so whats next for Adam Cianciarulo?

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10/20/2011 5:06pm
JustMX wrote:
A couple of observations. Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age? He was making...
A couple of observations.

Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age?

He was making plans to head to Europe when AC turned 16.

I would say that with the rule being changed back to 16 we will see him make his pro debute soon after his 16th b-day.

I don't really understand why all the hype about him. He is no RC. He is no JS. Heck, he isn't even MA.

Don't get me wrong. He has skills, and is well spoken. However, the truth is that Cooper Webb and Jordon Smith both beat him in heads up racing at LL's this year.

I think those 3 will tighten up as they make the transition to big bikes, and I am going to predict that Smith will actually do the best of the 3.
No, no they did not beat him heads up this year nor did they beat him heads up last year, just saying.
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10/20/2011 5:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/20/2011 5:10pm
JustMX wrote:
A couple of observations. Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age? He was making...
A couple of observations.

Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age?

He was making plans to head to Europe when AC turned 16.

I would say that with the rule being changed back to 16 we will see him make his pro debute soon after his 16th b-day.

I don't really understand why all the hype about him. He is no RC. He is no JS. Heck, he isn't even MA.

Don't get me wrong. He has skills, and is well spoken. However, the truth is that Cooper Webb and Jordon Smith both beat him in heads up racing at LL's this year.

I think those 3 will tighten up as they make the transition to big bikes, and I am going to predict that Smith will actually do the best of the 3.
bish153 wrote:
No, no they did not beat him heads up this year nor did they beat him heads up last year, just saying.
He already has more amateur titles at loretta lynns than RC and if his next year or two goes right more than alessi and Stewart, just sayin Wink
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10/20/2011 5:38pm
JustMX wrote:
A couple of observations. Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age? He was making...
A couple of observations.

Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age?

He was making plans to head to Europe when AC turned 16.

I would say that with the rule being changed back to 16 we will see him make his pro debute soon after his 16th b-day.

I don't really understand why all the hype about him. He is no RC. He is no JS. Heck, he isn't even MA.

Don't get me wrong. He has skills, and is well spoken. However, the truth is that Cooper Webb and Jordon Smith both beat him in heads up racing at LL's this year.

I think those 3 will tighten up as they make the transition to big bikes, and I am going to predict that Smith will actually do the best of the 3.
I think the hype is all that because he is a like RC, JS and MA. He has produced comparable results as those three, all while racing above his age group. The fact you are even mentioning Cooper, who is two years older then him, should tell you that. RC, JS and MA all raced in their respected age groups their entire amateur careers.

Now I would be foolish to say Cooper and Jordan are not great riders, they are! I don't think anybody in their right mind would down play the talent Cooper has shown his entire amateur career or the talent we are just now (past year) starting to see from Jordan. But they have not shown they are on AC's level yet. Sure, you say they beat AC straight up at LL's this year, and they did! It was only in one of six motos, and Adam was leading that moto and fell. I agree, they did not fall and they finished 1 and 2.

As for who will win in the future, my money is things will stay the same. I have not seen Jordan on a big bike yet, but I have seen the other two. Cooper will need to find a little something extra if he does not want to repeat the past.
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He talks about his future plans in THIS interview on RX.

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B class? A class? schoolboy? 125s? 250s? 450s?
he is still a small kid.
will we see another straight from the B class prodigy?
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Seeing as he was 6 seconds a lap off of top Pros on 450s.....on a SX syle track.......on a Supermini? I really hope he doesn't go...
Seeing as he was 6 seconds a lap off of top Pros on 450s.....on a SX syle track.......on a Supermini? I really hope he doesn't go and ride the B class.

