1987 Honda CR250 Project

mosslander
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Wow what a differens it was to ride with the upper clamp uppsidedown and it put the bars upp and forward .
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Keep us updated on the resto project. That 87 is looking fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I followed Vino's lead and got a standard height seat foam and cover from Ceet Racing. The foam feels awesome and the cover is pretty good. I had to make stencils for the "CR" and "Honda" logos.

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I also finished the pipe. I got a new 87 Pro Circuit pipe but it was the platinum version. I removed the nickel plating and the tag. Then to make it look works, I went over the welds with a torch to build up carbon and discolor it like it was just freshly welded.

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The bike is pretty much done now. I just need to finish the forks. The ones you see above are the forks that came on the bike and are not the originals. I bought some 87 CR500 forks that I am media blasting and chromic acid anodizing the lowers on myself. It should look like the magnesium works forks Team Honda used.

This will be my first anodizing exercise so if you guys don't hear from me for awhile..........just wait longer!
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DJ awesome work mate.

I know it must be hard finding time to work on it these days. How's the family?

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reded
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Hopefully you've got a new set of grips laying around for that beauty?!?!
nine1seven
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10/5/2011 9:59pm
MCfan4life wrote:
DJ awesome work mate.

I know it must be hard finding time to work on it these days. How's the family?
Thanks man, I don't get to go to the shop as much. It's cooler these days in TX so I'm tinkering in the garage at my house more. That allows me to stay close to help with my new twin boys! Everybody is doing awesome...Thanks for asking! Glad your back from your Holiday so we can see some updates on your CR!

red: I'm going with some newer style honda grips. Just waiting on the throttle side. I'm going to use a newer CR front brake master cylinder and clutch levers as well. They really had some weird looong levers and they pointed them way down in the 80's. I forgot about that until I got this bike. It's those little things that make today's bikes so good I think.
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very good job
amazing bike...

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Sounds like you've gotta plan, it truly is a beautiful bike, good work bro. I wanted an '87 SO bad back then but it wasn't meant to be, ended up with the '88 instead.
mosslander
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nine1seven wrote:
I followed Vino's lead and got a standard height seat foam and cover from Ceet Racing. The foam feels awesome and the cover is pretty good...
I followed Vino's lead and got a standard height seat foam and cover from Ceet Racing. The foam feels awesome and the cover is pretty good. I had to make stencils for the "CR" and "Honda" logos.

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I also finished the pipe. I got a new 87 Pro Circuit pipe but it was the platinum version. I removed the nickel plating and the tag. Then to make it look works, I went over the welds with a torch to build up carbon and discolor it like it was just freshly welded.

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The bike is pretty much done now. I just need to finish the forks. The ones you see above are the forks that came on the bike and are not the originals. I bought some 87 CR500 forks that I am media blasting and chromic acid anodizing the lowers on myself. It should look like the magnesium works forks Team Honda used.

This will be my first anodizing exercise so if you guys don't hear from me for awhile..........just wait longer!
I hope you have notised that the letters is different angeled at right versus left side on the OEM seatcover ,
by the way what a wonderfoul job you have done there 917.
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10/8/2011 10:58pm
its going to be tough to keep that pipe from rusting.
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10/31/2011 1:46am Edited Date/Time 10/31/2011 1:54am
Any updates DJ?

Is James' bike identical to yours?
nine1seven
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11/5/2011 8:13pm
MCfan4life wrote:
Any updates DJ?

Is James' bike identical to yours?
Well, not quite. I ended up trading James my project which I'm pretty close to done with now. I painted, spent and restored myself into another corner where I really didn't want to ride this bike and mess it up.

Here it is after I finished the anodizing the forks and applying stickers. It's a nod to Mickey Dymond who I always thought was badass. He rode the #5 CR250 indoors in 87 then switched to the 125 to win the nationals that year for the second time in a row. Between that and his rocking out with Motley Crue I think he is worthy. I still need to put some fork guards on, fill it with oil and coolant, and then jet it; but other than that it's done.

I'm really happy with how it turned out. It's pretty much a new bike.

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As I was doing this project I really got the itch to ride it, I'm sure you guys can relate. Since Barkhard here had one that was unrestored, all original and in great shape, I traded him for it, a CR500 and some parts. I also agreed to help with a RM250 he has and wants to rebuild, which is going to be a fun project. That dude has so much cool no-shit factory works stuff it's ridiculous. I don't know where he gets it all but it will be fun to work with it. I'll share some pics as I get into it.

For this next 87 CR250, though, I'll save the cosmetic stuff for when I'm done riding it and just focus on making it a solid bike for the EVO series we have down here. It's going to work out awesome as I have tons of parts left over.
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The bike looks stellar, pat yourself on the back!
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Outstanding work again DJ!!! That is a beauty Cool

I can totally understand how you would not want to ride it. I couldn't bring myself to ride it either.

Cool that you did a Dymond replica. I had the pleasure of meeting Micky several years ago in Sydney and we hung out for a while, talking about the 80's over a few drinks. Micky is a really, really cool guy. Very down to earth and freindly. People would be totally surprised if they ever got the chance to meet the guy and talk with him.

Late model (04-) clutch perch Shocked
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Hey thanks guys! That's pretty cool you met the guy Col. I listened to his podcast and, unexpectedly, he seemed pretty humble.

