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twizzler 5/14/2008 10:53pm
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Money talks. Most of the riders just care about the money. They and the sponsors don't give a shit about the integrity of the sport.
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az2u 5/14/2008 10:57pm
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No outdoors for Stewart? F&%K!!
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jdub347 5/14/2008 11:02pm
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Stewart SX only? Man, SX only riders and the 12 1/2 minute mains make going up to Phx for the SX harder and harder....maybe next year I will just put the $200+ bucks I would spend going up there towards gas and premix and go riding all weekend.
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If you guys could make the same amount of money at your job only working 1/2 a year, what would you do?

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twizzler 5/14/2008 11:06pm
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Scotty wrote:
If you guys could make the same amount of money at your job only working 1/2 a year, what would you do?
Ride outdoor motocross. Exactly what they should be doing.
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Scotty 5/14/2008 11:11pm
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Scotty wrote:
If you guys could make the same amount of money at your job only working 1/2 a year, what would you do?
twizzler wrote:
Ride outdoor motocross. Exactly what they should be doing.
Yep I agree.. Sx used to be good, now its like WWF. Bring on the outdoors
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Did anyone else hear SX only for JBS? SX only sucks. Who was it a few months back that said they should mix it up SX,MX...
Did anyone else hear SX only for JBS? SX only sucks. Who was it a few months back that said they should mix it up SX,MX every race or 2?
It used to be that way with Grand National Championships before MX. The riders rode TT, Flat Track, RR, Mile 1/2 Mile ... and the winner was good at all. I think MX and SX should go that way to give the riders a break in their season. To do both is too long now. Outdoors is where it's at to me. To not have the top rides at these races really sucks.
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Little Dave 5/15/2008 1:53am
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Can't wait for the haters to rip apart Stewart for his pussy SX only contract. Oh and Wardy.
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You know what? I'd 100% guarantee that anyone here would jump at the chance to work for only half the year. I know I would.

While I'd like to see all the guys race year-round, things change. Call it evolution.

You know what that means? More opportunity for more winners. Not the same old, same old on the podium every week. It also means that there's more room for up-and-comers in an environment that they're already familiar with. I hate to say it, but how much more interesting was the outdoor season after James got hurt last year? The fields were wide open, with more than a handful of guys who had a shot at a moto win.

While I may not like it, I can live with it. And I'm looking forward to the outdoors, just like always.
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CR250Rider 5/15/2008 4:20am
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it means RC's record of total wins will not be broken by JS

150? 151? i can''t remember.
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catatonic 5/15/2008 5:14am
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So Stewart is skipping outdoors this year or after this year?
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CR250Rider wrote:
it means RC's record of total wins will not be broken by JS

150? 151? i can''t remember.
James knows he can't get the outdoor records now, which is one of the reasons I think he is going SX only. He thinks he still has a chance with some of the SX records.(most wins) C'ships are a long shot.
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flarider 5/15/2008 5:35am
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1/2 a year for same pay?
Count me in!

Now, if DMG does what it plans and hopes, making their MX brand a premier brand, and secures more media and attention, you may see the end of SX only contracts.
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CR250Rider wrote:
it means RC's record of total wins will not be broken by JS

150? 151? i can''t remember.
rcm406 wrote:
James knows he can't get the outdoor records now, which is one of the reasons I think he is going SX only. He thinks he still...
James knows he can't get the outdoor records now, which is one of the reasons I think he is going SX only. He thinks he still has a chance with some of the SX records.(most wins) C'ships are a long shot.
I think James realized a while back that the record books will be difficult, due to the injuries and time outs
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tuz371 5/15/2008 5:38am
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Stewart should just take off this outdoor season to prepare for the 2009 SX season. no reason for him to go race outdoors and maybe rag doll off a step-down, have a motor grenade in mid-flight, tweak a knee later in the season that could screw up the '09 SX season. Just saying, you know?

If Stewart is signed with L&M for next year, could Kawasaki terminate Stewart's current contract and not have to pay him for the outdoors?

If it's just about the $$$ and his salary is not guaranteed in the event of injury, he should lay off riding as much as possible or get some damn good insurance that would pay if he gets hurt and cannot perform his job and in turn, collect a paycheck.
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R-acer 5/15/2008 5:44am
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So did James or Kawasaki announce this? or is this some hints from Reed? Because I dont believe a word that comes out of reeds mouth anymore
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flarider 5/15/2008 5:52am
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WAIT A MINIUTE!!
HOLD ON....HOLD ON...

WOAH...

If I remember right, we were told it's not silly season yet
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CR250Rider wrote:
it means RC's record of total wins will not be broken by JS

150? 151? i can''t remember.
rcm406 wrote:
James knows he can't get the outdoor records now, which is one of the reasons I think he is going SX only. He thinks he still...
James knows he can't get the outdoor records now, which is one of the reasons I think he is going SX only. He thinks he still has a chance with some of the SX records.(most wins) C'ships are a long shot.
flarider wrote:
I think James realized a while back that the record books will be difficult, due to the injuries and time outs
BL must be crushed!

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mx714 5/15/2008 6:32am
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So what obligation does DMG have not to hold races that conflict with Supercross or FIM world events, since they are not technically the AMA?
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varagon 5/15/2008 6:32am
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So can Yamaha afford both JS and Reed? I don't think soI expect to see Reed on another color next year, either yellow or red.
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mxdude660 5/15/2008 6:46am
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So can Yamaha afford both JS and Reed? I don't think soI expect to see Reed on another color next year, either yellow or red.
It is much more likely that JGR stays with Yamaha because of the Toyota relationship. This leaves Reed on blue (McCarthy apparently has his back) and San Manuel (JS?) on a different color, yellow or red probably.
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jtomasik 5/15/2008 6:47am
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Talk is that Cairoli is test driving F1's and rally cars. Seems like we're getting riders with smarts. Too bad it isn't like the old days, where the riders were dumb and willing to beat the crap out of themselves just to ride chopped up hardpack.

