too. I had 13/51 which was better when the motor was stock but with the porting its just crazy how hard the mid range is. I was thinking going 14/49 if I kept it.

Thanks!
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3/15/2012 5:16pm
pitbike502 wrote:
Huh too powerful compared to your 450 huh?..
CamP wrote:
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily...
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily fixed by milling .030" of the base and swapping the stock Mikuni TMX carb for a Keihin PWK from a '00-up YZ.
haha, i had an 06. just bustin his chops, ill take the 450 anyday
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3/15/2012 5:58pm
Nice looking bike dude.3500? Thats a little too high for me. ever had that bike at blue diamond?
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3/15/2012 6:07pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 6:08pm
BIGRIGGIN wrote:
There is a 2007 Last Model Yr CR250 with 0 hrs, brand new for sale in San Jose Ca craigslist. $7k Get some
7k? but.... but..... i thought 2 strokes where omgwtfbbq cheaper than 4 strokes and the $7000 price of 4 strokes was "roon'ing" the sport?
as far as the price goes in that particular bike; ya got a point; @ $7k!
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3/15/2012 6:20pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 6:29pm
pitbike502 wrote:
Huh too powerful compared to your 450 huh?..
CamP wrote:
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily...
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily fixed by milling .030" of the base and swapping the stock Mikuni TMX carb for a Keihin PWK from a '00-up YZ.
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
I might be keeping it if no one offers me what I want for it. That is good information. I dont know what eric does for...
I might be keeping it if no one offers me what I want for it. That is good information. I dont know what eric does for the "mo betta" porting.. It didnt look like the base was cut..

Keihin jets based off a different scale I assue? right now I have a 400 main and 37.5 pilot. stock needle. How do I plug the power jet?

What about gearing? I feel that may be a problem too. I had 13/51 which was better when the motor was stock but with the porting its just crazy how hard the mid range is. I was thinking going 14/49 if I kept it.

Thanks!
Yeah, I don't think Gorr mills the base on his "mo better" work for the 05-07, but he mills the head instead to correct the squish. With the stock head, milling the base .030" corrects the excessive squish, increases compression and retards the port timing all at once. These things build low/mid power that the bike really needs.

Since Gorr has already worked the head and cylinder, I would suggest getting a '00-up YZ carb asap, and installing the jetting I mentioned earlier. The jets between Mikuni and Keihin are totally different. Plugging the powerjet is simple. Either use a threaded brass plug from the hardware store, or plug the hole with an epoxy like JB Weld. The YZ carb makes an even more low/mid power than milling the cylinder. I found a '00 YZ carb on ebay for $67 and it completely changed the character of the bike. It now has nice smooth power delivery from bottom to top. I believe that the 05-07 CR250's would have won all the shoot-outs if it came with a Keihin PWK.

BTW, I'm running stock gearing and it works perfectly with the YZ carb and milled base.
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jtiger12 wrote:
Nice looking bike dude.3500? Thats a little too high for me. ever had that bike at blue diamond?
Well it is cherry.. yep had it at BD last weekend I'll prolly bring it along this weekend too and leave it in the truck.
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3/15/2012 6:51pm
CamP wrote:
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily...
The 05-07 CR250 has an incredibly hard and unpredictable mid-range hit. This makes for a very difficult to use power delivery. Fortunately, that can be easily fixed by milling .030" of the base and swapping the stock Mikuni TMX carb for a Keihin PWK from a '00-up YZ.
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
I might be keeping it if no one offers me what I want for it. That is good information. I dont know what eric does for...
I might be keeping it if no one offers me what I want for it. That is good information. I dont know what eric does for the "mo betta" porting.. It didnt look like the base was cut..

Keihin jets based off a different scale I assue? right now I have a 400 main and 37.5 pilot. stock needle. How do I plug the power jet?

What about gearing? I feel that may be a problem too. I had 13/51 which was better when the motor was stock but with the porting its just crazy how hard the mid range is. I was thinking going 14/49 if I kept it.

Thanks!
CamP wrote:
Yeah, I don't think Gorr mills the base on his "mo better" work for the 05-07, but he mills the head instead to correct the squish...
Yeah, I don't think Gorr mills the base on his "mo better" work for the 05-07, but he mills the head instead to correct the squish. With the stock head, milling the base .030" corrects the excessive squish, increases compression and retards the port timing all at once. These things build low/mid power that the bike really needs.

