250 Two Stroke Porn

TerryK
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2/21/2012 9:01pm
Awesome YZ! I'm jealous! Good luck at the Nats!

PS: Is that kawi for sale?
burn1986
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2/21/2012 9:09pm
I thought MXA mentioned up to 150cc allowed in the pros. If they're wrong, this is great news.
CamP
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2/21/2012 9:34pm
burn1986 wrote:
I thought MXA mentioned up to 150cc allowed in the pros. If they're wrong, this is great news.
Apparently, the CMRC will allow 250 2-strokes in the MX2 class for 2012.
Prairieboy43
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2/22/2012 1:55am
Happy that I still have my 2002 yz250. Not sure what to do with my cr125? Not competitive anywhere if I have to start last all the time.

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2/22/2012 2:24am
burn1986 wrote:
I thought MXA mentioned up to 150cc allowed in the pros. If they're wrong, this is great news.
C'mon man, I thought you would have been all over this rule change. There was a bit made of it. I was really hoping to see a thread or two on either this site or possibly a couple of other sites, about a good rider taking on the 250f's in the canadian nationals on a well set up two stroke. Well this is an awesome start. Bike is really well built, making BIG HP, and a rider committed to training and being ready to go come race day. Best of luck, and look forward to seeing some pics and vids, and most importantly some good race results.
robot870
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2/22/2012 5:40am
WOW! Thats just so nice.....Good luck,
2/22/2012 6:36am
burn1986 wrote:
I thought MXA mentioned up to 150cc allowed in the pros. If they're wrong, this is great news.
CamP wrote:
Apparently, the CMRC will allow 250 2-strokes in the MX2 class for 2012.
Yes and no. As mentioned earlier, the mx2 class is a pro/am class which means that intermediates can sign up to race the mx2 nationals. The new 2stroke rule says that for the mx2 class, intermediates can run up to 250cc bikes and pros up to 153cc.

And to the op, I wish you good luck and I'll be cheering for you in ste-julie. I strongly suggest you get rid of the OEM tires, chain and footpegs (oem 4stroke pegs are actually pretty nice)
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2/22/2012 6:40am
yzweldon wrote:
And when the AMA grows a pair of balls we can get the same rules for AMA Nationals and Stupidcross
OEM's have a good chokehold on things here in the US. Don't disrupt the apple cart dammit, the sheep have been brainwashe.....uh, trained.Wink
three9zero
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2/22/2012 7:08am Edited Date/Time 2/22/2012 7:08am
Sweet ride. I cant wait to see if you can "stick it to the man" on the smoker.
ford832
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2/22/2012 8:45am
burn1986 wrote:
I thought MXA mentioned up to 150cc allowed in the pros. If they're wrong, this is great news.
CamP wrote:
Apparently, the CMRC will allow 250 2-strokes in the MX2 class for 2012.
Sheriff245 wrote:
Yes and no. As mentioned earlier, the mx2 class is a pro/am class which means that intermediates can sign up to race the mx2 nationals. The...
Yes and no. As mentioned earlier, the mx2 class is a pro/am class which means that intermediates can sign up to race the mx2 nationals. The new 2stroke rule says that for the mx2 class, intermediates can run up to 250cc bikes and pros up to 153cc.

And to the op, I wish you good luck and I'll be cheering for you in ste-julie. I strongly suggest you get rid of the OEM tires, chain and footpegs (oem 4stroke pegs are actually pretty nice)
The way I read it,it's up to the CMRC whether or not they let an int race with the pros.
By pro regs,the max 2t is a 144 in the MX2 class
If you earn a national #,you are automatically bumped to pro which means,if you did this and got a number,you could only do it for one year.
If the CMRC decides you should be a pro,they can bump you up.
I hope it works out but it wouldn't surprise me to see Stallybras wag his finger and say"Oh no you don't"
themrtoad
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2/22/2012 10:25am
beautiful bike. Best of luck from Sweden
2/22/2012 10:34am
ford832 wrote:
The way I read it,it's up to the CMRC whether or not they let an int race with the pros. By pro regs,the max 2t is...
The way I read it,it's up to the CMRC whether or not they let an int race with the pros.
By pro regs,the max 2t is a 144 in the MX2 class
If you earn a national #,you are automatically bumped to pro which means,if you did this and got a number,you could only do it for one year.
If the CMRC decides you should be a pro,they can bump you up.
I hope it works out but it wouldn't surprise me to see Stallybras wag his finger and say"Oh no you don't"
The AMXQ had it re-formulated before posting it on their site. The rule is as I described it. If an int earns a national number on a 250, he has to get rid of it for the next season or race the mx1 class.
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2/22/2012 1:42pm
Nice looking machine you got there man -- beautiful!
2/22/2012 1:54pm
Sick for sure. Can't wait to see some videos of you in action!
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2/22/2012 2:20pm
Lake wrote:
Nice bike for sure. From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in...
Nice bike for sure.

