Dropping your worst finish.

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The Rock 8/5/2011 2:49pm
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redrider52 wrote:
The only change I think that should be made is considering having a full 16 race sx season for the lites class instead of the regional...
The only change I think that should be made is considering having a full 16 race sx season for the lites class instead of the regional classes. People always said that the lites class has been a stepping stone class, but with the depth of that class I'd say it has become a class of its own.

Think of the caliber of racing that could take place with that change. There's always one coast each year that is a snoozer due to one or two riders winning each week and destroying the rest of the field. So instead of having the Barcia/Wilson battle and the Hansen/Tickle battle you could possibly have a 4-5 way battle each weekend. It would be an East/west shootout each weekend

Besides that, I don't see anything that should be changed
I hear you but disagree.

Reason is I know of some regional SX only teams that can't afford to do a 16 (with Vegas it is 17) race series plus even though there are 250F lifers there is still new blood coming into the class almost every year. It is easier for these newbies to race 8 races than a longer series.

In a perfect world there would be a 125 or 150cc two stroke class the newbies compete in and the 250F teams can still do battle in the 250F class. It doesn't make sense to me a kid has to go from racing at LLs to competing against satellite teams with huge budgets and motors that are built to go two National motos and practice at the next race.
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jammin76tx 8/5/2011 4:19pm
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The Rock wrote:
I hear you but disagree. Reason is I know of some regional SX only teams that can't afford to do a 16 (with Vegas it is...
I hear you but disagree.

Reason is I know of some regional SX only teams that can't afford to do a 16 (with Vegas it is 17) race series plus even though there are 250F lifers there is still new blood coming into the class almost every year. It is easier for these newbies to race 8 races than a longer series.

In a perfect world there would be a 125 or 150cc two stroke class the newbies compete in and the 250F teams can still do battle in the 250F class. It doesn't make sense to me a kid has to go from racing at LLs to competing against satellite teams with huge budgets and motors that are built to go two National motos and practice at the next race.
I like your thinking. Here's my perfect world classes, all with 2 & 4 strokes.
Smile 150 cc class East/West Regional Series, 8 races each with Shootout in Vegas
Laughing 250 cc class
Woohoo Works Open class (350cc-500cc)
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EastFlorida 8/5/2011 4:23pm
8/5/2011 4:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/5/2011 4:24pm
Drop a race/moto...I don't think that is the way to go. I've never believed in "Mulligans", particularly in racing. As mentioned before, the consistent guy gets penalized to some degree, but he should reap the benefit over the guy that had a bad race.
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AUS_Twisted 8/5/2011 4:47pm
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SLAPAHO wrote:
yeah, and maybe have judges and phone in text by the fans to decide who really should have won the series too
I think Reed wouldn't mind this idea after his big crash making World wide news and all lol

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andymoto 8/5/2011 4:50pm
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I thought this season's been the best in quite a very long time myself.

Why screw up a good thing?
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jammin76tx 8/5/2011 4:56pm
8/5/2011 4:56pm Edited Date/Time 8/5/2011 5:19pm
level wrote:
I really believe that Motocross and Supercross needs to undergo some serious changes. The sport has grown considerably in the last decade. I think looking to...
I really believe that Motocross and Supercross needs to undergo some serious changes. The sport has grown considerably in the last decade. I think looking to how Nascar does things can really improve the sport.

That being said. What do you guys think about riders being able to drop there worst finish of the season?
With so many things that can go wrong from a first turn pileup, mechanical failure, limited injury, flu, other sickness, etc. Having one bad finish can really be detrimental to a riders championships hope.

I don't know why it would really hurt. Everybody benefits from it. I think it's something that should seriously be considered.
Interesting thought. Doing some figuring on last year's 250 MX points, with a 1 moto throwaway system:

1st Canard 467
2nd Pourcel 443
3rd Rattray 441

Actual 2010 Points

1st Canard 474
2nd Rattray 446
3rd Pourcel 443

If the riders had to drop their worst moto finish, Rattray would have finished 3nd overall, not 2nd. Like Steve S stated earlier in this thread, dropping a finish punishes the consistent rider. The question is, who do you gear the system towards? the consistent guy (Reed/Dungey) or ride on the edge guy (Stewart).

If applied to this years SX series, Dungey would have finished 2nd instead of Reed. And Villopoto would have won by 17 points, not 4 points.

Applied to current 450 MX, Dungey would benefit the most at this point in the series.

1st Dungey 340 vs 340
2nd Villopoto 329 vs 341
3rd Reed 325 vs 332
Interstellar Overdrive 8/5/2011 5:24pm
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"That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom" [img]https://www.wertel.pro/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/jump-to-conclusions-mat.jpg[/img]
"That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom"

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FreshTopEnd 8/5/2011 5:35pm
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The only time dropping a bad result makes sense is in a short series. Longer series tend to even things out in terms of bad breaks. Last year's 250 championship kind of bears that out.
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Ddavis 8/5/2011 7:16pm
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Everything's fine.
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chaney102 8/5/2011 7:30pm
8/5/2011 7:30pm
There is a problem in the nats with the fact that 20 of the positions arent even points paying. So if you are in the championship hunt and go down in the first turn you have to spend half the race charging just to get into the points. That can kill someones championship especially late in the season. I think the points structure should change and at least award points back to 30th...so that it would keep the championship points chase closer and not kill someones points if they go down in the first turn or something similar.

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