Damn, RD let JLAW have it in the PC

durrow wrote:

My two cents: I think Dungey may have a great revenge strategy. Ryan starts messing with JLaw and JLaw will eventually do something stupid. If it's...

My two cents:

I think Dungey may have a great revenge strategy. Ryan starts messing with JLaw and JLaw will eventually do something stupid. If it's stupid enough then JLaw will lose his AMA license and Dungey will get the last laugh.

Heck, I won't be surprised if RV and RD are going to work together to make sure JLaw is never an issue again.

835 wrote:

500 Guy all due respect to the fact that you have been on these boards forever but I don't think you remeber what it was like...

500 Guy

all due respect to the fact that you have been on these boards forever but I don't think you remeber what it was like when you were 16. You had a good post count on Freshdirt be for I got there.

When you where that age if you went on a trip you had shaperones.
JLaws Shaperones dropped the ball.(Like JS said) He is 16 (17?) he is out there looking for trouble just like I was at his age. I just didn't get caught (well accually I did but the media is buch harsher than a good ass beating). I rolled many a cars and I still became a good member of the public.

If yamaha knows he has trouble keeping out of trouble then hier a babysitter and keep your investment on the right track.

I think this is an issue everywhere we are giving all this power to under age kids. Give the money to the parents till there of age then when they are concidered adults give them the rains. But Yamaha still needs to watch over there own investment.

mx836 wrote:

I highly doubt anybody has plans to try and get rid of J-law, and if they did, that would make them total pussys for not wanting...

I highly doubt anybody has plans to try and get rid of J-law, and if they did, that would make them total pussys for not wanting to race against one of the best in the lites class. Everybody keeps ripping on J-law saying he is pissing his career away. Perhaps some of you have forgot that he just won a sx championship! Yeah, he does stupid shit, but as far as I see it's only affected one of his races so far this year. One too many, but only one.

mx836 wrote:

I highly doubt anybody has plans to try and get rid of J-law, and if they did, that would make them total pussys for not wanting...

I highly doubt anybody has plans to try and get rid of J-law, and if they did, that would make them total pussys for not wanting to race against one of the best in the lites class. Everybody keeps ripping on J-law saying he is pissing his career away. Perhaps some of you have forgot that he just won a sx championship! Yeah, he does stupid shit, but as far as I see it's only affected one of his races so far this year. One too many, but only one.

jtomasik wrote:

He is pissing his career away. This sport rewards multiple champions in the big bores who are dedicated to the sport. No doubt J-Law has talent...

He is pissing his career away. This sport rewards multiple champions in the big bores who are dedicated to the sport. No doubt J-Law has talent. But, to consistently beat guys who have the work ethic of riders like Stew and Villopoto is going to require more than what J-Law's been putting out.

Oh, getting a Lites SX championship isn't a sign of longevity in MX. Let's talk apples to apples.

Jabjr222 wrote:

JLaw is a freaking idiot. How can anybody defend him? Yeah he won the west coast SX but really, how big of a deal is that...

JLaw is a freaking idiot. How can anybody defend him? Yeah he won the west coast SX but really, how big of a deal is that? You take the best riders and split them between the coasts. Did JLaw have to fight with RV for the championship or with TC? Nope. They picked the coast that RV wasn't running. I don't think the REGIONAL supercross counts for shit. How many riders have won a REGIONAL SX title and then start to fade away? More than that have made it on big bikes, that's for sure.

Nope, JLaw is an idiot and I agree with everything RD said (and RD is an initial not a nickname as previously argued in this thread). And this bullshit that Ryan is only saying something now because Jlaw is on probation? Well, JLaw is the one dumb enough to get himself on probation. And if he didn't get himself in trouble with the RV stuff last year, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. But he has displayed a consistent pattern of getting into trouble.

Jlaw won't be around in 5 years when RD is winning 450 championships. And that is really fine with me.

Camp332 wrote:

2008 SX Lites Champ. Won the first moto of the 2008 lites outdoor season. Ryan Dungey wishes he can claim these facts.

35smom wrote:

Come on...you know he has been training and AGAIN for the millionth time he should have know better than to get drunk before the race (and...

Come on...you know he has been training and AGAIN for the millionth time he should have know better than to get drunk before the race (and I really dont think that had happened before any other national)....and have you heard him whine about that yet, no in fact he makes funny comments about it right?