From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in regional races. Are you sure you can run them in MX2 in pro nationals?
TOYE180 wrote:
positive. i am sponsored through yamaha directly and they know my goals and plans for this year.
Yamaha called .... change your avatar or bring the bike back.


Good luck on the new scooter.
mdub45
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2/22/2012 2:24pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2012 2:37pm
Lake wrote:
Nice bike for sure. From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in...
Nice bike for sure.

From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in regional races. Are you sure you can run them in MX2 in pro nationals?
That's the way I thought I read it too. Either way, nice bike, best of luck to ya, wish you were racing the Wests!!
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2/22/2012 2:35pm
No it's Nationals for sure. For Intermediate level riders only though. And they are allowed to qualify for the MX2 class at the Nats. Pros in the MX2 class must ride a 250f OR A 125 two stroke. Confused?
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2/23/2012 3:37pm
hey guys, jeff from D4 in ont can here. i ve never posted on here before, but after seeing bens posts i thought id chime in.
it was a treat to work with him and his dad again. we had a clear idea of what we needed to accomplish and they gave us time to do the job right. i really didnt expect to gain as much as we did. this is a pump gas motor! i milled .2 off the head and thats it! the rest is in porting/pipe/ vforce/ and oh yeah... the 40mm taper carb we did... hehe. i know 57 seem high, but we ran before and after. 450 hondas make 48 stk on my dyno and 55-58 mod.

best of luck in ga/al/fla training ben- see ya when you get back- ride safe!... .and maybe we'll talk about that flywheel weight...
Motodrew295
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2/23/2012 4:41pm
I would have though vital would have been all over this news.

Nice bike OP, Kinda makes me wish I had Intermediate standing so I could drop down to the MX2 and moto my YZed.

Is it a coincidence that Honda does not have a big presence in canada at all, and Yamaha and KTM are the major players?
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2/23/2012 4:45pm
TOYE180 wrote:
Hey guys, Race season is around the corner up here in Canada and I just picked up my new bike a few weeks ago. I am...
Hey guys,

Race season is around the corner up here in Canada and I just picked up my new bike a few weeks ago. I am an intermediate rider taking the advantage of the new rule CMRC came out with. The rule states that riders can race 250 two strokes in the MX2 classes. In Canada we as intermediates can race pro nationals in the MX2 because it is considered a "pro/am" class. I plan on racing the 5 eastern rounds in the MX2 pro class. 250 vs. 250.


Now for the set up.....


Picked up a brand new 2012 YZ 250 from Machine Racing


Sure does have an ugly stock exhaust system!!


I dropped it off at my engine builder D4 Performance and told him to build me a "250-f killer"
He sure built me one....





We tested different motor settings on the dyno and came up with an awesome setting. I made sure that i was able to run pump gas to save some coin until we do some more mods for the race season. The bike is currently spec'd for pump gas and pushes 54 HP.
The best setting we had was with 110 and we got great results.....
Stock Motor vs. D4 Modified Motor + Race Fuel

57.5 HP!

Surprisingly the best exhaust set up was the FMF factory fatty with the stock silencer. The stock silencer gave it more ponies and it revved out marginally further. The FMF titanium 2 is a short pipe and DOES have a much larger hit in the torque region.

