Number 3 leaves the AMA SX Championship because the WC is more important!

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Sherwood 1/31/2012 7:29am
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For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to...
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to shit they both make the trek across the pond with semi lackluster results. For whatever reasons, they just couldn't get it done over there. Some will say it was shitty teams and bikes but then again the same ones will say there is no talent over there either. Upon their return here to the states, I was pretty amazed at the speed they were showing. Brownie's corner speed in SX was crazy fast and super aggresive. Both also ended up in some championship battles to the end. Brown snagged one, Hughes barely missed out and possibly could have nailed one had Troy not been cancelled. Yes I said possibly. Also, Hughes was still on a 125 outdoors while the 250F's were starting to dominate.
I think most of us are simply replying to a dumb comment with other dumb comments.
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Moto Soul Mag 1/31/2012 7:57am
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Don't understand the debate. I guess it's just good old fashioned Nationalism.
You'd have to be insane to call the GPs some type of easy alternative. Watch the races. The tracks are more like a GNCC than motocross- for 45 minutes. You've got to be an extremely tough bastard to win over there.
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newmann wrote:
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to...
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to shit they both make the trek across the pond with semi lackluster results. For whatever reasons, they just couldn't get it done over there. Some will say it was shitty teams and bikes but then again the same ones will say there is no talent over there either. Upon their return here to the states, I was pretty amazed at the speed they were showing. Brownie's corner speed in SX was crazy fast and super aggresive. Both also ended up in some championship battles to the end. Brown snagged one, Hughes barely missed out and possibly could have nailed one had Troy not been cancelled. Yes I said possibly. Also, Hughes was still on a 125 outdoors while the 250F's were starting to dominate.
But America wins in MXdN!
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MtnBoy 1/31/2012 9:20am
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pilotdude wrote:
That age rule is some seriously stupid stuff.
Eh, I don't think so, the little bike class is supposed to be a "feeder" class, the age rule helps accomplish that
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kongols 1/31/2012 9:21am
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pilotdude wrote:
That age rule is some seriously stupid stuff.
MtnBoy wrote:
Eh, I don't think so, the little bike class is supposed to be a "feeder" class, the age rule helps accomplish that
There is nothing "feeder" about that class anymore.
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CamP 1/31/2012 9:35am
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I rode with two GP racers from Latvia last weekend, Ivo Steinbergs and Davis Ivanovs. Those guys haul ass.
Crisp BRAAAP! 1/31/2012 9:41am
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newmann wrote:
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to...
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to shit they both make the trek across the pond with semi lackluster results. For whatever reasons, they just couldn't get it done over there. Some will say it was shitty teams and bikes but then again the same ones will say there is no talent over there either. Upon their return here to the states, I was pretty amazed at the speed they were showing. Brownie's corner speed in SX was crazy fast and super aggresive. Both also ended up in some championship battles to the end. Brown snagged one, Hughes barely missed out and possibly could have nailed one had Troy not been cancelled. Yes I said possibly. Also, Hughes was still on a 125 outdoors while the 250F's were starting to dominate.
With all due respect, their rides went to shit for a reason. Not to take anything away from the GPs, but it's probably not fair to use the comparison with riders at that point in their career. I'd say the same is true for Zach: he probably wasn't training the way he needed to at that point, but he's put in the work and now it's showing. He's ready to come back home and now he'll have a great ride. And I can't wait. I am a huge fan of the real 338.
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kongols 1/31/2012 10:17am
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CamP wrote:
I rode with two GP racers from Latvia last weekend, Ivo Steinbergs and Davis Ivanovs. Those guys haul ass.
There is better here in Latvia.
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mxgeoff 1/31/2012 10:19am
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until his contract is up and he gets to return to his home country where he makes probably more money and races the best racers in...
until his contract is up and he gets to return to his home country where he makes probably more money and races the best racers in the world every weekend.
PROBABLY makes more money. Glad you said that, and not WILL make more money. Times have changed, it isn't like it was 5 years ago.
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mxgeoff 1/31/2012 10:22am
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newmann wrote:
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to...
For everyone downplaying the talent in the GP's, any of you remember Ryan Hughes and Mike Brown? When their rides here in the states went to shit they both make the trek across the pond with semi lackluster results. For whatever reasons, they just couldn't get it done over there. Some will say it was shitty teams and bikes but then again the same ones will say there is no talent over there either. Upon their return here to the states, I was pretty amazed at the speed they were showing. Brownie's corner speed in SX was crazy fast and super aggresive. Both also ended up in some championship battles to the end. Brown snagged one, Hughes barely missed out and possibly could have nailed one had Troy not been cancelled. Yes I said possibly. Also, Hughes was still on a 125 outdoors while the 250F's were starting to dominate.
I agree with most of what you said, but Brown rode awesome in the 2000 World 125cc Championship and was as good as Grant Langston and James Dobb on many occasions. Then went home and won an AMA 125cc title. I wouldn't say he had lacklust results in Europe. Hughes was also strong in I think 1999. I agree though, the GP riders are fast.
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jamma10 1/31/2012 10:30am
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Whenever I think of Mike Brown I think of him riding a 125cc CAT Honda and always up near the front.
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Fishing or not, I always like it when good US riders participate in the GP:s
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jtomasik 1/31/2012 12:05pm
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MXMattii wrote:
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the...
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the world championship is more important!

It is crazy but so beautiful!

Wow. You're from Europe. I never saw that coming.
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mxgeoff 1/31/2012 12:19pm
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MXMattii wrote:
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the...
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the world championship is more important!

It is crazy but so beautiful!