Since Gorr has already worked the head and cylinder, I would suggest getting a '00-up YZ carb asap, and installing the jetting I mentioned earlier. The jets between Mikuni and Keihin are totally different. Plugging the powerjet is simple. Either use a threaded brass plug from the hardware store, or plug the hole with an epoxy like JB Weld. The YZ carb makes an even more low/mid power than milling the cylinder. I found a '00 YZ carb on ebay for $67 and it completely changed the character of the bike. It now has nice smooth power delivery from bottom to top. I believe that the 05-07 CR250's would have won all the shoot-outs if it came with a Keihin PWK.

BTW, I'm running stock gearing and it works perfectly with the YZ carb and milled base.
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping it. Just to make sure I understand correctly I am going to buy a stock honda needle and install it in the keihin carb even though the stock hondas dont come with keihin?

Thanks again
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Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Well it is cherry.. yep had it at BD last weekend I'll prolly bring it along this weekend too and leave it in the truck.
See ya there! Leavin' tomorrow. Ill be with a crew of about 5 little ktms zippin' around, ill have a beer in hand and snappin' pics
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jtiger12 wrote:
Nice looking bike dude.3500? Thats a little too high for me. ever had that bike at blue diamond?
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Well it is cherry.. yep had it at BD last weekend I'll prolly bring it along this weekend too and leave it in the truck.
If it's really a 10 hour bike, you should have no problem getting $3,500 for it, but I certainly wouldn't recommend selling it until after you try the YZ carb.
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3/15/2012 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 7:35pm
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping...
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping it. Just to make sure I understand correctly I am going to buy a stock honda needle and install it in the keihin carb even though the stock hondas dont come with keihin?

Thanks again
Yes, order Honda part #16230-KZ3-J11. It is marked R1368EKA. Retails for about $15. Use clip position #2. This needle was an optional needle for the '99 CR250, which came with a PWK. The '99-00 CR250's came with a 91mm long version of the PWK. The 04-07 CR250 uses a 75mm long carb, which is the same as the 75mm powerjet PWK's found on the '00-up YZ250.

The R1368EKA needle works well with the #7 slide and 50 pilot that the '00-up YZ carb already has. Swap the main for a 180 and you should be set.

If you want even more low/mid power and would prefer to use a new carb, a good option is the 36mm PWK used on the '06-up KTM 250SX, part no. 54831001544. You can buy a new one for $270
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jtiger12 wrote:
Nice looking bike dude.3500? Thats a little too high for me. ever had that bike at blue diamond?
Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Well it is cherry.. yep had it at BD last weekend I'll prolly bring it along this weekend too and leave it in the truck.
I'd like to look at it if your at bdmx on sunday. I have commitments saturday I cannot get out of.
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If this was in se tn i would buy it tomorrow. awesome bike
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Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping...
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping it. Just to make sure I understand correctly I am going to buy a stock honda needle and install it in the keihin carb even though the stock hondas dont come with keihin?

Thanks again
CamP wrote:
Yes, order Honda part #16230-KZ3-J11. It is marked R1368EKA. Retails for about $15. Use clip position #2. This needle was an optional needle for the '99...
Yes, order Honda part #16230-KZ3-J11. It is marked R1368EKA. Retails for about $15. Use clip position #2. This needle was an optional needle for the '99 CR250, which came with a PWK. The '99-00 CR250's came with a 91mm long version of the PWK. The 04-07 CR250 uses a 75mm long carb, which is the same as the 75mm powerjet PWK's found on the '00-up YZ250.

The R1368EKA needle works well with the #7 slide and 50 pilot that the '00-up YZ carb already has. Swap the main for a 180 and you should be set.

If you want even more low/mid power and would prefer to use a new carb, a good option is the 36mm PWK used on the '06-up KTM 250SX, part no. 54831001544. You can buy a new one for $270
Is this just for 2005 - 2007 CR's? I recently picked up an '03, which is the reason I'm asking.
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Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping...
Thanks this is great information. If no one jumps on board in a week or so I will just get a carb and plan on keeping it. Just to make sure I understand correctly I am going to buy a stock honda needle and install it in the keihin carb even though the stock hondas dont come with keihin?

Thanks again
CamP wrote:
Yes, order Honda part #16230-KZ3-J11. It is marked R1368EKA. Retails for about $15. Use clip position #2. This needle was an optional needle for the '99...
Yes, order Honda part #16230-KZ3-J11. It is marked R1368EKA. Retails for about $15. Use clip position #2. This needle was an optional needle for the '99 CR250, which came with a PWK. The '99-00 CR250's came with a 91mm long version of the PWK. The 04-07 CR250 uses a 75mm long carb, which is the same as the 75mm powerjet PWK's found on the '00-up YZ250.

The R1368EKA needle works well with the #7 slide and 50 pilot that the '00-up YZ carb already has. Swap the main for a 180 and you should be set.

