1997 AMA 125 Outdoor Motocross National from Gainesville FL RC's 1st National win is up.

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 4:46am
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CorndogRacing 10/7/2011 9:05pm
10/7/2011 9:05pm
no scrubs... and DUST!! Crazy how much has changed, man Kdub was even smooth on the one two fizzle!!
CorndogRacing 10/7/2011 9:07pm
10/7/2011 9:07pm
at 5:00 Reynard definatly scrubbed that jump...in 1997
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Premixed 10/8/2011 3:01am
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when are people going to figure out that these little instances of useless body english (scrubs) are actually counter-intuitive, and only popular because the person who does them happens to be fast? what if kyle chisolm was the only guy "scrubbing"? would it be as popular?

the rossi leg wave in moto gp. would it be as popular is randy de puniet was the one who started leg waving?

ponder.
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uk125250 10/8/2011 3:39am
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CorndogRacing wrote:
at 5:00 Reynard definatly scrubbed that jump...in 1997
Yep, was going to post about that too.

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Premixed 10/8/2011 3:48am
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look how fast reynard is in the corners. we joke about not letting off the gas on a 125, but i honestly dont think he even lets off.
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DC41 10/8/2011 4:44am
10/8/2011 4:44am
Man, Reynard and Windham are so smoooth!

Thanks for al those old skool video's on youtube dude, awesome to watch!
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Shawn142 10/8/2011 5:18am
10/8/2011 5:18am Edited Date/Time 10/8/2011 5:19am
Premixed wrote:
when are people going to figure out that these little instances of useless body english (scrubs) are actually counter-intuitive, and only popular because the person who...
when are people going to figure out that these little instances of useless body english (scrubs) are actually counter-intuitive, and only popular because the person who does them happens to be fast? what if kyle chisolm was the only guy "scrubbing"? would it be as popular?

the rossi leg wave in moto gp. would it be as popular is randy de puniet was the one who started leg waving?

ponder.
Does this seem counter intuitive?



Scrubbing when done correctly is VERY effective. I can think of a half dozen examples off the top of my head where Stewart scrubbed past guys to take the lead. Earlier in the SX season Canard used that same tactic to get back past Reed on the final lap of a main to win. It's the bitter old man in you thinking that it's just all for flash.

One big thing I take away from watching these old videos is how soft even the best bikes were. Everyone is wallowing and plunging down into the stroke, suspension just wasn't that good.
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ODB 10/8/2011 6:03am
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ahhh............its called carrying corner speed on that pass,he was just going quiker and would have passed him regardless
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JW381 10/8/2011 6:45am
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Yeah without tainting this amazing video of an amazing milestone in MX history with scrubbing arguments too much, scrubbing is a lot of wasted energy, and just makes the kids in the C class look even more like they're having a seizure. Nothing cracks me up more than seeing some 15 year old scrawny kid at the track who's obviously going pro (sarcasm) come up to some table top and move his butt, shoulders, elbows and head in 4 different directions to get it "real low"
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Shawn142 10/8/2011 10:01am
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ODB wrote:
ahhh............its called carrying corner speed on that pass,he was just going quiker and would have passed him regardless
I can come up with about 10 more videos like that if you like. Carrying more speed into a jump doesn't do you any good unless you can do something with it. Without the scrub Canard just flat lands 10 feet past the down ramp and doesn't pass anything.
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CamP 10/8/2011 10:13am
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Shawn142 wrote:
Does this seem counter intuitive? [embed] https://youtu.be/ZcgF7sg1bWE [/embed] Scrubbing when done correctly is VERY effective. I can think of a half dozen examples off the top...
Does this seem counter intuitive?



Scrubbing when done correctly is VERY effective. I can think of a half dozen examples off the top of my head where Stewart scrubbed past guys to take the lead. Earlier in the SX season Canard used that same tactic to get back past Reed on the final lap of a main to win. It's the bitter old man in you thinking that it's just all for flash.

One big thing I take away from watching these old videos is how soft even the best bikes were. Everyone is wallowing and plunging down into the stroke, suspension just wasn't that good.
I've also noticed how soft the suspension is in these old videos. It's amazing how fast these guys went on bikes that were bottoming out on everything.
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Shawn142 10/8/2011 10:14am
10/8/2011 10:14am
Skip to 6:45. Slow motion of the last lap repass at Jacksonville. Canard was almost 2 bike-lengths back going into the face. Again I'm not saying it's overused and in some cases pointless, but there's a reason and place for the scrub and it's not just flash.

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1-forty-8 10/27/2011 6:57am
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1 down.. 150 to go lol Love it, thanks man!

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