Suzuki's factory withdrawal?

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Since Suzuki is pulling the plug on their factory race efforts what's the word on their amateur support program? Are they still going to provide bikes and support to the up-and-comers? What about the amateur contigency program? I'm just wondering how the withdraw at the highest level is going to trickle down. We haven't heard much about how the lower program is going to be effected.
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newmann 9/23/2011 7:03am
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They chopped the amateur program a few years ago.
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They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still continue that support.
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JCRF217 9/23/2011 7:19am
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Did I miss the pr about this? I never heard for sure that they were done.
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I knew they were giving support to the rockstar suzuki team which did alot for some of their best amateur riders. I don't think they were getting factory-type equipment but there still had to be incentives for running suzukis.

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neysbo wrote:
They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still...
They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still continue that support.
nick neys?
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neysbo wrote:
They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still...
They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still continue that support.
mxtech1 wrote:
nick neys?
ha, his dad-- you know Nick I assume- pretty much everyone does.

Are you going to the races at Galesburg Sunday ?
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Team Ideal wrote:
http://www.mxptv.com/2011/09/midwest-tour-sunset-ridge-proam-highlights…

Jeremy still thanks extreme rockstar in this interview done at Sunset last weekend. but who knows what's about to happen.
we talked to him a bit up there at Walnut and he seemed up in the air with what his plans were for next year. with the economy still in the shitter things will continue to demise.

how is D doing

Brady just started to ride last week some, not ready for any races as he was out 3 months
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gotwings 9/23/2011 8:20am
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I heard they withdrew unexpectedly because their market share got soft. But they said that almost never happens...
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newmann wrote:
They chopped the amateur program a few years ago.
Suzuki support is still at the races just like Team Green, Honda & Yamaha sent the Am support out for their large dealers to run a few years ago. Unless Suzuki follow suite the Am program will keep going.

My guess is with the expense of the Suzuki Pro team moving out of house to Yoshimira the amateur program will get a financial boost.
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neysbo wrote:
They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still...
They still were supporting many amateurs through the Rockstar Suzuki program so will be interesting to see what the trickle down affect is. Hopefully they still continue that support.
mxtech1 wrote:
nick neys?
neysbo wrote:
ha, his dad-- you know Nick I assume- pretty much everyone does.

Are you going to the races at Galesburg Sunday ?
yep. I have spoke to you several times before my name is craig morris
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neysbo wrote:
we talked to him a bit up there at Walnut and he seemed up in the air with what his plans were for next year. with...
we talked to him a bit up there at Walnut and he seemed up in the air with what his plans were for next year. with the economy still in the shitter things will continue to demise.

how is D doing

Brady just started to ride last week some, not ready for any races as he was out 3 months
asked his mom if he could double up on calcium pills last night because he wants to go to Mini O's. didn't get him far lol. goes to doc. Oct. 10. PT says he should get to start road biking after that, going to try to pin doc down to a date then to. hoping to be able to ride when we go to TX for Cmas.

good to hear Brady's back on a bike. hope we get to see you guys in TX.
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mxtech1 wrote:
nick neys?
neysbo wrote:
ha, his dad-- you know Nick I assume- pretty much everyone does.

Are you going to the races at Galesburg Sunday ?
mxtech1 wrote:
yep. I have spoke to you several times before my name is craig morris
oh yeah, for sure I know you.

Do you have your own shop now ?

I have some work needing to get done.
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neysbo wrote:
we talked to him a bit up there at Walnut and he seemed up in the air with what his plans were for next year. with...
we talked to him a bit up there at Walnut and he seemed up in the air with what his plans were for next year. with the economy still in the shitter things will continue to demise.

how is D doing

Brady just started to ride last week some, not ready for any races as he was out 3 months
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asked his mom if he could double up on calcium pills last night because he wants to go to Mini O's. didn't get him far lol...
asked his mom if he could double up on calcium pills last night because he wants to go to Mini O's. didn't get him far lol. goes to doc. Oct. 10. PT says he should get to start road biking after that, going to try to pin doc down to a date then to. hoping to be able to ride when we go to TX for Cmas.

good to hear Brady's back on a bike. hope we get to see you guys in TX.
yeah, I would not rush it as hard as it is not to.

We are for sure planning Texas again probably about like last year - although hope weather nicer up by Dallas this year so can hit more up there
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I'm surprised you are all surprised really, I've been hearing this for years how the factories will eventually not be a factory effort with their own teams. The time I can remember hearing this was at a road race up at Laguna Seca, people were talking about how the factories (motocross part) would be like road racing and have satellite teams, several teams over just one factory team. Yamaha's been without one, so it's just a matter of time.

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neysbo wrote:
ha, his dad-- you know Nick I assume- pretty much everyone does.

Are you going to the races at Galesburg Sunday ?
mxtech1 wrote:
yep. I have spoke to you several times before my name is craig morris
neysbo wrote:
oh yeah, for sure I know you.

Do you have your own shop now ?

I have some work needing to get done.
Yea, I purchased my own home with a nice garage so i'm trying to step up my service support. I've been charging $25 an hour, but maybe we could get something worked out for sponsorhip for your boys if they are planning on racing alot next year. I'm looking to sponsor a handful of riders for next year in way of service, technical, and tuning support. Maybe some decals on the bikes in exhange for a good discount on any service work you guys need done.

