Pastrana VS Stewart

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At the risk of being flamed. I don't think I've seen it posted before but has any noticed any similarities? I couldn't say Stewart has to many other things on his mind but I wonder if his mind wanders like TP had said his did. OK Flame on
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i don't think so but i don't know him personally, so it could be plausible.
Cole_Ughetti 1/16/2012 6:17pm
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neither can seem to focus for twenty laps without biting it
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yzvet426 wrote:
At the risk of being flamed. I don't think I've seen it posted before but has any noticed any similarities? I couldn't say Stewart has to...
At the risk of being flamed. I don't think I've seen it posted before but has any noticed any similarities? I couldn't say Stewart has to many other things on his mind but I wonder if his mind wanders like TP had said his did. OK Flame on
No, there are no comparisons IMO.


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Charles Bronson 1/16/2012 6:23pm
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Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was AFTER about his 4rd or 5th concussion, SO I HEARD.

i dont know how much truth there is to that though, but i would say it does not sound too far fetched, which is why he started doing something that paid well, which amounts to nothing more than dicking off for a minute or 2 (fmx) highly skilled dicking off.
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Charles Bronson wrote:
Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was...
Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was AFTER about his 4rd or 5th concussion, SO I HEARD.

i dont know how much truth there is to that though, but i would say it does not sound too far fetched, which is why he started doing something that paid well, which amounts to nothing more than dicking off for a minute or 2 (fmx) highly skilled dicking off.
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EvanR127 1/16/2012 7:10pm
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So pastrana who didn't focus on racing to become the king of FMX is equal to stewart who just doesn't focus on racing.........
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I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on the track.
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C'mon Racer92, how many national titles does it take to equal "lots?" More than 3? But you have a point, they have some similarities, though I wouldn't call outside interests "distractions," particularly in Pastrana's case. That man just wants to have fun on his bike, and figured out that people would pay to see him away from the AMA circus, er, circuits...

Funny part is, it's not too late for James to become the first African American FMX star, lol....
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Charles Bronson wrote:
Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was...
Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was AFTER about his 4rd or 5th concussion, SO I HEARD.

i dont know how much truth there is to that though, but i would say it does not sound too far fetched, which is why he started doing something that paid well, which amounts to nothing more than dicking off for a minute or 2 (fmx) highly skilled dicking off.
I think what's more realistic than that is to just say he didn't enjoy spending the daily grind in racing. He could definitely stay focused for 20 laps, it's through the seasons and years that got to him.

You can't honestly say that he can't stay focused because of ADD, considering he's a multi-time champion in rally, which I would argue requires way more focus than any sort of motocross racing.
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I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on...
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on the track.
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National title, 2 AMA SX titles, 1 (maybe 2) World SX titles. Sounds like a lot of titles to me. There aren't many guys that have him beat.


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ADD is a fictitious disease. That is to say the entire "theory" is based on a "chemical imbalance" that has no test and nobody can put forth any and I mean any real scientific proof that is does exist. BUT people do have different abilities to focus as can be seen by the "Greats". As physical as motocross is, the great champions have an above level mental ability. I mean how many people could show up at an arena with one race left, tied for first and not just commence crapping on themselves. The top guys seemed to be rather un-fazed by it all even if they look a little nervous.
It is above normal, and you couple that with talent, drive and a willingness to train yourself within an inch of your life, you get a champion...usually. Sometimes you have good and bad luck but that is a lessor factor.
Schwarzenegger said in his book that most people are not willing to go through the pain. And it's true, training until you pass out or hurl takes a lot.
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It would have been awesome to see Pastrana stay in the 125 class for 3 years instead of 2. Then we'd have gotten to see them battle in the 02 season. I think Stewart beats him for the championship, but at the same time I think Pastrana beats him for some overalls. This would have also given Stewart valuable experience racing with someone of equal speed in his rookie season, something he's obviously struggled with throughout his career.
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Racer92 wrote:
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on...
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on the track.
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James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National...
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National title, 2 AMA SX titles, 1 (maybe 2) World SX titles. Sounds like a lot of titles to me. There aren't many guys that have him beat.


