Sell your 350

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Big 6/13/2011 9:54am
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jemcee wrote:
how did alessi go in his first two motos last year?
JCRF217 wrote:
How did he do the rest of the season? two good motos can't make up for 22 bad ones.
kongols wrote:
So you already know how he`ll do for the rest of this season. PM me the results of Red Bud, Budds and Pala. I sure could...
So you already know how he`ll do for the rest of this season. PM me the results of Red Bud, Budds and Pala. I sure could use some cash, cause we have a new engine to tune and it`s not cheap.Whistling Evil Huh
Side-car? Leave it to Harrie van Hout in Geldrop Holland. Tuned Sergis engines many year. Four-stroke? Send it to Tom Morgan USA. (or Harrie) Good luck!
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carlosmacho 6/13/2011 11:31am
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gotwings wrote:
People don't do the research before they buy a Ktm. Most people can't afford to keep one running, long term. With $75 clutch levers, and $900...
People don't do the research before they buy a Ktm. Most people can't afford to keep one running, long term. With $75 clutch levers, and $900 crankshafts, Ktm is laughing all the way to the bank!
TeamGreen wrote:
Those prices are for a Retard: After-market levers, rebuild the crank...solved. For the masses, the KTM can be a really good deal...jus' take care of the...
Those prices are for a Retard: After-market levers, rebuild the crank...solved.

For the masses, the KTM can be a really good deal...jus' take care of the damn thing.

As to dependability? I've seen KTM take really good care of folks with legit-warranty issues.

And, No! I haven't owned 1 since '91...but, I've ridden and raced them over the last 3 years & i've been damn impressed...especially with the SXS stuff and a well set-up 250SX 2 stroke...

Byw, the best guy to know when setting up a Katoom? Mr. 111
I had a pro AMA rider tell me that just to get a KTM suspension so it will work as well as a Japanese bike out the box with the right springs for weight and a few clicks on the suspension, it costs thousands of dollars. The suspension has always been terrible at least the ones I rode. I did ride a 350 and it was better but I still didn't like it that much.

There are more hidden costs to KTM. To get the power a 350 has to be competitive with a 450, they have to ring the HP out of the motor and for the average guy that means more maintenance.

Even if Short was taking firsts on the bike, I would not buy one, pros at those levels have people to build those bike near every race. What average guy can afford that? The average novice/B/vet/senior rider (who probably buy more bikes for themselves than local pros and AMA pros together. will race a bike a year before even thinking about a rebuild. That is when reliability kicks in and where parts on higher performance motorcycles wear quicker.

But if you trail ride a bit and catch a few races a year, the KTM is probably fine.
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ATKpilot99 6/13/2011 11:41am
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carlosmacho wrote:
I had a pro AMA rider tell me that just to get a KTM suspension so it will work as well as a Japanese bike out...
I had a pro AMA rider tell me that just to get a KTM suspension so it will work as well as a Japanese bike out the box with the right springs for weight and a few clicks on the suspension, it costs thousands of dollars. The suspension has always been terrible at least the ones I rode. I did ride a 350 and it was better but I still didn't like it that much.

There are more hidden costs to KTM. To get the power a 350 has to be competitive with a 450, they have to ring the HP out of the motor and for the average guy that means more maintenance.

Even if Short was taking firsts on the bike, I would not buy one, pros at those levels have people to build those bike near every race. What average guy can afford that? The average novice/B/vet/senior rider (who probably buy more bikes for themselves than local pros and AMA pros together. will race a bike a year before even thinking about a rebuild. That is when reliability kicks in and where parts on higher performance motorcycles wear quicker.

