2 stroke 4 stroke lap

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 11:43am
Here is a video of me doing a lap at perris on a crf450 and a Ktm 250sx. Not looking to start huge debate, both bikes are a blast to ride, I've never seen videos posted of the same rider on the same track back to back like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBHCvR54fLk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Cool video. It's just amazing how much different the riding style is between the 2 motors.
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StatutoryApe 12/29/2011 2:47pm
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Awesome riding and video either way.
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ATKpilot99 12/29/2011 2:49pm
12/29/2011 2:49pm
I know you're not trying to start a debate but the 4 stroke sounds like a trail bike...Evil Seriously though, nice riding on both machines.
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MBR 12/29/2011 2:49pm
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4 - 5 sec / lap faster on CRF...

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R-acer 12/29/2011 2:50pm
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Looks so much better on the CRF
Charles Bronson 12/29/2011 2:51pm
12/29/2011 2:51pm
you're only using about 15% of that two-stroke. shift it down a gear, keep it finger on the clutch, and rev it out until you see God.
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BobbyM 12/29/2011 2:55pm
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Bronson is GOD
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urbanlift707 12/29/2011 2:57pm
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Yea I'm def way faster on the 450, but my 450 fits me like a glove. I only did one Moto on the Ktm, and I have not ridden a 250 two stroke in years. If I spent more time on the smoker I'm sure I could get pretty close to my 450 speed.
Charles Bronson 12/29/2011 3:03pm
12/29/2011 3:03pm
urbanlift707 wrote:
Yea I'm def way faster on the 450, but my 450 fits me like a glove. I only did one Moto on the Ktm, and I...
Yea I'm def way faster on the 450, but my 450 fits me like a glove. I only did one Moto on the Ktm, and I have not ridden a 250 two stroke in years. If I spent more time on the smoker I'm sure I could get pretty close to my 450 speed.
I wish Tony Cairoli's mother had not passed away....
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Orange724 12/29/2011 3:05pm
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Yeah, looks like you could definately use some practice on that 2 stroke.
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Barrett57 12/29/2011 3:06pm
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Nice riding Cool
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wydopen 12/29/2011 3:09pm
12/29/2011 3:09pm
whos katoom??

i just borrowed my buddies kx250..next time you come up we can do a 3way shootout...125, 250 and 450 haha
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urbanlift707 12/29/2011 3:16pm
12/29/2011 3:16pm
wydopen wrote:
whos katoom??

i just borrowed my buddies kx250..next time you come up we can do a 3way shootout...125, 250 and 450 haha
Let's do that shoot out at glen Helen Saturday!
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Hallzilla 12/29/2011 3:19pm
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Charles Bronson wrote:
you're only using about 15% of that two-stroke. shift it down a gear, keep it finger on the clutch, and rev it out until you see...
you're only using about 15% of that two-stroke. shift it down a gear, keep it finger on the clutch, and rev it out until you see God.
Lets see it.
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peelout 12/29/2011 3:25pm
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awesome video.

i'm a die-hard two stroke guy, grew up racing them and will always love them. finally switched to a 450 a few years ago, and while i love my 450, i kept my 250 because of my love for the riding style. anyway, earlier this year i pulled the 250 out for a day of fun at the track. i was met with disappointment. i couldn't believe how much harder it was to go fast on the 250. the disappointment was from me knowing that i sucked on it, not because it wasn't fun. the bike was super fun, but holy shit i was slow. at one time i was one of the faster guys around on a 250... but the way i rode it, i would have struggled keeping up with a beginner on a 450.

amazing the difference in the two bikes.
Charles Bronson 12/29/2011 3:44pm
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Charles Bronson wrote:
you're only using about 15% of that two-stroke. shift it down a gear, keep it finger on the clutch, and rev it out until you see...
you're only using about 15% of that two-stroke. shift it down a gear, keep it finger on the clutch, and rev it out until you see God.
Hallzilla wrote:
Lets see it.
I've been doing it since the late 80's....

but you can tell teh sad state of motocross when "riding a two stroke in the powerband" is something that could possibly be doubted in the motocross community.

"omg you turned a 250 two stroke wide openzzzz!!!!!!!! im calling bullshit!!!!"

lol, kids.
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SteveS 12/29/2011 4:02pm
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You switched to the 2-stroke and it was suddenly as if you'd seen the light. The sky was brighter, the track didn't look as dark....
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urbanlift707 12/29/2011 4:22pm
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SteveS wrote:
You switched to the 2-stroke and it was suddenly as if you'd seen the light. The sky was brighter, the track didn't look as dark....
hahaha so true

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lilbulld 12/29/2011 4:25pm
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peelout wrote:
awesome video. i'm a die-hard two stroke guy, grew up racing them and will always love them. finally switched to a 450 a few years ago...
awesome video.

i'm a die-hard two stroke guy, grew up racing them and will always love them. finally switched to a 450 a few years ago, and while i love my 450, i kept my 250 because of my love for the riding style. anyway, earlier this year i pulled the 250 out for a day of fun at the track. i was met with disappointment. i couldn't believe how much harder it was to go fast on the 250. the disappointment was from me knowing that i sucked on it, not because it wasn't fun. the bike was super fun, but holy shit i was slow. at one time i was one of the faster guys around on a 250... but the way i rode it, i would have struggled keeping up with a beginner on a 450.

amazing the difference in the two bikes.
So no SX250 in the future?
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peelout 12/29/2011 4:33pm
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peelout wrote:
awesome video. i'm a die-hard two stroke guy, grew up racing them and will always love them. finally switched to a 450 a few years ago...
awesome video.

i'm a die-hard two stroke guy, grew up racing them and will always love them. finally switched to a 450 a few years ago, and while i love my 450, i kept my 250 because of my love for the riding style. anyway, earlier this year i pulled the 250 out for a day of fun at the track. i was met with disappointment. i couldn't believe how much harder it was to go fast on the 250. the disappointment was from me knowing that i sucked on it, not because it wasn't fun. the bike was super fun, but holy shit i was slow. at one time i was one of the faster guys around on a 250... but the way i rode it, i would have struggled keeping up with a beginner on a 450.

amazing the difference in the two bikes.
lilbulld wrote:
So no SX250 in the future?
oh no, i'm definitely still in the market. my 250 is a very worn 2001.

i was just saying i never realized how big of a difference it was. with a little time on a new 250sx i think i could be right at the same speed... but it would definitely be harder
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Faceaz 12/29/2011 4:34pm
12/29/2011 4:34pm
Great videos - Thanks,

It looks pretty clear you're more accustomed to the 450, but I'm sure had a blast on both.
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machine 12/29/2011 5:08pm
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The guys problem is he's still riding the 2-stroke the same as his 4-stroke. He should be carving the inside lines instead of railing the outside lines and taking wide arcs like he does on the 4-stroke. In all fairness, it's hard to jump from one to the other and adjust your riding style so quickly.
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urbanlift707 12/29/2011 6:28pm
12/29/2011 6:28pm
Honestly the hardest thing for me to adapt to was the feel of the Ktm, if that motor was stuffed into my Honda frame it would have been a different story. The Ktm just feels different
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exsarg 12/30/2011 8:05am
12/30/2011 8:05am
for 3 years i had 3 bikes , 450, 250f, 250 2str. all yamahas. i race vet a. lap times on all 3 bikes were within a second or so. obviously hilly sandy tracks favour the obvious. one thing i noticed is that i could jump from the 2 str to either 4 str easily. but if i rode the 4 strokes for several rides i would need a full hr on the 2 str to get used to it. cool vid. thanks

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