Right, Bobby?

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flarider 5/15/2008 6:49am
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mx714 wrote:
So what obligation does DMG have not to hold races that conflict with Supercross or FIM world events, since they are not technically the AMA?
Without reading the contract, who knows
But common sense would dictate same rules would apply, as well as I am sure that when LN's SX contract expires, DMG would have the rights to it and LN would have to negotiate eith DMG at that time, as owners of AMA Pro Racing.
I am also sure that the DMG ownership includes FIM Charter Membership, as DMG events will require AMA licensing
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FARANG 5/15/2008 7:01am
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flarider wrote:
1/2 a year for same pay? Count me in! Now, if DMG does what it plans and hopes, making their MX brand a premier brand, and...
1/2 a year for same pay?
Count me in!

Now, if DMG does what it plans and hopes, making their MX brand a premier brand, and secures more media and attention, you may see the end of SX only contracts.
So James races outdoors for nothing at the moment? SX may pay more than the outdoors but he's not gonna earn as much doing one series as he could make doing both, even if the outdoors pays less than SX...

James is going SX only for a number of reasons.

1. He's better indoors than outdoors.
2. He doesn't have to work as hard, on or off the track.
3. It might give him a chance of breaking some records (wins, not titles).
4. He's less likely to get injured.

I'm not criticizing the guy, it's his choice and he's earned that choice - but let's not pretend that he'd be financially naive to race both series. Some people trade their legacy in a given sport for money and an easier life. Take football ("soccer" in the US) as an example, Beckham could have been a living legend at Manchester United, but he chose to make more money and have an easier life at Real Madrid/LA Galaxy.

Stewart is doing the same thing. It's up to him - his choice - but let's not make it out to be an indication of his superior intellect when it's clearly an indication of something else.
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R-acer 5/15/2008 7:06am
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Again.... did James Stewart OR Kawasaki announce that he is not running MX? Last interview I saw, James says he will be on the line come round one outdoors.
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jtomasik 5/15/2008 7:10am
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Reed no longer at L&M and unofficially JS is going to fill the void at L&M

That would make me right on both points!! Wink
Nah. It won't. There are a lot of new riders coming up through the ranks to make it exciting. Heck, it's arguably better without one rider to dominate (not that James ever did that outdoors in the big bores). I'd rather see the battles.

Townley this summer. Villo, possibly Canard, Dungey, and many others soon to come. It's still gonna be good, even if a bunch go SX only or jump ship completely.
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BobbyM 5/15/2008 7:13am
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You know what? I'd 100% guarantee that anyone here would jump at the chance to work for only half the year. I know I would. While...
You know what? I'd 100% guarantee that anyone here would jump at the chance to work for only half the year. I know I would.

While I'd like to see all the guys race year-round, things change. Call it evolution.

You know what that means? More opportunity for more winners. Not the same old, same old on the podium every week. It also means that there's more room for up-and-comers in an environment that they're already familiar with. I hate to say it, but how much more interesting was the outdoor season after James got hurt last year? The fields were wide open, with more than a handful of guys who had a shot at a moto win.

While I may not like it, I can live with it. And I'm looking forward to the outdoors, just like always.
yer right guyb, james brought amazing speed to the outdoors, much more than sx due to the confines of the stadiums.

james also brought spectacular endos, loop outs and highsides that cannot be matched. i am gonna miss him in the outdoors for sure. remember that backjack onto rc at unadilla, or that huge wipeout at hi point, or that swapdown at budds creek or that....lmao.

good for him...he'll make more money for doing less. of course it sucks for the fan base...but the fuck the fans, afterall what do they do for the sport? I mean it's not like they contribute in any way shape or form...do they?

more pussification of the sport. if they had a grand national champ maybe that would be different

bring on the outdoors and bring on some good racin.
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bogdan912 5/15/2008 7:18am
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Is there any other sports where an athlete finishes one season and starts the next one up a couple weeks later? Year round training, riding, racing with no real break? Is there any other sport where the athletes start this regimen at 4 yrs old? I can't blame any one of those guys for going SX only. They have been full bore non stop their entire lives. Who else could hold that pace?
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BMSOB 5/15/2008 7:20am
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BobbyM wrote:
yer right guyb, james brought amazing speed to the outdoors, much more than sx due to the confines of the stadiums. james also brought spectacular endos...
yer right guyb, james brought amazing speed to the outdoors, much more than sx due to the confines of the stadiums.

james also brought spectacular endos, loop outs and highsides that cannot be matched. i am gonna miss him in the outdoors for sure. remember that backjack onto rc at unadilla, or that huge wipeout at hi point, or that swapdown at budds creek or that....lmao.

good for him...he'll make more money for doing less. of course it sucks for the fan base...but the fuck the fans, afterall what do they do for the sport? I mean it's not like they contribute in any way shape or form...do they?

more pussification of the sport. if they had a grand national champ maybe that would be different

bring on the outdoors and bring on some good racin.
Well said.
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BIGWIG 5/15/2008 7:26am
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What a bunch of whiners. The only people who like the outdoors are the hillbillies that live out in those sh*tholes where the races are held.
Actually I take that back, I forgot about the other 99% of the fans out there that never actually travel to one, but rather watch them while sitting on their over sized couch every Sunday on Speed.

F the outdoors, good riddance.

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