My take on the Dungey comment.....thats what drove Jay out of the gate to a 3rd place start the second moto. I was doing timing in sections of the track to see the gap between him and first place. After he passed McFarland he was 5 secs behind RV. When he reached the next point of the timing section he was less than 4, he went out of my sight into the woods and his bike blew......im sure he was thinking of Dungey the whole time!!! lol

txmxer wrote:

my comments are hypothetical and in response to bogdan who seems to be whining that JLaw is on probation and can't defend himself...I say do it...

my comments are hypothetical and in response to bogdan who seems to be whining that JLaw is on probation and can't defend himself...I say do it on the track.

In regards to " thinking of Dungey the whole time", I'm not following you. Weren't those comments at the post race press conference? Or are you saying the JL has been after RD since whenever? If JL is coming after Dungey, then it kind of makes your take on the pass sound pretty bias (you said it was just racing, now you say JL had an issue with Dungey before the PC comments).

Help me out here Mom...clarify for me what you are saying.

35smom wrote:

I should have said comments like that (cause he was saying that in the pits LONG before he said it in public everyone heard him) what...

I should have said comments like that (cause he was saying that in the pits LONG before he said it in public everyone heard him) what im saying is with all the crap that Jay and Dungey went thru during supercross and then their get together the first moto.....I think Dungey is on his mind alot. Thats all. And as for do it on the the track.....that leads back to where this started, the whining crap!!! Jays not looking for trouble on the track he just wants to win (like the rest) but hes not gonna take anyones crap either. Lets just hope for at least a few races where RV, Jay, Dungey Stroupe, Canard, Izzi and a few others are in the then top 10 battling. It would be awesome.

Camp332 wrote:

2008 SX Lites Champ. Won the first moto of the 2008 lites outdoor season. Ryan Dungey wishes he can claim these facts.

jtomasik wrote:

Doesn't take away from the obvious that J-Law's going to piss away his talent if he keeps it up. There are a lot of guys with...

Doesn't take away from the obvious that J-Law's going to piss away his talent if he keeps it up. There are a lot of guys with less talent and better work ethic, and that counts for a lot. Don't believe me? Ask Stew to tell you about a guy named RC.

J-Law's gonna get his azz handed to him to those that want it more. I'm glad our sport naturally filters out the undisciplined.

835 wrote:

500 Guy all due respect to the fact that you have been on these boards forever but I don't think you remeber what it was like...

500 Guy

all due respect to the fact that you have been on these boards forever but I don't think you remeber what it was like when you were 16. You had a good post count on Freshdirt be for I got there.

When you where that age if you went on a trip you had shaperones.
JLaws Shaperones dropped the ball.(Like JS said) He is 16 (17?) he is out there looking for trouble just like I was at his age. I just didn't get caught (well accually I did but the media is buch harsher than a good ass beating). I rolled many a cars and I still became a good member of the public.

If yamaha knows he has trouble keeping out of trouble then hier a babysitter and keep your investment on the right track.

I think this is an issue everywhere we are giving all this power to under age kids. Give the money to the parents till there of age then when they are concidered adults give them the rains. But Yamaha still needs to watch over there own investment.

500guy wrote:

I agree with that to a point but he isn't 17 he's 21 and this has been going on for some time now. He's been banned...

I agree with that to a point but he isn't 17 he's 21 and this has been going on for some time now.

He's been banned from many a local track , he's been arrested several times, had DUI's been in fights on and off the track.

Sure he could use some guidance I agree but at some point he needs to accept responsibility and knock all the bullshit off.

If I had a team and this was an issue for this long I can think of the change I would be making and hiring a baby sitter wouldn't be it.

You can't keep a job at the local dealership or even as a parts driver with this behavior why is it ok because you can ride a scooter fast ?

rcm406 wrote:

http://live.motocross.com/..._post_show-1205.html "a drunk" "embarrassment to the sport" "idiot" "any chance i get, i will clear his ass out"

http://live.motocross.com/..._post_show-1205.html


"a drunk" "embarrassment to the sport" "idiot" "any chance i get, i will clear his ass out"

mx836 wrote:

Dungey is a sally. He got beat straight up by the person that he is claiming to be an "embarrassment to the sport". Says a lot...

Dungey is a sally. He got beat straight up by the person that he is claiming to be an "embarrassment to the sport". Says a lot about himself if he got beat for the sx championship by a drunk who isn't commited like himself. Don't cry about him in the press conference. Show it on the track. Lawrence mentally owns Dungey right now. Too bad he is on probation. After a crying like that, J-law would put him on the ground again.

txmxer wrote:

my comments are hypothetical and in response to bogdan who seems to be whining that JLaw is on probation and can't defend himself...I say do it...

my comments are hypothetical and in response to bogdan who seems to be whining that JLaw is on probation and can't defend himself...I say do it on the track.