I'm also going to be doing winter specials this year which includes stripping the bike down to bare frame and rebuilding from there. All parts will be cleaned, greased, inspected. Everything torqued back to mfg setting. Labor price will be REALLY affordable.

Talk to me sunday at the race, i'll be out there!
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Ryno784 9/23/2011 9:51am
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newmann wrote:
They chopped the amateur program a few years ago.
Suzuki still offers Amateur support through the dealer, I've hooked up a couple of my guys with Parts credits etc... Whether it is continued or not is uncertain.

Suzuki, in the past, was the best company to offer support while being the smallest company out there. It earned my respect and still has it.

Yamaha has a little dealer support as well.

By the way, my dirt bike sales are up over 700%! I'm selling a ton of bikes....
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Sondy132001 wrote:
I'm surprised you are all surprised really, I've been hearing this for years how the factories will eventually not be a factory effort with their own...
I'm surprised you are all surprised really, I've been hearing this for years how the factories will eventually not be a factory effort with their own teams. The time I can remember hearing this was at a road race up at Laguna Seca, people were talking about how the factories (motocross part) would be like road racing and have satellite teams, several teams over just one factory team. Yamaha's been without one, so it's just a matter of time.

S
just wait until an energy drink company actually manufactures a motocross bike. japan will be fucked.

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Sondy132001 wrote:
I'm surprised you are all surprised really, I've been hearing this for years how the factories will eventually not be a factory effort with their own...
I'm surprised you are all surprised really, I've been hearing this for years how the factories will eventually not be a factory effort with their own teams. The time I can remember hearing this was at a road race up at Laguna Seca, people were talking about how the factories (motocross part) would be like road racing and have satellite teams, several teams over just one factory team. Yamaha's been without one, so it's just a matter of time.

S
Premixed wrote:
just wait until an energy drink company actually manufactures a motocross bike. japan will be fucked.
how about wait til the energy drink companies pull their sponsorship dollars, than there will be major cuts
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Ryno784 9/23/2011 1:28pm
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Sondy, remember the video game companies?? (EA, THQ) You still have shirts that say EA Sports Supercross I bet! lol I do!

We thought we'd be done after they left too. Pharmaceutical companies should be next, they have deeeep pockets.
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What if I told you that even without Rockstar and Makita around, that there's already budget for 2012 for Metcalfe, the rig, etc?
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Suzuki had a Chad Reed style insurance policy with LLoyds of London this past year, netting them a million dollars per mechanical DNF. So... their budget's all set.
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Ryno784 wrote:
Sondy, remember the video game companies?? (EA, THQ) You still have shirts that say EA Sports Supercross I bet! lol I do! We thought we'd be...
Sondy, remember the video game companies?? (EA, THQ) You still have shirts that say EA Sports Supercross I bet! lol I do!

We thought we'd be done after they left too. Pharmaceutical companies should be next, they have deeeep pockets.
Im a packrat I have every pass/ticket to every race or concert I've been to maybe even the program ! Not too many shirts I've gotten rid of shirts unless they have CMC on them ! But I did save shirts & hoodies from MC or concerts ! Oh and I have every RacerX from when it was a newspaper till now Woohoo

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Propaganda! wrote:
Suzuki had a Chad Reed style insurance policy with LLoyds of London this past year, netting them a million dollars per mechanical DNF. So... their budget's...
Suzuki had a Chad Reed style insurance policy with LLoyds of London this past year, netting them a million dollars per mechanical DNF. So... their budget's all set.
I'd respond to this, but I think by doing so, I'd lower my IQ another two points.

Oh nooooo...
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GuyB wrote:
What if I told you that even without Rockstar and Makita around, that there's already budget for 2012 for Metcalfe, the rig, etc?
So, would they be willing to run the rig for only one rider? Or, do they have someone else in mind to add to the team?
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mxtech1 wrote:
Since Suzuki is pulling the plug on their factory race efforts what's the word on their amateur support program? Are they still going to provide bikes...
Since Suzuki is pulling the plug on their factory race efforts what's the word on their amateur support program? Are they still going to provide bikes and support to the up-and-comers? What about the amateur contigency program? I'm just wondering how the withdraw at the highest level is going to trickle down. We haven't heard much about how the lower program is going to be effected.
I think this will effect all the programs of the Suzuki racing program. I just hope they continue to build and sell motorcycles. I feel the Suzuki motorcycle is one of the best dirt bikes made. Not reliability wise, but performance. I rode my buddies bike the other day and was blown away on how good the thing was. Maybe time to switch brands?
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GuyB wrote:
What if I told you that even without Rockstar and Makita around, that there's already budget for 2012 for Metcalfe, the rig, etc?
Then that would be great, but I don't see that happening. They would probably come out finiancially better to pay Metcalfe's contract out early and let him sign elswhere. I would think the cost of doing the series with just one rider, who probably won't be competing for a win every weekend, would be too high.

Imo, I would rather see the Suzuki factory effort dissolve for 2 or 3 years and then come back strong in full force with 2 or 3 riders when they get their finances straightened out. If they kept going they are just going to continue to drive their debts into the ground until Suzuki will no longer see the need for a factory race squad and then may never return to racing at a factory effort.

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