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well theres 12 guys that just beat him the last two weeks P..............LEAVE THAT STUFF IN THE HISTORY BOOKS .....YOUR ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST RACE.
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ADD is a fictitious disease. That is to say the entire "theory" is based on a "chemical imbalance" that has no test and nobody can put...
ADD is a fictitious disease. That is to say the entire "theory" is based on a "chemical imbalance" that has no test and nobody can put forth any and I mean any real scientific proof that is does exist. BUT people do have different abilities to focus as can be seen by the "Greats". As physical as motocross is, the great champions have an above level mental ability. I mean how many people could show up at an arena with one race left, tied for first and not just commence crapping on themselves. The top guys seemed to be rather un-fazed by it all even if they look a little nervous.
It is above normal, and you couple that with talent, drive and a willingness to train yourself within an inch of your life, you get a champion...usually. Sometimes you have good and bad luck but that is a lessor factor.
Schwarzenegger said in his book that most people are not willing to go through the pain. And it's true, training until you pass out or hurl takes a lot.
ADD is ficticious...your f#@%*&...........,theres no chemical inbalance[thats bi-polar] ...........add is attention deficit ...........meaning you lack attention from others ,most importantly ,your parents when growing up ......this is a hereditary disease because its all in the way your brought up and is caused from mostly low self -esteem .........people who have it ,their mind wanders and are always wondering about them selves ....hence the lack of focus ...........people with it usually do stupid shit .........to get the attention they crave ..........J-LAW is a perfect example of a guy with it ........85 % of the people incarerated in the US have it ...........it stems alot from havin no father figure in your life [mine was an alcoholic] ,also a father who puts so much pressure to succeed on you it lowers your self esteem ............look at some of these guys with all the tats .......its for the attention
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Cole_Ughetti wrote:
neither can seem to focus for twenty laps without biting it
Maybe they could if they were riding some sweet motorized bicycles...

Really though, how closely do you watch the race? I bet you're not 2% as focused on watching the race as those two are when they actually do race.
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Racer92 wrote:
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on...
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on the track.
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James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National...
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National title, 2 AMA SX titles, 1 (maybe 2) World SX titles. Sounds like a lot of titles to me. There aren't many guys that have him beat.


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I heard TP has an opening on Nitro Circus.
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Racer92 wrote:
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on...
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on the track.
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James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National...
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National title, 2 AMA SX titles, 1 (maybe 2) World SX titles. Sounds like a lot of titles to me. There aren't many guys that have him beat.


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well theres 12 guys that just beat him the last two weeks P..............LEAVE THAT STUFF IN THE HISTORY BOOKS .....YOUR ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST...
well theres 12 guys that just beat him the last two weeks P..............LEAVE THAT STUFF IN THE HISTORY BOOKS .....YOUR ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST RACE.
What does your point have to do with the fact that James has won many championships and seems to be more than able to focus for 20 laps? That's right nothing.




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P wrote:
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National...
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National title, 2 AMA SX titles, 1 (maybe 2) World SX titles. Sounds like a lot of titles to me. There aren't many guys that have him beat.


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ODB wrote:
well theres 12 guys that just beat him the last two weeks P..............LEAVE THAT STUFF IN THE HISTORY BOOKS .....YOUR ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST...
well theres 12 guys that just beat him the last two weeks P..............LEAVE THAT STUFF IN THE HISTORY BOOKS .....YOUR ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST RACE.
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What does your point have to do with the fact that James has won many championships and seems to be more than able to focus for...
What does your point have to do with the fact that James has won many championships and seems to be more than able to focus for 20 laps? That's right nothing.




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P, you should drop the mic!
Facts speak so loud that I don't need a mic.


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yzvet426 wrote:
At the risk of being flamed. I don't think I've seen it posted before but has any noticed any similarities? I couldn't say Stewart has to...
At the risk of being flamed. I don't think I've seen it posted before but has any noticed any similarities? I couldn't say Stewart has to many other things on his mind but I wonder if his mind wanders like TP had said his did. OK Flame on
he seems less and less interested in the sport, I think he needs to get that back on his mind. Just my opinion.
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huck 1/17/2012 5:26am
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huck wrote:
P, you should drop the mic!
P wrote:
Facts speak so loud that I don't need a mic.


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Like the fact that James is the 7th best Supercross rider this year?
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C'mon Racer92, how many national titles does it take to equal "lots?" More than 3? But you have a point, they have some similarities, though I...
C'mon Racer92, how many national titles does it take to equal "lots?" More than 3? But you have a point, they have some similarities, though I wouldn't call outside interests "distractions," particularly in Pastrana's case. That man just wants to have fun on his bike, and figured out that people would pay to see him away from the AMA circus, er, circuits...

Funny part is, it's not too late for James to become the first African American FMX star, lol....
I know you guys don't keep up with fmx all that much, but Justin Hicks.... Quite a good rider, happens to be African American.



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If Stewart has trouble focusing for 20 laps then he's gonna have a hell of a time focusing in a race car for 3+ hours!
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TannerMxer 1/17/2012 7:56am
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Let's see...