Prodigy is the case. Name the others who had a deal like this in place on their 15th birthday. Wait, did Ricky or RV even have a deal with Pro CIrcuit like this while still racing Superminis?
No they didnt, but thats partly bc this companys were not putting this much time/efforts/resources/money into the amateurs. This is new in the last 5 years or so..
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10/20/2011 7:37pm
I just want to see him rippin a PC KX125!
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Ciancarulico did good at the monster cup, especially for being such a high number. butterballs tells me he will be on 125 two stroke techs because...
Ciancarulico did good at the monster cup, especially for being such a high number.

butterballs tells me he will be on 125 two stroke techs because he isn't quite good enough for the faster heavy four strokes. maybe he got sponcered though
He isnt good enough??? Blink Pinch Pinch Dry Dude is super fast and talented. I thought sarcasm was Kongols signature... I hope that was sarcasm, this kid blows my mind. Seeing him on a PC 125 would be awesome "fingers crossed"
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Hey Kyle, the "he has a high # he must suck" is a long running joke that goes back a few years here at Vital, check out the Pastrana thread in the HOF, it should be required reading for all members, it is priceless!
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HaHa ok , headed there to check it out now. I find my self stepping on my own tongue here at Vital being the Noob but im slowly catching on. Thanks Scottie

Starting to take Guyb's advice and read my own post before clicking that nifty little red Submit button Smile
10/20/2011 8:28pm
JustMX wrote:
A couple of observations. Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age? He was making...
A couple of observations.

Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age?

He was making plans to head to Europe when AC turned 16.

I would say that with the rule being changed back to 16 we will see him make his pro debute soon after his 16th b-day.

I don't really understand why all the hype about him. He is no RC. He is no JS. Heck, he isn't even MA.

Don't get me wrong. He has skills, and is well spoken. However, the truth is that Cooper Webb and Jordon Smith both beat him in heads up racing at LL's this year.

I think those 3 will tighten up as they make the transition to big bikes, and I am going to predict that Smith will actually do the best of the 3.
I think the hype is all that because he is a like RC, JS and MA. He has produced comparable results as those three, all while...
I think the hype is all that because he is a like RC, JS and MA. He has produced comparable results as those three, all while racing above his age group. The fact you are even mentioning Cooper, who is two years older then him, should tell you that. RC, JS and MA all raced in their respected age groups their entire amateur careers.

Now I would be foolish to say Cooper and Jordan are not great riders, they are! I don't think anybody in their right mind would down play the talent Cooper has shown his entire amateur career or the talent we are just now (past year) starting to see from Jordan. But they have not shown they are on AC's level yet. Sure, you say they beat AC straight up at LL's this year, and they did! It was only in one of six motos, and Adam was leading that moto and fell. I agree, they did not fall and they finished 1 and 2.

As for who will win in the future, my money is things will stay the same. I have not seen Jordan on a big bike yet, but I have seen the other two. Cooper will need to find a little something extra if he does not want to repeat the past.
cooper is 8 months older, not two years
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Where are they getting the 125's to build anyway?
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Scottie I literally just spit water all over my laptop. Water came out of my nose man, like 2 comments in and 10-15 comments later i was tearing up. That is by FAR the best Thread i have read yet here at Vital. I love it, gonna save that as a favorite and visit it on days im feeling down. How could anyone not laugh at that...

If anyone hasnt checked out the Travis Pastrana HOF Thread. The link is 4 posts up from this one and is a MUST read.

Good shit Scottie
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This isn't the same amateur class RC & JS dominated, hell of a lot deeper today.

The AC detractors keep comparing him to guys he really isn't expected to beat, there's a big difference from 14 to 15 or 16, look what happened to Roczen when he was two years younger than Barcia at LL's.

None of those guys including Roczen has ever beaten Adam as badly as Roczen got it when he moved up at LL's, but Ken also wasn't expected to beat a two years older Barcia.

Those other kids are the one's with the problem, if you're a year or two older and already on the 250 it doesn't bode well that a super mini rider has all you can handle.