Now as far as mods to the engine and carb go.... i have no idea what he did. I know how to twist the throttle and change the filter. But here is the list of bolt on parts we got for it:
- FMF factory fatty pipe
- FMF titanium 2 silencer
- Light speed disc cover
- Light speed glide plate
- Works connection radiator braces
- Works connection pro perch
- Sunline brake lever
- IMS wide pegs
- Excel Rims
- V4ORCE reeds
- Boyeson ignition and clutch cover
- Hinson clutch
- Some sort of over sized disc


Thought some of you two stroke fans would like a story like this! Hope you enjoyed! Hopefully i get some TV coverage with some massive holeshots!! !Silly .
she is beautiful
Huckster
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2/23/2012 5:01pm
so if you are an A rider in the states and come up to race the canadian nationals, can you ride a 250 two stroke in the 250 class?
OSJ
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2/23/2012 5:03pm
looks good, just curious as to hom much $$$ are into the total bike. with the cost of the new bike? it makes for a good price comaparison.
sec114
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2/23/2012 5:34pm
good luck there
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2/23/2012 6:04pm
d4perf wrote:
hey guys, jeff from D4 in ont can here. i ve never posted on here before, but after seeing bens posts i thought id chime in...
hey guys, jeff from D4 in ont can here. i ve never posted on here before, but after seeing bens posts i thought id chime in.
it was a treat to work with him and his dad again. we had a clear idea of what we needed to accomplish and they gave us time to do the job right. i really didnt expect to gain as much as we did. this is a pump gas motor! i milled .2 off the head and thats it! the rest is in porting/pipe/ vforce/ and oh yeah... the 40mm taper carb we did... hehe. i know 57 seem high, but we ran before and after. 450 hondas make 48 stk on my dyno and 55-58 mod.

best of luck in ga/al/fla training ben- see ya when you get back- ride safe!... .and maybe we'll talk about that flywheel weight...
Hay Jeff..post some info like phone number..web-site incase we need to ship you guys a motor...Thanks
8/4/2013 6:25am
I was trying the find the best dyno for a YZ 250, and it looks like I have found it. I guess it is also possible to pull holeshots vs. stock (or just with exhaust) 450s, it makes as much power or more power for 7 to 11 kg less...

My question is:

how long lasts such an engine?
8/4/2013 7:48am
Lake wrote:
Nice bike for sure. From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in...
Nice bike for sure.

From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in regional races. Are you sure you can run them in MX2 in pro nationals?
TOYE180 wrote:
positive. i am sponsored through yamaha directly and they know my goals and plans for this year.
I would encourage you to preemptively change out the shift stop lever with one with a solid roller. The bearing breaks and causes shifting problems as well as broken metal debris that can cause a lot of damage before you know it. My friends kid races yz250s, happened to both his bikes on a regular basis. Just google yz broken shift stop levers and you find threads and pics. Changed out and no more problems. Yamaha changed the 125 as it was a problem with that motor as well but never did with the 250.
TM
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8/4/2013 8:01am
Lake wrote:
Nice bike for sure. From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in...
Nice bike for sure.

From what i understand the CMRC's new rule meant that you could only run 250 two strokers in the MX2 class in regional races. Are you sure you can run them in MX2 in pro nationals?
TOYE180 wrote:
positive. i am sponsored through yamaha directly and they know my goals and plans for this year.
ToolMaker wrote:
I would encourage you to preemptively change out the shift stop lever with one with a solid roller. The bearing breaks and causes shifting problems as...
I would encourage you to preemptively change out the shift stop lever with one with a solid roller. The bearing breaks and causes shifting problems as well as broken metal debris that can cause a lot of damage before you know it. My friends kid races yz250s, happened to both his bikes on a regular basis. Just google yz broken shift stop levers and you find threads and pics. Changed out and no more problems. Yamaha changed the 125 as it was a problem with that motor as well but never did with the 250.
TM
1 1/2 year old thread, this bike is probably scattered to pieces by now. I never did look to see how he finished last year in Canada or if he even raced.
8/4/2013 8:29am
there's a good argument for coffee first internet second
8/4/2013 10:42am
When does your series start?
Do you have any idea what TV or web coverage there might be?
Shawn142
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8/4/2013 10:52am
sclark309d wrote:
When does your series start?
Do you have any idea what TV or web coverage there might be?
Bro... look at the date of the original post.

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