In regards to " thinking of Dungey the whole time", I'm not following you. Weren't those comments at the post race press conference? Or are you saying the JL has been after RD since whenever? If JL is coming after Dungey, then it kind of makes your take on the pass sound pretty bias (you said it was just racing, now you say JL had an issue with Dungey before the PC comments).

Help me out here Mom...clarify for me what you are saying.

35smom wrote:

I should have said comments like that (cause he was saying that in the pits LONG before he said it in public everyone heard him) what...

I should have said comments like that (cause he was saying that in the pits LONG before he said it in public everyone heard him) what im saying is with all the crap that Jay and Dungey went thru during supercross and then their get together the first moto.....I think Dungey is on his mind alot. Thats all. And as for do it on the the track.....that leads back to where this started, the whining crap!!! Jays not looking for trouble on the track he just wants to win (like the rest) but hes not gonna take anyones crap either. Lets just hope for at least a few races where RV, Jay, Dungey Stroupe, Canard, Izzi and a few others are in the then top 10 battling. It would be awesome.

Steve47 wrote:

j-Law's not looking for trouble on the track? Holy shit are you blind of just dumb? Last time he was not on probation, it was Hangtown...

j-Law's not looking for trouble on the track? Holy shit are you blind of just dumb?

Last time he was not on probation, it was Hangtown last year and he was trying to slow down and cut Villopotto off during practice. Wake up women, the reason he kept low profile is because he was on probation.

As soon as the probation ended, he got drunk and caused even more trouble.

The punk is living off his talent alone and it won't cary him much farther if he doesn't wake up and behave like a 21 year old ADULT should. He's not a kid anymore, he's 21!!! On top of that he's a professional athlete!

Jabjr222 wrote:

JLaw is a freaking idiot. How can anybody defend him? Yeah he won the west coast SX but really, how big of a deal is that...

JLaw is a freaking idiot. How can anybody defend him? Yeah he won the west coast SX but really, how big of a deal is that? You take the best riders and split them between the coasts. Did JLaw have to fight with RV for the championship or with TC? Nope. They picked the coast that RV wasn't running. I don't think the REGIONAL supercross counts for shit. How many riders have won a REGIONAL SX title and then start to fade away? More than that have made it on big bikes, that's for sure.

Nope, JLaw is an idiot and I agree with everything RD said (and RD is an initial not a nickname as previously argued in this thread). And this bullshit that Ryan is only saying something now because Jlaw is on probation? Well, JLaw is the one dumb enough to get himself on probation. And if he didn't get himself in trouble with the RV stuff last year, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. But he has displayed a consistent pattern of getting into trouble.

Jlaw won't be around in 5 years when RD is winning 450 championships. And that is really fine with me.

Camp332 wrote:

Jlaw rides a 450 better than a 250.

Trip wrote:

You cannot compare the job of a professional athlete to that of a parts driver. What kind of person sees those two jobs on the same...

You cannot compare the job of a professional athlete to that of a parts driver. What kind of person sees those two jobs on the same scale? The parts driver is easily replaced, how easy is it to replace a guy who can win races?

Actors, rockstars, and athletes are not held to the same accountability as a parts driver.

Yes, the athletes, rockstars, and actors should be held to a higher standard, fact is, they are not. So until that changes, quit with the comparisons between them and you.

35smom wrote:

But he didnt...thats totally off base and speculative. Honestly do you think anybody here would defend that? Be glad it was just what it was and...

But he didnt...thats totally off base and speculative. Honestly do you think anybody here would defend that? Be glad it was just what it was and nothing else.

Jabjr222 wrote:

JLaw is a freaking idiot. How can anybody defend him? Yeah he won the west coast SX but really, how big of a deal is that...

JLaw is a freaking idiot. How can anybody defend him? Yeah he won the west coast SX but really, how big of a deal is that? You take the best riders and split them between the coasts. Did JLaw have to fight with RV for the championship or with TC? Nope. They picked the coast that RV wasn't running. I don't think the REGIONAL supercross counts for shit. How many riders have won a REGIONAL SX title and then start to fade away? More than that have made it on big bikes, that's for sure.

