2 stroke pipe repair. Point out my error

Ok vitards.
Im ready to attempt my first pipe repair.
No one in the US makes a repair kit so after looking at all the home made kits I came up with my solution.
Expandable freeze plugs from an automotive store.

The plug on the big end of the pipe would need to be tapped and fitted with a Schrader valve.

It actually was pretty simple. I started with small drill bits and worked my way up. The first 3 drill bits I went all the way through the rubber and the metal on the othe side. This will allow the air to pass all the way through. As the drill bits got bigger I would go through the top metal plate and only half way through the rubber. This is to allow a tight compression type fit between the plug and the valve.

Once I got it all done I hooked it up to air. Started with 10 psi then submerged in water to check for leaks. Then up to 20 then 30 and so on until I got up to 60 psi.

From what I have read and seen on videos I would start with 20 psi in the pipe and when heating with a torch the air will get up to around the 50-60 psi range.

So am I missing anything here? Anyone see anything life threatening with this set up. For added safety i may secure the plugs to the pipe with some safety wire.

Obviously this will be done outside with the plugs aimed in a safe direction in case of failure. Bit this seems to be a simple solution that is reusable and should fit nearly every 125cc and up pipe.

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8/3/2016 1:45pm
I secured my plug with like 10 layers of duct tape and it still popped off and bounced off what seemed like every wall in my garage but luckily like you said I was making sure to keep it pointed away from me. I think I was over 100 PSI though cause I had a stubborn crease I was trying to get out. Once you think you have enough safety wire I would just add a bit more to be sure. I also found that with some dents air worked better and others putting water and freezing then repeating the freezing method also worked better sometimes but that was with a 4 stroke header so may be different for a pipe. Good luck!
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8/3/2016 2:54pm
Use safety wire. Then more. I only used about 30 psi and some patience.
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8/3/2016 3:04pm
If air doesn't do the trick for you, I have had luck with freezing pipes. Sometimes a bad crease will crack open but as long as you have a welder around you will be just fine. Then some high temp paint after a little grinding and you are good to go.

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8/3/2016 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2016 6:40pm
I was doing pipes like that years ago, yep freeze out plugs oxy acetylene torch heat till red, used a foot pump add pressure slowly , you don't need a lot of pressure, 30 lbs sounds good..have to take a look pretty sure i still have my setup in the old tool box
8/3/2016 7:29pm
Ot turned out to be a tuff one. On a seam and creased at that. Looks kinda rough in the after pic but that's cause I hit it with some sand paper after words.

My mistake was being cheap and getting a propane torch instead of a map torch. Took forever and was hard to keep a large area hot.
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8/4/2016 10:19am
I throw a wet towel over plugs in case they pop. It will kill the momentum. Then tap around the edge of dent with a ball peen hammer as you add air & heat. 50lbs has been my max. Just takes time & patience and I can usually get most dents out pretty well. Creases are a bitch, though..........
8/4/2016 11:13pm
I use variety of rubber plugs you would find in the plumbing section of a hard ware store. I drill a hole on both plugs to be used. The plug for the engine side gets a nut, bolt and 2 big washers. Install bolt with washer and put a washer and nut on. Install in the pipe and tighten down really tight then wrap the shit out of it with mechanics wire. Be sure to put the bolt in the bottom of the plug so the nut side will be exposed and you can use the extra threads to wrap your wire around. On the tail end of the pipe I'll take a rubber plug and grind it down so it's slightly bigger than the ID of the pipe. I put a long threaded schrader valve with a washer in the plug and slide it in the pipe and tighten it. Wrap the shit out of it as well with mechanics wire. I usually start out with 60psi but pretty much end up around 100psi to get the bigger creased dents out. If the pipe is twisted air pressure alone will usually straighten that out without heat. Hope this helps.
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8/5/2016 10:13am
Guys we used to have a somewhat local guy forget his name, was kind of an enduro guy, he had a place fix-a-dent, something like that$50 bucks , he would fix your pipe. He basically showed me how to do it..and that was it i fixwd them myself after that. using freeze out plugs, he had some other type of clamp style thing i think he used to use on one of the ends, just made it faster. but you really have to heat the dents cherry red, then a small amount of pressure pops them right back into shape..but you really need oxy acetylene..propane, map, forget it,,maybe ok in a pinch
8/19/2016 5:12am Edited Date/Time 8/19/2016 5:36am
Well worked on it some more and am very happy with the results.
Used an acetylene torch made a world of difference. Only regret was not taking more before picks. The main dent still didn't come out fully but there were other spots that had smaller ones and they came right out. It was like a magic eraser to remove pipe dents lol.

8/19/2016 5:18am Edited Date/Time 8/19/2016 5:37am
Here is what it looks like now. Took a little work with scrubpads, steel wool and wd40.



8/19/2016 5:33am
And the rest of the bike is coming along great too. Motor got a fresh top and bottom end. I will update the look with a 2011 front fender and numberplate.
Fender bolts right up number plate will require 2 fabricated brackets but nothing hard to do.

For now just going to put the engine in her and stretch her legs out a bit and decide if I want to keep it or flip it. So far I'm into the bike a yz85 that I traded, about $400 for the top and bottom end and lots of scrubbing.
If I keep it she will get tore down to the frame again and powder coating/anodizing and polishing treatments..

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