Stroupe @ Yamaha sx track today...

clapped out kawi 12/23/2011 8:45am
12/23/2011 8:45am
BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
here is the issue for a top level pro and the yamaha as it is now. its not a bad bike, they will say that. its...
here is the issue for a top level pro and the yamaha as it is now. its not a bad bike, they will say that. its when you push it to the limits of physics, the bike has a tendency to not do the same thing twice unless you are 100% perfect down to the 1/4 inch of line choice. The chassis is so responsive, that on another bike you make a 2mm change and can feel it, on the Yamaha you make a 1mm change is it really changes it.

So, you spend 3 weeks on a hardpack, baked, So Cal track, you have the bike working perfect. 3 days later you are in a stadium with different dirt, and now you are chasing the bike setup a bit when you push it out to the max. At the test track, it wasnt pushing the front, now it is unless you hit the corner absolutely perfect.

You can ride it all day no worries at a 58 sec lap time, but when you hammer down as hard as you possibly can, hit corners as hard as you can, 100% full tilt what your brain body and right wrist are capable of and get a 55sec lap time, then you push the bike into the zone where it is so reactive it does weird things. Pushes a front for no reason other than you over jumped a touch so the fork is 1 inch lower in the travel when you turn in. Thats the issue as reported by JS, Josh Hill, IT, Hahn... Other bikes you over jump a touch, throw it in the corner and go on, the Yamaha, you dont know what its going to do when you throw it in.

for 99.9999% of the rest of the planet, its a damn good bike! Im a honda guy for 20 years, I liked the 2010 a friend got.
Your exactly right. For 99.99% of people out there the bike is great. ive ridden one and do not see the problem the pros talk of, because they are on another planet compared to us mortals. They push the bike to its limits to where that issue becomes a problem. Everyone else are just blowing smoke out the ass and wanna say they there's a problem with the bike when they have no idea, more than likely they just have a shitty setup or just can't ride period.
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BornA'Lil2Slow wrote:
here is the issue for a top level pro and the yamaha as it is now. its not a bad bike, they will say that. its...
here is the issue for a top level pro and the yamaha as it is now. its not a bad bike, they will say that. its when you push it to the limits of physics, the bike has a tendency to not do the same thing twice unless you are 100% perfect down to the 1/4 inch of line choice. The chassis is so responsive, that on another bike you make a 2mm change and can feel it, on the Yamaha you make a 1mm change is it really changes it.

So, you spend 3 weeks on a hardpack, baked, So Cal track, you have the bike working perfect. 3 days later you are in a stadium with different dirt, and now you are chasing the bike setup a bit when you push it out to the max. At the test track, it wasnt pushing the front, now it is unless you hit the corner absolutely perfect.

You can ride it all day no worries at a 58 sec lap time, but when you hammer down as hard as you possibly can, hit corners as hard as you can, 100% full tilt what your brain body and right wrist are capable of and get a 55sec lap time, then you push the bike into the zone where it is so reactive it does weird things. Pushes a front for no reason other than you over jumped a touch so the fork is 1 inch lower in the travel when you turn in. Thats the issue as reported by JS, Josh Hill, IT, Hahn... Other bikes you over jump a touch, throw it in the corner and go on, the Yamaha, you dont know what its going to do when you throw it in.

for 99.9999% of the rest of the planet, its a damn good bike! Im a honda guy for 20 years, I liked the 2010 a friend got.
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Your exactly right. For 99.99% of people out there the bike is great. ive ridden one and do not see the problem the pros talk of...
Your exactly right. For 99.99% of people out there the bike is great. ive ridden one and do not see the problem the pros talk of, because they are on another planet compared to us mortals. They push the bike to its limits to where that issue becomes a problem. Everyone else are just blowing smoke out the ass and wanna say they there's a problem with the bike when they have no idea, more than likely they just have a shitty setup or just can't ride period.
I will agree a BornA'Lil2Slow I rode the new Yamaha for a year. I tell everybody that you can hit the same line 6 laps in a row and the bike will do 6 different things every lap. The bike is unpredictable to say the least the harder you push it. I was getting Yamaha's free. The thing started spitting me off and I was getting injured. I had ENZO do everything on it also and TMR do the Motor. I gave the bike back in June and went out and BOUGHT" a NEW 2012 KAW 450 the last week of June. Dont regret it at all
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chrisbuehler 12/23/2011 7:26pm
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Anyone read the new RacerX article on James/JGR? Holy excuses Batman!! Just so everyone knows James was only riding at 70% at Daytona when that POS Yamaha spit him off. Whatever happened to just owning up to riding over your head?
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Taylor156 12/23/2011 7:37pm
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I remember when he passed JS7 in the quali it was rad got me on my feet at anaheim good luck to him, wish the best for bobby and chad at valli/star/rockstar/answer etc.etc. bike the best, good luck the top 4 will be gone reality it just won't happen but nice post, didn't deliver no picks or video big bummer.

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ocscottie 12/23/2011 7:37pm
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Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands Blink

Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or get learned.

*btw: replied to your email
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MCfan4life 12/23/2011 7:59pm
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ocscottie wrote:
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands :blink: Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or [i]get[/i] learned. *btw: replied...
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands Blink

Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or get learned.

