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2/26/2012 2:25pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2012 2:25pm
pete24 wrote:
there is a electric fuel pump , when the engine spins over it charges a capacitor that energizes the fuel pump, thats why all the electronics...
there is a electric fuel pump , when the engine spins over it charges a capacitor that energizes the fuel pump, thats why all the electronics, are heavier, need to make a lot more juice in a short amount of time then a gravity feed carbed bike
Frankie wrote:
Ahh yes.. When I was building roadrace engines in the late 80's early 90's the guys were replacing batteries on their bikes with a capacitor set...
Ahh yes.. When I was building roadrace engines in the late 80's early 90's the guys were replacing batteries on their bikes with a capacitor set up to save weigth. Called a total loss system if I remember correct, you'd think I would have remembered that. Thanks Pete!
Yes....thank you Mr Pete.

So the bike should have started if it was just the electronic start meaning something else was up with that bike then.
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fuel, spark, and compression=startup was missing one of those
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ktm is number 1 in motorcycle sales and they put more r and d into the bike then the rest of the teams. this is tatum...
ktm is number 1 in motorcycle sales and they put more r and d into the bike then the rest of the teams. this is tatum fuller tbones daughter
TeamGreen wrote:
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World... Honda has more money in...
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World...

Honda has more money in R&D than KTM has in "money", period.

Sorry; but, I couldn't let a post this WRONG go unattended.
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like an idiot
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ktm is number 1 in motorcycle sales and they put more r and d into the bike then the rest of the teams. this is tatum...
ktm is number 1 in motorcycle sales and they put more r and d into the bike then the rest of the teams. this is tatum fuller tbones daughter
TeamGreen wrote:
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World... Honda has more money in...
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World...

Honda has more money in R&D than KTM has in "money", period.

Sorry; but, I couldn't let a post this WRONG go unattended.
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like...
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like an idiot
You should learn to read......He said Honda has more money in R&D.

Nothing about bike sales.

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TeamGreen wrote:
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World... Honda has more money in...
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World...

Honda has more money in R&D than KTM has in "money", period.

Sorry; but, I couldn't let a post this WRONG go unattended.
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like...
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like an idiot
jndmx wrote:
You should learn to read......He said Honda has more money in R&D.

Nothing about bike sales.
ill bet Honda profits more on the accord every year then KTM makes in ten years
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ktm is number 1 in motorcycle sales and they put more r and d into the bike then the rest of the teams. this is tatum...
ktm is number 1 in motorcycle sales and they put more r and d into the bike then the rest of the teams. this is tatum fuller tbones daughter
TeamGreen wrote:
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World... Honda has more money in...
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World...

Honda has more money in R&D than KTM has in "money", period.

Sorry; but, I couldn't let a post this WRONG go unattended.
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like...
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like an idiot
LOL. Take that Mr.Green....
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pete24 wrote:
ill bet Honda profits more on the accord every year then KTM makes in ten years
LOL! Good point Pete. But I bet the Accord isn't so good in the woops. Smile
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TeamGreen wrote:
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World... Honda has more money in...
U might wanna get a lil' bit of an education in Statistics & then roll into "R&D" and the real World...

Honda has more money in R&D than KTM has in "money", period.

Sorry; but, I couldn't let a post this WRONG go unattended.
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like...
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like an idiot
jndmx wrote:
You should learn to read......He said Honda has more money in R&D.

Nothing about bike sales.
you and your lil boyfriend should learn to read i never said anything about money. i was talking about" RESEARCH" and "DEVELOPMENT"
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newmann wrote:
Why the hell does a dirt bike need a fuel pump in the first place? Simple is better.....and lighter. That 2 stroke carbed solution up above...
Why the hell does a dirt bike need a fuel pump in the first place? Simple is better.....and lighter. That 2 stroke carbed solution up above makes more and more sense every week though.
Do you even know what is inside a carb? Millions of little holes, venturies, acceleration pumps, delicate diaphragms, and tons of little fragile parts? Do you even know what happens when one of those microscopic holes gets clogged with dirt? Diaphragm rips? Float breaks or gets stuck? Do you even know how simple EFI is? Do you even know how simple a fuel injector is? Never mind, I'm replying to a guy who doesn't even know what torque is and who is stuck in 1975. I'm still waiting on where you got your cold-hard-facts that it was the battery. Wait, you just pulled that out of your ass, right? Ahhh fuck I forgot that 2-strokes don't have any electrical components. Wait, what are those little boxes behind their front number plates??!?!
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you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like...
you are a moron and should some research before you open your mouth..... ktm IS #1 in motorcycle sales so go hide cuz you look like an idiot
jndmx wrote:
You should learn to read......He said Honda has more money in R&D.