GuyB wrote:
He's going to do what his primary focus is, and what he's contracted to do. This was a cool field trip for him. Going to Europe...
He's going to do what his primary focus is, and what he's contracted to do. This was a cool field trip for him. Going to Europe (and a lot of hard work on his part) revived his career for sure. And next year? He'll be back racing in the U.S. full-time.
Did you sign him in your team?
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GuyB 1/31/2012 12:29pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
Did you sign him in your team?
No, that would require actually having a team. I'll save that for the people who have those kinds of resources. Smile
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mxgeoff 1/31/2012 12:44pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
Did you sign him in your team?
GuyB wrote:
No, that would require actually having a team. I'll save that for the people who have those kinds of resources. Smile
That kid deserves a ride on Pro Circuit or KTM. I hope he gets a ride worthy of his work ethic and determination. Not too many young American's would race in Europe with the easy going nature Osborne has.
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TripleDigit 1/31/2012 12:49pm
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jamma10 wrote:
Whenever I think of Mike Brown I think of him riding a 125cc CAT Honda and always up near the front.
I used to go mainly to watch Brown screaming that Honda,it was absolute abuse! CAT Honda were a great team,shame Brown didn't get a World title,still 3rd place ain't bad at all along with a British Championship victory
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Prairieboy43 1/31/2012 12:50pm
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MXMattii wrote:
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the...
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the world championship is more important!

It is crazy but so beautiful!

First or Last baby. He won't win anyway. Tomac and Wilson are too fast. Evil Evil
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Lucifa. 1/31/2012 1:02pm
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MXMattii wrote:
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the...
Yeah guys never thought that I would say this but!! Zach Osborne, 3rd in the AMA West coast Supercross Championship is leaving this championship because the world championship is more important!

It is crazy but so beautiful!

Prairieboy43 wrote:
First or Last baby. He won't win anyway. Tomac and Wilson are too fast. Evil Evil
Surely not. Have you not read this entire thread? Some guys on here have just told us that that the GPs are a second rate series that you can just take it slow and not get injured. I expect Zach to come back with a world title since it's so easy!
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Lucifa. wrote:
Surely not. Have you not read this entire thread? Some guys on here have just told us that that the GPs are a second rate series...
Surely not. Have you not read this entire thread? Some guys on here have just told us that that the GPs are a second rate series that you can just take it slow and not get injured. I expect Zach to come back with a world title since it's so easy!
Has not happened yet. He has been there how many years, 1 or 2?? I think it took Brad Lackey 8+ years to win a World Championship. The World Champs are in the series, ( Musquin & Rattray), they are not winning supercross titles, yet! There is one Anomoly however. JMB(Jean Micheal Bayle). Maybe the best motorcyclist ever, (that is a another debate).
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Lucifa. wrote:
Surely not. Have you not read this entire thread? Some guys on here have just told us that that the GPs are a second rate series...
Surely not. Have you not read this entire thread? Some guys on here have just told us that that the GPs are a second rate series that you can just take it slow and not get injured. I expect Zach to come back with a world title since it's so easy!
Prairieboy43 wrote:
Has not happened yet. He has been there how many years, 1 or 2?? I think it took Brad Lackey 8+ years to win a World...
Has not happened yet. He has been there how many years, 1 or 2?? I think it took Brad Lackey 8+ years to win a World Championship. The World Champs are in the series, ( Musquin & Rattray), they are not winning supercross titles, yet! There is one Anomoly however. JMB(Jean Micheal Bayle). Maybe the best motorcyclist ever, (that is a another debate).
Danny Laporte won the 1982 250 world championship his first year in the GPs
Charles Bronson 1/31/2012 2:50pm
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kongols wrote:
There is better here in Latvia.
I know the one guy in Latvia who's name DOESN'T end with an "S".


Beat that.
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kongols 1/31/2012 2:54pm
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kongols wrote:
There is better here in Latvia.
Charles Bronson wrote:
I know the one guy in Latvia who's name DOESN'T end with an "S".


Beat that.
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MX Sports Medicine 1/31/2012 3:32pm
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MXMattii wrote:
And now I know why Zach isn't on the American MXDN team!! Those bloody idiots from the AMA are thinking he is BRITISH!
shredder23 wrote:
to be honest, you sound like a fucking retarded euro
You sound like a Tard period,
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APLMAN99 1/31/2012 3:32pm
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From the title it sounds like Ryan Villopoto is heading to Europe?
TripleDigit 1/31/2012 4:04pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
From the title it sounds like Ryan Villopoto is heading to Europe?
He's quoted as liking to do that sometime which is pretty cool,smart comments aside

Zach for PC btw
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CamP 1/31/2012 7:44pm
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CamP wrote:
I rode with two GP racers from Latvia last weekend, Ivo Steinbergs and Davis Ivanovs. Those guys haul ass.
kongols wrote:
There is better here in Latvia.
I wouldn't now. They're both cool kids and definitely fast. Davis impressed me with his speed. He's young so he seems to have a lot of potential.
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JB 19 1/31/2012 8:01pm
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MXMattii wrote:
And now I know why Zach isn't on the American MXDN team!! Those bloody idiots from the AMA are thinking he is BRITISH!
GuyB wrote:
Mattii...which license do you think he's riding on while he's here?
MXMattii wrote:
Are you guys still working like that?? Here in Europe you have Russians with Dutch license... Then you see on there papers: KNMV License - Russian...
Are you guys still working like that?? Here in Europe you have Russians with Dutch license...
Then you see on there papers: KNMV License - Russian... No other thing. We quite that stuff in 1992 I think because Jacky Martens was riding a Luxembourg license and he couldn't go to the MXDN with Belgium because of that license. So they said: License and nationality are two different things from now on!
I give up, we all thought Zack Osbourne was British.

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