*btw: replied to your email
DD hasn't signed up under another name has he? Laughing
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ocscottie 12/23/2011 8:18pm
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Not that i know of Col Cool
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TJ 755 12/23/2011 8:53pm
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JIM256 wrote:
...a lucky few of us witnessed Stroupe go 4-5 through a tricky rhythm section today that would rival bubba's latest quad video. Thanks Stroupie for making...
...a lucky few of us witnessed Stroupe go 4-5 through a tricky rhythm section today that would rival bubba's latest quad video. Thanks Stroupie for making our day. Sorry no pics or video...
kong0036 wrote:
i remember that 1st year at Glen Helen National on his new PC 51 ride he was unbelievable that day .This kid has so much talent...
i remember that 1st year at Glen Helen National on his new PC 51 ride he was unbelievable that day .This kid has so much talent when it all clicks like maybe this year he will rattle a few cages i can tell you that.
You do know about the pepsi that day, right?
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JJO741 12/23/2011 10:34pm
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ocscottie wrote:
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands :blink: Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or [i]get[/i] learned. *btw: replied...
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands Blink

Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or get learned.

*btw: replied to your email
Whom?
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easton 12/24/2011 12:54am
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JIM256 wrote:
...a lucky few of us witnessed Stroupe go 4-5 through a tricky rhythm section today that would rival bubba's latest quad video. Thanks Stroupie for making...
...a lucky few of us witnessed Stroupe go 4-5 through a tricky rhythm section today that would rival bubba's latest quad video. Thanks Stroupie for making our day. Sorry no pics or video...
easton wrote:
Lucky to see him jump half the gap James did. The distance was not even close. Post your video or STFU, i was there and he...
Lucky to see him jump half the gap James did. The distance was not even close. Post your video or STFU, i was there and he didn't gap that much.
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You have no idea wtf you are talking about. If jim256 says it's so, it's so. Have a little respect.
Terry go fishing and let the OLDMAN talk.............................................
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jeffro503 12/24/2011 12:55am
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ocscottie wrote:
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands :blink: Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or [i]get[/i] learned. *btw: replied...
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands Blink

Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or get learned.

*btw: replied to your email
JJO741 wrote:
Whom?
JJO.....Scottie is referring to that poster named Easton. Go back to the first page and read what he wrote. Then scroll down a few more replies and look what I wrote hehe. Friggin' douche' bags will spit out anything if they think people will listen.
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easton 12/24/2011 1:06am
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ocscottie wrote:
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands :blink: Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or [i]get[/i] learned. *btw: replied...
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands Blink

Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or get learned.

*btw: replied to your email
JJO741 wrote:
Whom?
jeffro503 wrote:
JJO.....Scottie is referring to that poster named Easton. Go back to the first page and read what he wrote. Then scroll down a few more replies...
JJO.....Scottie is referring to that poster named Easton. Go back to the first page and read what he wrote. Then scroll down a few more replies and look what I wrote hehe. Friggin' douche' bags will spit out anything if they think people will listen.
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12/24/2011 5:57am Edited Date/Time 12/24/2011 5:58am
JIM256 wrote:
...a lucky few of us witnessed Stroupe go 4-5 through a tricky rhythm section today that would rival bubba's latest quad video. Thanks Stroupie for making...
...a lucky few of us witnessed Stroupe go 4-5 through a tricky rhythm section today that would rival bubba's latest quad video. Thanks Stroupie for making our day. Sorry no pics or video...
Yeah, WTF, in this day and age and no video?!!Angry Wink

I hope that he is past his issues and has a good season. Has he moved back to NC yet? That would be a smart move for the kid IMO.


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mindbend1979 12/24/2011 9:11am
12/24/2011 9:11am
kong0036 wrote:
i remember that 1st year at Glen Helen National on his new PC 51 ride he was unbelievable that day .This kid has so much talent...
i remember that 1st year at Glen Helen National on his new PC 51 ride he was unbelievable that day .This kid has so much talent when it all clicks like maybe this year he will rattle a few cages i can tell you that.
Agree with you 100%!
Dirt_Dawg 12/24/2011 11:58am
12/24/2011 11:58am
ocscottie wrote:
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands :blink: Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or [i]get[/i] learned. *btw: replied...
Terry, it looks like we may have another DD on our hands Blink

Disrespectful punkass little shits, they will either learn, or get learned.

*btw: replied to your email
MCfan4life wrote:
DD hasn't signed up under another name has he? Laughing
How dare you? DD will never stoop that lowWink
Charles Bronson 12/24/2011 12:27pm
12/24/2011 12:27pm
Charles Bronson wrote:
when the 97 CR came out, mcgrath was bitching, and no one else was. he responded by saying "they just arent on my level". i think...
when the 97 CR came out, mcgrath was bitching, and no one else was. he responded by saying "they just arent on my level".

i think that applies with the Yamaha.
Xsenter wrote:
I remember riding my friends 1997 cr250 back in the day and that bike was horrible. Every decent rider could feel how bad it was. To...
I remember riding my friends 1997 cr250 back in the day and that bike was horrible.

Every decent rider could feel how bad it was.

To compare the -10/-12Yamaha 450 with that bike is stupid
you completely missed the point. i was not comparing the bikes, i was comparing the rider caliber and rider reaction, which is what bornalil2slow was talking about as well.
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JIM256 12/24/2011 3:55pm
12/24/2011 3:55pm Edited Date/Time 12/24/2011 6:36pm
easton -This "old man" would set you straight but it looks like terry k and jeffrro 503 already did. Thanks guys...

Kong0036 - I remember that day very well @ GH. He really surprised everyone and i thought he was well on his way to be a c'ship contender. Here's hoping to a new and improved Stroupe to be a contender in next years sx series.

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