Yeah, I used some newer stuff like that clutch perch/lever and front master cylinder. They just seem so much better than the original stuff. It's not HRC but it's definitely better than the awkwardly weird long levers pointed way down. Also, I know that they didn't use a 19" rear wheel until the following year but I just think it looks so much better and is way lighter than 18". James is considering mounting a set of Upside Down Forks to make it a better replica, and knowing that guy, he will end up doing it. I tried using 93 forks and clamps but you really would need to have a custom set made like you did on your 96.

By the way Col, if this thing had fallen off the stand, I don't think I would have snapped pics of the carnage like you did. I was impressed you thought of us in that time of crisis. It would have been a string of expletives straight away!!!

Anyway, thanks again y'all for checking it out and for the compliments.
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Micky is unbelievably humble DJ.

"For this next 87 CR250, though, I'll save the cosmetic stuff for when I'm done riding it and just focus on making it a solid bike for the EVO series we have down here."
Ha! I laughed when I read this. I have had this plan in my head a few times. And during the rebuild you find something needs replacing. Then you replace something else so the first part doesn't look out of place. Then another part, then another, and another. And before you know it you have a brand new bike you don't want to ride Laughing

I know what you mean about weird levers. A few years back I rode my mates CRF450 and he still liked to run his RJ bend Renthals. Man that thing was awkward to ride. Felt like the bars were pointing towards the ground.

Did you guys in the U.S get the 19" rear on the CR's in 89? I know all the other manufacturers went 19" in 1989 but in Australia and Europe we didn't get the 19" on the CR's until 1995!

By the way those forks came up a treat. Do you have any close up shots of them?
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The 19's weren't available in the States until '95 as well.
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You bike looks great.
Though you need some Factory style reservoir, fork and disc guards and a Factory style front brake hose to complete it!
Also lose the "wolf" sticker on the rear mudguard! lol
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11/9/2011 8:42pm Edited Date/Time 11/9/2011 8:49pm
>Though you need some Factory style reservoir, fork and disc guards

We have those, they just aren't mounted yet. Will be, soon.

DJ, I keep forgetting, we need to use rounded, Allen-head bolts on the lower subframe mounts -- this is what the factory team was doing (smoother junction, less boot rubbing). I have an MXA from '87 that recommends this.
11/17/2011 3:30pm
That looks awesome! good work!
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>Though you need some Factory style reservoir, fork and disc guards We have those, they just aren't mounted yet. Will be, soon. DJ, I keep forgetting...
>Though you need some Factory style reservoir, fork and disc guards

We have those, they just aren't mounted yet. Will be, soon.

DJ, I keep forgetting, we need to use rounded, Allen-head bolts on the lower subframe mounts -- this is what the factory team was doing (smoother junction, less boot rubbing). I have an MXA from '87 that recommends this.
Did'nt they use rounded Allen-head bolts for the seat also
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jtracing6 wrote:
You bike looks great. Though you need some Factory style reservoir, fork and disc guards and a Factory style front brake hose to complete it! Also...
You bike looks great.
Though you need some Factory style reservoir, fork and disc guards and a Factory style front brake hose to complete it!
Also lose the "wolf" sticker on the rear mudguard! lol
Guards installed. Can't get rid of the sticker...its TLD's Dymond helmet artwork!

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12/5/2011 11:56am
Bike looks very very nice. I haven't followed this thread too closely, but are we going to be riding/racing this beauty?
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Looooking goood!
Is this a rider or garage queen?
Though that reservoir guard is the newer style, it drops down slightly where the hose exits. Also you need some SHOWA fork leg stickers and an old nylon RENTHAL bar pad.
Love the numbers are they pre-printed? I can't see the TLD sticker.Remember if you're not going to use it, drain the coolant.
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Thanks guys! I traded this one to a buddy of mine here in Houston (Barkhard on here). He collects bikes and I don't think he is going to ride it, but rather put it up as part of his collection. From what I gather about your bikes Newmann, you and barkhard have pretty comparable collections!

I got an awesome all original, unrestored 87 along with a CR500 and some parts which I've sold. I've pretty much got this next 87 ready to go. No painted frame, new plastic or other cosmetic stuff. This one I'm riding in the EVO series. I just got the radiators cleared out, silencer packed, bearings greased, tires mounted, etc. I'll post some pics of it at some point.

Part of the deal with barkhard is to help him with a 04 RM250 he wants fixed up. It will be fun to build this RM as he really goes all out with trick parts and stuff.

JT: Those numbers are the old school Factory Effex stick-on style numbers on repainted backgrounds. Barkhard had those guards already, otherwise I'd be hitting you up for a set, which I may have to do anyway for this next one. That sticker is on the rear fender. It's one that Troy Lee made up for a helmet kit I think.
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Great job on the 87, Viking!

Hey, I'm sure we can heat up and modify the bend in the reservoir guard with that super-duty heat gun I've got at the shop.

I've also got some SHOWA stickers for the guards, too-- should be with all the other stuff in boxes for the RM250 project.

Have a great rest of the week and talk with you Friday evening! I also have a DeBruzer crossbar pad we can use instead of the Renthal one.
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12/8/2011 9:09am
How did you strip the plating off that pipe?

I've got one I'd like to do that to. For some of the bikes you can only get a Platinum pipe and I want the bare works look!

Great job!
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12/9/2011 11:57am Edited Date/Time 12/9/2011 11:57am
>How did you strip the plating off that pipe?

It has to be done I believe electro-chemically.

Hey DJ, I've got a set of the SHOWA guard stickers and found a black DeBruzer bar pad like the team bikes used. Almost finished!
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Here it is finished.
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