But if you trail ride a bit and catch a few races a year, the KTM is probably fine.
Which AMA pro told you it costs thousands of dollars to get KTM suspension to work as good as out of the box Japanese bike suspension?
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TeamGreen 6/13/2011 12:55pm
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gotwings wrote:
People don't do the research before they buy a Ktm. Most people can't afford to keep one running, long term. With $75 clutch levers, and $900...
People don't do the research before they buy a Ktm. Most people can't afford to keep one running, long term. With $75 clutch levers, and $900 crankshafts, Ktm is laughing all the way to the bank!
TeamGreen wrote:
Those prices are for a Retard: After-market levers, rebuild the crank...solved. For the masses, the KTM can be a really good deal...jus' take care of the...
Those prices are for a Retard: After-market levers, rebuild the crank...solved.

For the masses, the KTM can be a really good deal...jus' take care of the damn thing.

As to dependability? I've seen KTM take really good care of folks with legit-warranty issues.

And, No! I haven't owned 1 since '91...but, I've ridden and raced them over the last 3 years & i've been damn impressed...especially with the SXS stuff and a well set-up 250SX 2 stroke...

Byw, the best guy to know when setting up a Katoom? Mr. 111
carlosmacho wrote:
I had a pro AMA rider tell me that just to get a KTM suspension so it will work as well as a Japanese bike out...
I had a pro AMA rider tell me that just to get a KTM suspension so it will work as well as a Japanese bike out the box with the right springs for weight and a few clicks on the suspension, it costs thousands of dollars. The suspension has always been terrible at least the ones I rode. I did ride a 350 and it was better but I still didn't like it that much.

There are more hidden costs to KTM. To get the power a 350 has to be competitive with a 450, they have to ring the HP out of the motor and for the average guy that means more maintenance.

Even if Short was taking firsts on the bike, I would not buy one, pros at those levels have people to build those bike near every race. What average guy can afford that? The average novice/B/vet/senior rider (who probably buy more bikes for themselves than local pros and AMA pros together. will race a bike a year before even thinking about a rebuild. That is when reliability kicks in and where parts on higher performance motorcycles wear quicker.

But if you trail ride a bit and catch a few races a year, the KTM is probably fine.
Call Enzo...ask them how much for a revalve with springs for a SXF and the same for a KXF.

I'm no KTM-guy; but, some of this stuff is gettin' silly.

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gotwings 6/13/2011 1:25pm
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gotwings wrote:
People don't do the research before they buy a Ktm. Most people can't afford to keep one running, long term. With $75 clutch levers, and $900...
People don't do the research before they buy a Ktm. Most people can't afford to keep one running, long term. With $75 clutch levers, and $900 crankshafts, Ktm is laughing all the way to the bank!
TeamGreen wrote:
Those prices are for a Retard: After-market levers, rebuild the crank...solved. For the masses, the KTM can be a really good deal...jus' take care of the...
Those prices are for a Retard: After-market levers, rebuild the crank...solved.

For the masses, the KTM can be a really good deal...jus' take care of the damn thing.

As to dependability? I've seen KTM take really good care of folks with legit-warranty issues.

And, No! I haven't owned 1 since '91...but, I've ridden and raced them over the last 3 years & i've been damn impressed...especially with the SXS stuff and a well set-up 250SX 2 stroke...

Byw, the best guy to know when setting up a Katoom? Mr. 111
I checked on that already. They don't offer a rod kit, and Hotcams doesn't make a crank for the new Ktm's.
Btw, cases are $1500, Honda 450 cases are $400.
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TeamGreen 6/13/2011 4:04pm
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You said $900 Crank...I said, rebuild it.

You said $75 levers...I said, after-market.

You say $1500 cases, I say...shop around.

Yes, the Honda is cheaper; but, for the masses...the KTM can be very cheap to own.

The Honda, btw, doesn't have the best track record for Valves, Seats, Clutches, Cam (wear), oil-retention...shall I go on?
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MX558 6/15/2011 9:05am
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I rode a 45 hp Honda 250f yesterday and that is a nice bike it was fast but no grunt. I still like my 450 for my fat ass. With the KTM weighing the same as a 450 what's the point of having less power. I would take the hopped up 250f any day over the 350 pig.
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MX558 6/15/2011 9:07am
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TeamGreen wrote:
You said $900 Crank...I said, rebuild it. You said $75 levers...I said, after-market. You say $1500 cases, I say...shop around. Yes, the Honda is cheaper; but...
You said $900 Crank...I said, rebuild it.