It doesn't matter until you can do it on the big bike and I suppose the other guys are ahead of him but most of the time, even Roczen didn't look two years faster than him as an amateur. I think Cooper's about a year older, I've seen Adam give Roczen that same type of a race while giving up two years age advantage.
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cooper is 8 months older, not two years
Adam turned 15 today, coop turns 16 in 21 days
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10/20/2011 11:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/20/2011 11:09pm
JustMX wrote:
A couple of observations. Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age? He was making...
A couple of observations.

Wasn't it AC's dad that was pitching a fit when the AMA passed a rule raising the minimum age?

He was making plans to head to Europe when AC turned 16.

I would say that with the rule being changed back to 16 we will see him make his pro debute soon after his 16th b-day.

I don't really understand why all the hype about him. He is no RC. He is no JS. Heck, he isn't even MA.

Don't get me wrong. He has skills, and is well spoken. However, the truth is that Cooper Webb and Jordon Smith both beat him in heads up racing at LL's this year.

I think those 3 will tighten up as they make the transition to big bikes, and I am going to predict that Smith will actually do the best of the 3.
AC is the next Ricky, just watch. Obviously win/championships number wise it'll be hard, but dominance wise. He won't flounder around in the 4th-8th area. He'll win, a lot.
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Alright I didn't read any of this stuff.

However, I think the next step for AC is to grow.

(Take that genetics.)
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Alright I didn't read any of this stuff.

However, I think the next step for AC is to grow.

(Take that genetics.)
and you are spot on! I think ti was Bones at PC that said he needs to weight 125lbs before he can ride the big bike. Sure hope he has a grow spurt coming in the very near future!
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ddavis spoke so now this thread can end. He is all-knowing
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cooper is 8 months older, not two years
cpj36 wrote:
Adam turned 15 today, coop turns 16 in 21 days
big difference than two years
My bad, one year older then. My point is Adam could have been racing 12-14 85 at LL's, but he chose to race the older kids in the supermini class, same thing on his 65.
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I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro. That would make him 17 for his first supercross.
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he is exactly blake baggets size. 4'11'' 91lbs with full gear.
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toddh wrote:
I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro...
I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro. That would make him 17 for his first supercross.
The guy in my avatar was racing 250s at 17, and winning. Bayle, Stanton, Matasevich were all in his roost.

oh well, i guess not everyone can be Damon F&%@ing Bradshaw.
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toddh wrote:
I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro...
I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro. That would make him 17 for his first supercross.
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The guy in my avatar was racing 250s at 17, and winning. Bayle, Stanton, Matasevich were all in his roost. oh well, i guess not everyone...
The guy in my avatar was racing 250s at 17, and winning. Bayle, Stanton, Matasevich were all in his roost.

oh well, i guess not everyone can be Damon F&%@ing Bradshaw.
I meant that he would turn pro at 17 not 16. Two more years amateur.
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toddh wrote:
I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro...
I think Adam will be on big bikes two years before turning pro. No way Mitch lets him run schoolboy for 1 year then go pro. That would make him 17 for his first supercross.
Premixed wrote:
The guy in my avatar was racing 250s at 17, and winning. Bayle, Stanton, Matasevich were all in his roost. oh well, i guess not everyone...
The guy in my avatar was racing 250s at 17, and winning. Bayle, Stanton, Matasevich were all in his roost.

oh well, i guess not everyone can be Damon F&%@ing Bradshaw.
um,

How many national pro national titles did the beast win?
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cooper is 8 months older, not two years
cpj36 wrote:
Adam turned 15 today, coop turns 16 in 21 days
big difference than two years
A year is still a huge difference, that's why people plan when they have kids around their "AMA birthday" to have that kind of an age advantage in each class.
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10/21/2011 7:55am Edited Date/Time 10/21/2011 7:56am
double up...uhhh
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Rudeboy119 wrote:
Where are they getting the 125's to build anyway?
Kawasaki has a stock of them for team green to use, they lend them to riders and take them back every year and freshen them up.

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