Nope, JLaw is an idiot and I agree with everything RD said (and RD is an initial not a nickname as previously argued in this thread). And this bullshit that Ryan is only saying something now because Jlaw is on probation? Well, JLaw is the one dumb enough to get himself on probation. And if he didn't get himself in trouble with the RV stuff last year, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. But he has displayed a consistent pattern of getting into trouble.

Jlaw won't be around in 5 years when RD is winning 450 championships. And that is really fine with me.

Camp332 wrote:

Jlaw rides a 450 better than a 250.

Jabjr222 wrote:

Then he should ride one... Whats your point? Mine was that JLaw won't be around in 5 years. Not with the way he is going right...

Then he should ride one... Whats your point?

Mine was that JLaw won't be around in 5 years. Not with the way he is going right now. He will have his license revoked if he doesn't watch it. I really cheered for the kid until I saw his horrible showing at Vegas.

35smom wrote:

But he didnt...thats totally off base and speculative. Honestly do you think anybody here would defend that? Be glad it was just what it was and...

But he didnt...thats totally off base and speculative. Honestly do you think anybody here would defend that? Be glad it was just what it was and nothing else.

jtomasik wrote:

Totally off base? Are you blind? He rolled a damn car with a passenger in it because he's acting like an idiot. Isn't that enough for...

Totally off base? Are you blind? He rolled a damn car with a passenger in it because he's acting like an idiot. Isn't that enough for someone to step in and call him on it? You're expecting what? Just smile and say, "it's just kids having fun", until his (or worse yet, someone else's) luck runs out and he takes someone else out? Go after him only after he kills someone?

That guy is acting like a dangerous jerk and nothing more. If you don't think endangering another's life is deserving of criticism and punishment, then maybe you need to do some introspection.

Camp332 wrote:

Jlaw rides a 450 better than a 250.

Jabjr222 wrote:

Then he should ride one... Whats your point? Mine was that JLaw won't be around in 5 years. Not with the way he is going right...

Then he should ride one... Whats your point?

Mine was that JLaw won't be around in 5 years. Not with the way he is going right now. He will have his license revoked if he doesn't watch it. I really cheered for the kid until I saw his horrible showing at Vegas.

35smom wrote:

Okay heres your lesson in being on a team...ready? 1. the team makes your decision where to race not you and what class 2. the team...

Okay heres your lesson in being on a team...ready?

1. the team makes your decision where to race not you and what class

2. the team tells the rider do not get hurt in a race that has no bearing on a title. If you cannot be out front then dont worry, we NEED you for the MX outdoor season...

hows that?

35smom wrote:

But he didnt...thats totally off base and speculative. Honestly do you think anybody here would defend that? Be glad it was just what it was and...

But he didnt...thats totally off base and speculative. Honestly do you think anybody here would defend that? Be glad it was just what it was and nothing else.

jtomasik wrote:

Totally off base? Are you blind? He rolled a damn car with a passenger in it because he's acting like an idiot. Isn't that enough for...

Totally off base? Are you blind? He rolled a damn car with a passenger in it because he's acting like an idiot. Isn't that enough for someone to step in and call him on it? You're expecting what? Just smile and say, "it's just kids having fun", until his (or worse yet, someone else's) luck runs out and he takes someone else out? Go after him only after he kills someone?

That guy is acting like a dangerous jerk and nothing more. If you don't think endangering another's life is deserving of criticism and punishment, then maybe you need to do some introspection.

Jabjr222 wrote:

Then he should ride one... Whats your point? Mine was that JLaw won't be around in 5 years. Not with the way he is going right...

Then he should ride one... Whats your point?

Mine was that JLaw won't be around in 5 years. Not with the way he is going right now. He will have his license revoked if he doesn't watch it. I really cheered for the kid until I saw his horrible showing at Vegas.

35smom wrote:

Okay heres your lesson in being on a team...ready? 1. the team makes your decision where to race not you and what class 2. the team...

Okay heres your lesson in being on a team...ready?

1. the team makes your decision where to race not you and what class

2. the team tells the rider do not get hurt in a race that has no bearing on a title. If you cannot be out front then dont worry, we NEED you for the MX outdoor season...

hows that?

Jabjr222 wrote:

The team wants to win... hows that? If he was faster, they would have him on a 450. Precedent? Hill on the 450. And for Vegas...

The team wants to win... hows that? If he was faster, they would have him on a 450. Precedent? Hill on the 450.

And for Vegas, IT SHOWED A LACK OF HEART...

How's that?