You said $75 levers...I said, after-market.

You say $1500 cases, I say...shop around.

Yes, the Honda is cheaper; but, for the masses...the KTM can be very cheap to own.

The Honda, btw, doesn't have the best track record for Valves, Seats, Clutches, Cam (wear), oil-retention...shall I go on?
If parts are that expensive no way I buy that pile. Good luck shopping around for cases when you have a race coming up.
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burn1986 6/15/2011 9:40am
6/15/2011 9:40am Edited Date/Time 6/15/2011 9:41am
Why doesn't KTM make the 350 lighter than the 450? The 250F is lighter. Why can't the 350 be as light as the 250? It's right in the middle (100cc each way)? I don't get it.
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gotwings 6/15/2011 2:28pm
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MX558 wrote:
I rode a 45 hp Honda 250f yesterday and that is a nice bike it was fast but no grunt. I still like my 450 for...
I rode a 45 hp Honda 250f yesterday and that is a nice bike it was fast but no grunt. I still like my 450 for my fat ass. With the KTM weighing the same as a 450 what's the point of having less power. I would take the hopped up 250f any day over the 350 pig.
It does't weight the same as a 450, it weighs 6 lbs. more than my 09 Crf450r, stock.
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MX558 6/15/2011 4:02pm
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MX558 wrote:
I rode a 45 hp Honda 250f yesterday and that is a nice bike it was fast but no grunt. I still like my 450 for...
I rode a 45 hp Honda 250f yesterday and that is a nice bike it was fast but no grunt. I still like my 450 for my fat ass. With the KTM weighing the same as a 450 what's the point of having less power. I would take the hopped up 250f any day over the 350 pig.
gotwings wrote:
It does't weight the same as a 450, it weighs 6 lbs. more than my 09 Crf450r, stock.
I know that's even funnier.
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BlueThumper 6/15/2011 7:26pm
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Have any of you guys crying about a 350 weighing the same as a 450 even rode one, raced one, or rode a 450 back to back with a 350? Probably not.
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thordude 6/15/2011 8:25pm
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If you don't sell your 350, make sure you buy the recommended Motorex oil specifically made for that bike. If not your main bearings will break down and low and behold katoom.
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I still say it probably is an easier bike to ride, but I bet the fact that sometimes you get cut off, and need flat out hp to pull past someone or clear something... And the pros every now and then would need that max hp...

If it's just laptimes I bet it's competitive, but racing is different...
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kongols 6/15/2011 9:53pm
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JCRF217 wrote:
How did he do the rest of the season? two good motos can't make up for 22 bad ones.
kongols wrote:
So you already know how he`ll do for the rest of this season. PM me the results of Red Bud, Budds and Pala. I sure could...
So you already know how he`ll do for the rest of this season. PM me the results of Red Bud, Budds and Pala. I sure could use some cash, cause we have a new engine to tune and it`s not cheap.Whistling Evil Huh
Big wrote:
Side-car? Leave it to Harrie van Hout in Geldrop Holland. Tuned Sergis engines many year. Four-stroke? Send it to Tom Morgan USA. (or Harrie) Good luck!
No, it`s KTM 85SX
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kongols 6/15/2011 10:01pm
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thordude wrote:
If you don't sell your 350, make sure you buy the recommended Motorex oil specifically made for that bike. If not your main bearings will break...
If you don't sell your 350, make sure you buy the recommended Motorex oil specifically made for that bike. If not your main bearings will break down and low and behold katoom.
X100. Somehow oil is the most important thing for KTM. We found out about it in a most expensive way- two engine rebuild way. We switched from Suzuki to KTM this winter and what worked for Suzi totally failed for KTM. Instead of Motorex we were suggested Denicol.

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