Nothing about bike sales.
you and your lil boyfriend should learn to read i never said anything about money. i was talking about" RESEARCH" and "DEVELOPMENT"
Since you have no idea who TeamGreen is I'll go ahead and give you the benfit of the doubt......and there is no need to be insulting about it.
If you can't take a little ribbing maybe the internet isn' the place for you.

KTM is #1 in sales no doubt.
I do doubt they spend more in R&D than Honda and I am going to go with the word of a guy that I know has some info about that.
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newmann wrote:
Why the hell does a dirt bike need a fuel pump in the first place? Simple is better.....and lighter. That 2 stroke carbed solution up above...
Why the hell does a dirt bike need a fuel pump in the first place? Simple is better.....and lighter. That 2 stroke carbed solution up above makes more and more sense every week though.
MX_er424 wrote:
Do you even know what is inside a carb? Millions of little holes, venturies, acceleration pumps, delicate diaphragms, and tons of little fragile parts? Do you...
Do you even know what is inside a carb? Millions of little holes, venturies, acceleration pumps, delicate diaphragms, and tons of little fragile parts? Do you even know what happens when one of those microscopic holes gets clogged with dirt? Diaphragm rips? Float breaks or gets stuck? Do you even know how simple EFI is? Do you even know how simple a fuel injector is? Never mind, I'm replying to a guy who doesn't even know what torque is and who is stuck in 1975. I'm still waiting on where you got your cold-hard-facts that it was the battery. Wait, you just pulled that out of your ass, right? Ahhh fuck I forgot that 2-strokes don't have any electrical components. Wait, what are those little boxes behind their front number plates??!?!
Millions of little holes? What kind of carb has millions of little holes? What dirt bike carb has a diaphragm and acceleration pump? A 4 stroke pumper? Not so with the 2 stroker pictured above. And about torque, what do you know that I don't?

So, you know for a fact that the JDR KTM Team went to the line with a dead damn battery when they supposedly had the same issue earlier in the day? That theory about the dreadlock falling out makes more sense then that. LMAO!

And about being stuck in 1975, I'll have you know that just today I got a freshly built (I built) 1979 AND a 1980 CR125 fired up and running and they both sound pretty damn sweet. So get your cold hard facts straight that I'm not stuck in 1975.Tongue

And back to torque, neither the 79 nor 80 model have much of it. LOL
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jndmx wrote:
You should learn to read......He said Honda has more money in R&D.

Nothing about bike sales.
you and your lil boyfriend should learn to read i never said anything about money. i was talking about" RESEARCH" and "DEVELOPMENT"
jndmx wrote:
Since you have no idea who TeamGreen is I'll go ahead and give you the benfit of the doubt......and there is no need to be insulting...
Since you have no idea who TeamGreen is I'll go ahead and give you the benfit of the doubt......and there is no need to be insulting about it.
If you can't take a little ribbing maybe the internet isn' the place for you.

KTM is #1 in sales no doubt.
I do doubt they spend more in R&D than Honda and I am going to go with the word of a guy that I know has some info about that.
Yeah, that Team Green guy, whoever he is obviously doesn't know much of anything. LOL

And Honda's R&D department pisses away more money before lunch every day than KTM probably budgets for the year.
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pete24 wrote:
fuel, spark, and compression=startup was missing one of those
Don't forget air..Its key to startup also..
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Oh nice... So I suppose now I'm the only guy left stuck in 1975.. Smile
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Oh nice... So I suppose now I'm the only guy left stuck in 1975.. Smile
Not with the governments no child left behind program. We'll have you up to 1980 soon as well.
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newmann wrote:
Millions of little holes? What kind of carb has millions of little holes? What dirt bike carb has a diaphragm and acceleration pump? A 4 stroke...
Millions of little holes? What kind of carb has millions of little holes? What dirt bike carb has a diaphragm and acceleration pump? A 4 stroke pumper? Not so with the 2 stroker pictured above. And about torque, what do you know that I don't?

So, you know for a fact that the JDR KTM Team went to the line with a dead damn battery when they supposedly had the same issue earlier in the day? That theory about the dreadlock falling out makes more sense then that. LMAO!

And about being stuck in 1975, I'll have you know that just today I got a freshly built (I built) 1979 AND a 1980 CR125 fired up and running and they both sound pretty damn sweet. So get your cold hard facts straight that I'm not stuck in 1975.Tongue

And back to torque, neither the 79 nor 80 model have much of it. LOL
"What kind of carb has millions of little holes?"
Have you taken apart a carb that wasn't from 1983? Jesus Christ.

"And about torque, what do you know that I don't?"
That you obviously don't know how valuable it is? Huurr duurr I wonder why nobody is riding a ultra-light 2-stroke if weight is so important? Oh yea, because of a thing called TORQUE. Gee I wonder how Roczen throws around that "omg 231 lb tank!!1" like an 80? Amazing.