Pastrana:
2000 125cc Motocross Championship
2000 MXDN Champion

Stewart:
2002 125cc Motocross Championship
2003 125cc West Supercross Championship
2004 125cc East Supercross Championship
2004 125cc Motocross Championship
2006 MXDN Champion
2007 450cc Supercross Championship
2008 450cc Motocross Championship (Perfect Season)
2008 MXDN Champion
2009 450cc Supercross Championship

Yeah, their careers warrant an argument. Pfffttttt.... stop smoking the ganj people.

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Racer92 wrote:
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on...
I say they are very similar; incredible talent that hasnt equated to lots of championships due to distractions outside the track, and lots of crashing on the track.
P wrote:
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National...
James - 11 LL's titles, 2 125 SX titles, 2 125 National MX titles and the most National wins in the class, 1 Outdoor 450 National title, 2 AMA SX titles, 1 (maybe 2) World SX titles. Sounds like a lot of titles to me. There aren't many guys that have him beat.


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true...some people just want to hate...
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Mr. G wrote:
ADD is a fictitious disease. That is to say the entire "theory" is based on a "chemical imbalance" that has no test and nobody can put...
ADD is a fictitious disease. That is to say the entire "theory" is based on a "chemical imbalance" that has no test and nobody can put forth any and I mean any real scientific proof that is does exist. BUT people do have different abilities to focus as can be seen by the "Greats". As physical as motocross is, the great champions have an above level mental ability. I mean how many people could show up at an arena with one race left, tied for first and not just commence crapping on themselves. The top guys seemed to be rather un-fazed by it all even if they look a little nervous.
It is above normal, and you couple that with talent, drive and a willingness to train yourself within an inch of your life, you get a champion...usually. Sometimes you have good and bad luck but that is a lessor factor.
Schwarzenegger said in his book that most people are not willing to go through the pain. And it's true, training until you pass out or hurl takes a lot.
You're an idiot...
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Charles Bronson wrote:
Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was...
Pastrana got diagnosed with legitimate attention deficit disorder so severe, he could not focus on the task at hand (riding) for 20 laps, and this was AFTER about his 4rd or 5th concussion, SO I HEARD.

i dont know how much truth there is to that though, but i would say it does not sound too far fetched, which is why he started doing something that paid well, which amounts to nothing more than dicking off for a minute or 2 (fmx) highly skilled dicking off.
Voutare wrote:
I think what's more realistic than that is to just say he didn't enjoy spending the daily grind in racing. He could definitely stay focused for...
I think what's more realistic than that is to just say he didn't enjoy spending the daily grind in racing. He could definitely stay focused for 20 laps, it's through the seasons and years that got to him.

You can't honestly say that he can't stay focused because of ADD, considering he's a multi-time champion in rally, which I would argue requires way more focus than any sort of motocross racing.
I agree with Voutare, the guy is a rally champion, serious focus there.
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C'mon Racer92, how many national titles does it take to equal "lots?" More than 3? But you have a point, they have some similarities, though I...
C'mon Racer92, how many national titles does it take to equal "lots?" More than 3? But you have a point, they have some similarities, though I wouldn't call outside interests "distractions," particularly in Pastrana's case. That man just wants to have fun on his bike, and figured out that people would pay to see him away from the AMA circus, er, circuits...

Funny part is, it's not too late for James to become the first African American FMX star, lol....
Jharper wrote:
I know you guys don't keep up with fmx all that much, but Justin Hicks.... Quite a good rider, happens to be African American. [IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/2d81gnr.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/jv3dqa.jpg[/IMG]...
I know you guys don't keep up with fmx all that much, but Justin Hicks.... Quite a good rider, happens to be African American.



Thank you sir! I was hoping someone would prove me wrong!
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TannerMxer wrote:
Let's see... Pastrana: 2000 125cc Motocross Championship 2000 MXDN Champion Stewart: 2002 125cc Motocross Championship 2003 125cc West Supercross Championship 2004 125cc East Supercross Championship 2004...
Let's see...

Pastrana:
2000 125cc Motocross Championship
2000 MXDN Champion

Stewart:
2002 125cc Motocross Championship
2003 125cc West Supercross Championship
2004 125cc East Supercross Championship
2004 125cc Motocross Championship
2006 MXDN Champion
2007 450cc Supercross Championship
2008 450cc Motocross Championship (Perfect Season)
2008 MXDN Champion
2009 450cc Supercross Championship

Yeah, their careers warrant an argument. Pfffttttt.... stop smoking the ganj people.

Stefan Everts was 2006 MXDN "Champion" not Stewart or any of our guys. America won the war but lost several "battles."

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