If you want even more low/mid power and would prefer to use a new carb, a good option is the 36mm PWK used on the '06-up KTM 250SX, part no. 54831001544. You can buy a new one for $270
flyinb501 wrote:
Is this just for 2005 - 2007 CR's? I recently picked up an '03, which is the reason I'm asking.
The Mikuni on the 02-03 CR250 is 85mm long so the PWK found on the YZ, RM, KX, SX won't work. The PWK from a 2000 CR250 is 91mm long and will work on your bike. You can get them new for $157 through Powersports Plus. http://www.powersportsplus.com/parts/search/Honda/Motorcycle/2000/CR250R+A/CARBURETOR+%281%29/parts.html
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Sweet bike! I'd be all over it before you had a chance to change your mind if I hadn't already got mine.

I had been looking for some time, and found a really nice '05 a couple of years ago, awesome bike. I added braided stainless brake lines, oversized front rotor and VForce reeds. The tuning/powerband is indeed just a skosh off. We worked most of a full day swapping jets and moving the needle, but never saw much improvement. I've been planning to send to the top end to Eric Gorr, but just haven't done it yet.

CamP, thanks for your recommendations, I may just go that route myself Wink
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prillernut wrote:
Sweet bike! I'd be all over it before you had a chance to change your mind if I hadn't already got mine. I had been looking...
Sweet bike! I'd be all over it before you had a chance to change your mind if I hadn't already got mine.

I had been looking for some time, and found a really nice '05 a couple of years ago, awesome bike. I added braided stainless brake lines, oversized front rotor and VForce reeds. The tuning/powerband is indeed just a skosh off. We worked most of a full day swapping jets and moving the needle, but never saw much improvement. I've been planning to send to the top end to Eric Gorr, but just haven't done it yet.

CamP, thanks for your recommendations, I may just go that route myself Wink
You'll really like the bike with the YZ carb. Lowering the cylinder .030" is also a great move, but you'll raise the compression enough to require 100 octane fuel. These two mods used with the TPS disconnected really change the character of the power for the better. It will have nice low end, with a smoother transition into the mid-range, and the bike will rev to the moon.
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CamP, you got lucky finding a decent working newer YZ carb on ebay for $67. I know because I searched for one for my 2006 YZ250 for almost 2 months until I found a new, in-the-box 2001 carb and sniped it for $135. Most of the 2000-2012 YZ250 carbs on ebay go in the $135-$185 range. The reason is because new from the dealer they retail for like $850 and the cheapest you can find them online is about $650. Mostly because you're paying for that fancy electronic TPS and Powerjet that you CR250 guys don't want anyway.

Most of the YZ250 carbs on ebay come from roached out bikes that are being parted out by some chop-shop that didn't personally own the bike and never rode it. You have to be really careful because half of them won't even clean the damn thing for the pictures, they almost never take pics of the inside of the carb, and all they say is "came off a clean bike!"

This is important because the newer YZ carbs are particularly prone to a few things. First is the float needle seat is pressed in and Yamaha does not sell a replacement seat. So lots of them have worn or sticking seats. Second is the O-rings under the "jet-block" in the float bowl. They go bad when the bike sits and, again, are not sold except by some obscure aftermarket places. The bike will run like shit if these are bad and the only way to know is to bolt it on and try. 3rd, the starter jet pipe has a hair-thin hole and gets clogged very easily with corrosion. Again, won't know until you try it on the bike.

Also, not all 2000-2012 YZ250 carbs are the same. If you look through the part numbers they have changed over the years. The biggest change I am aware of is the orientation of the TPS wire on the top/rear of the carb. On the earlier steel framed bikes the wire goes up. On the newer aluminum framed bikes it goes down to give clearance to the frame. It sounds like you've put one of the older upright ones on your bike and it cleared the frame no prob. Question: can you rotate the top of the carb towards the left side of the bike to swap needles without removing the carb? with the 2001 carb on my 2006 YZ250 I can not.
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Yes, swapping needles is easy on the CR. Just remove the tank and the top of the carb is right there.

I probably did get lucky with the '$67 used carb. I figured that at that price, it was disposable if it turned out to be junk. If you have a 04-up CR and want a new 75mm PWK, the '06-up 250SX carb can be purchased for $270 online.

'02-03 CR owners can get a new 91mm long PWK for the '00 CR250 for $157 online.
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3/16/2012 11:08am
Would you consider a trade?
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Ryan_Nolan wrote:
Well it is cherry.. yep had it at BD last weekend I'll prolly bring it along this weekend too and leave it in the truck.
pitbike502 wrote:
See ya there! Leavin' tomorrow. Ill be with a crew of about 5 little ktms zippin' around, ill have a beer in hand and snappin' pics
Cool, Look for me there on sunday then

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