"So, you know for a fact that the JDR KTM Team went to the line with a dead damn battery when they supposedly had the same issue earlier in the day?"
Can you read? Did I post that? You're the one who posted that you fucking idiot. Are you literally retarded?
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newmann wrote:
Millions of little holes? What kind of carb has millions of little holes? What dirt bike carb has a diaphragm and acceleration pump? A 4 stroke...
Millions of little holes? What kind of carb has millions of little holes? What dirt bike carb has a diaphragm and acceleration pump? A 4 stroke pumper? Not so with the 2 stroker pictured above. And about torque, what do you know that I don't?

So, you know for a fact that the JDR KTM Team went to the line with a dead damn battery when they supposedly had the same issue earlier in the day? That theory about the dreadlock falling out makes more sense then that. LMAO!

And about being stuck in 1975, I'll have you know that just today I got a freshly built (I built) 1979 AND a 1980 CR125 fired up and running and they both sound pretty damn sweet. So get your cold hard facts straight that I'm not stuck in 1975.Tongue

And back to torque, neither the 79 nor 80 model have much of it. LOL
MX_er424 wrote:
"What kind of carb has millions of little holes?" Have you taken apart a carb that wasn't from 1983? Jesus Christ. "And about torque, what do...
"What kind of carb has millions of little holes?"
Have you taken apart a carb that wasn't from 1983? Jesus Christ.

"And about torque, what do you know that I don't?"
That you obviously don't know how valuable it is? Huurr duurr I wonder why nobody is riding a ultra-light 2-stroke if weight is so important? Oh yea, because of a thing called TORQUE. Gee I wonder how Roczen throws around that "omg 231 lb tank!!1" like an 80? Amazing.

"So, you know for a fact that the JDR KTM Team went to the line with a dead damn battery when they supposedly had the same issue earlier in the day?"
Can you read? Did I post that? You're the one who posted that you fucking idiot. Are you literally retarded?
The pumper carbs on my 250F's don't have millions of holes, neither does the carb on our 08 KTM144.

There's more torque from a double displacement four stroke? Wow, who'da thunkit. CC/CC the 2 stroke kills the 4 in torque.

And for you last little gem, here's what I wrote

"Recently someone commented that the e-start would make the difference between winning and losing. I guess we saw that tonight. No kick start and a dead battery?? Has anything been confirmed on the mechanical yet?"

I at least know what question marks mean. Oh the irony in your post.
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I still don't understand how people can justify that equal displacement is a fair comparison
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I still don't understand how people can justify that equal displacement is a fair comparison
Yet double displacement is?
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Nope.

Really, displacement comparison is stupid.
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The pumper carbs on my 250F's don't have millions of holes, neither does the carb on our 08 KTM144. There's more torque from a double displacement...
The pumper carbs on my 250F's don't have millions of holes, neither does the carb on our 08 KTM144.

There's more torque from a double displacement four stroke? Wow, who'da thunkit. CC/CC the 2 stroke kills the 4 in torque.

And for you last little gem, here's what I wrote

"Recently someone commented that the e-start would make the difference between winning and losing. I guess we saw that tonight. No kick start and a dead battery?? Has anything been confirmed on the mechanical yet?"

I at least know what question marks mean. Oh the irony in your post.
It's like arguing with a wall...a retarded wall that tries to make ambiguous statements sound like facts and then gets all twisted when backtracking and avoids any facts. Good job putting question marks after a statement. I assume you missed school?
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Holy shit did this thread stir up some ignorance. GuyB time to get busy here. Click. Click.
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MX_er424 wrote:
It's like arguing with a wall...a retarded wall that tries to make ambiguous statements sound like facts and then gets all twisted when backtracking and avoids...
It's like arguing with a wall...a retarded wall that tries to make ambiguous statements sound like facts and then gets all twisted when backtracking and avoids any facts. Good job putting question marks after a statement. I assume you missed school?
It was a pretty simple question actually that most anyone with half a brain could understand.

I have a business aquaintance who is on his fourth wife. He once said that if this one ends in divorce that he may have to consider that he might be the problem. Go read a few of your posts and that might make sense to you. Everyone on here is a fucking moron and a retard except for you? LMAO.
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people just need to read before they reply.... im 9 years old and i understand that....how old are you again..5/
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people just need to read before they reply.... im 9 years old and i understand that....how old are you again..5/
Well played......
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This thread started off decent then I got lost with the arguing......Huh
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people just need to read before they reply.... im 9 years old and i understand that....how old are you again..5/
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Well played......
I WILL THANK YOU AND HAVE A WONDERFUL NIGHT

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