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Edited Date/Time 12/13/2012 7:23am
What is the latest info to be aware of regarding iPads? I know nothing about that stuff but contemplating getting my kid one when he is home from Okinawa.

Do you guys know if an iPad that is bought in America will work in Japan ?

Educate a dumb Texakin please.
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12/11/2012 7:25am
iPad works off wifi for it's internet connection. You would have to do some research on that to see but I don't see why it wouldn't work in Japan since wifi works off your home internet router. If he wants an internet connection without wifi then he will need to get one that has integrated cellular and then you will need to sign up for a cell plan in Japan to use it. I wouldn't do that-just get the wifi only version of the iPad.

He will love it. You have the iPad mini or the new regular size iPad. Def get the regular size iPad. Thing is great. It's fast as shit, great battery life and wonderful screen.
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12/11/2012 7:34am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2012 7:54am
It will work with overseas Wifi. He will enjoy having it for travel and stuff too.

Now, which iPad?

there is the inexpensive-ish iPad 2 starting around $400, The iPad mini(don't bother) and the newest iPad with retina display starting at $500. For a traveller, you will want more memory in the device so I would suggest getting the 64gb model.
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12/11/2012 7:39am Edited Date/Time 12/11/2012 7:44am
It will work with overseas Wifi. He will enjoy having it for travel and stuff too. Now, which iPad? there is the inexpensive-ish iPad 2 starting...
It will work with overseas Wifi. He will enjoy having it for travel and stuff too.

Now, which iPad?

there is the inexpensive-ish iPad 2 starting around $400, The iPad mini(don't bother) and the newest iPad with retina display starting at $500. For a traveller, you will want more memory in the device so I would suggest getting the 64gb model.
Thanks Chief

I was thinking about all the long flights he has to take and maybe an iPad would make those 18-hour flights more bearable? He also will be going to Thailand soon also and thought it might be of use somehow? Hes an 0602 and wondered if he could use it for work somehow? I dunno, just guessing here.

So if cost didnt matter, what would you get specifically ?
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12/11/2012 7:44am Edited Date/Time 12/11/2012 7:44am
I had emailed and asked what he'd like to have and I got this link and that he'd love one for his Colt M4 at home. (apparently this is the exact same one he uses at work?)

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TA31RCO-M4CP

Ummm, maybe next year if I hit the lotto. LOL Dizzy

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12/11/2012 7:49am
Racer92 wrote:
Thanks Chief I was thinking about all the long flights he has to take and maybe an iPad would make those 18-hour flights more bearable? He...
Thanks Chief

I was thinking about all the long flights he has to take and maybe an iPad would make those 18-hour flights more bearable? He also will be going to Thailand soon also and thought it might be of use somehow? Hes an 0602 and wondered if he could use it for work somehow? I dunno, just guessing here.

So if cost didnt matter, what would you get specifically ?
I was thinking about all the long flights he has to take and maybe an iPad would make those 18-hour flights more bearable?

Definitely a good choice for that.....I use my tablet when travelling and it's great.
Lighter than a laptop and you can have music, books, movies etc....

Invest in a Zag Shield (screen cover) and a good solid case for it too.
12/11/2012 7:54am
Ipads are communist tools of hate and destruction! Oh screen shields suck, you don't need them unless you have a 3 year that will be using it.
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12/11/2012 7:55am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2012 7:54am
The New iPad with retina display and 64gb memory.
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They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model.
I have found with both my iphone and ipad that when on a power converter (euro 220v to US 110v) the unit acts and responds funny, it basically works like crap when plugged in. When unplugged, it's fine, but if plugged in, it's crap...keep that in mind, and it didn't matter what converter I used (I tried several)
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flarider wrote:
They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model. I have found with both my...
They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model.
I have found with both my iphone and ipad that when on a power converter (euro 220v to US 110v) the unit acts and responds funny, it basically works like crap when plugged in. When unplugged, it's fine, but if plugged in, it's crap...keep that in mind, and it didn't matter what converter I used (I tried several)
That is good info, thanks.

What do you mean "non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you" ?
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12/11/2012 9:09am
flarider wrote:
They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model. I have found with both my...
They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model.
I have found with both my iphone and ipad that when on a power converter (euro 220v to US 110v) the unit acts and responds funny, it basically works like crap when plugged in. When unplugged, it's fine, but if plugged in, it's crap...keep that in mind, and it didn't matter what converter I used (I tried several)
We have unlimited data on our ipad2 pretty handy on 3G and honestly going wifi only would severely limit its usefullness for our needs. I wouldn't go without it personally
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I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you see a cool video and you get the message "ur device sucks and doesn't support java" or what ever the fuck it is. Other than that it's cool. It's an oversized ipod touch really.Laughing Laughing
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I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you...
I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you see a cool video and you get the message "ur device sucks and doesn't support java" or what ever the fuck it is. Other than that it's cool. It's an oversized ipod touch really.Laughing Laughing
Java? I thought it was Flash that wasnt supported?
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12/11/2012 9:24am
flarider wrote:
They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model. I have found with both my...
They work fine overseas. Non-wifi data (cellular) will kill you, you might want to opt for the "wifi only" model.
I have found with both my iphone and ipad that when on a power converter (euro 220v to US 110v) the unit acts and responds funny, it basically works like crap when plugged in. When unplugged, it's fine, but if plugged in, it's crap...keep that in mind, and it didn't matter what converter I used (I tried several)
Hut wrote:
We have unlimited data on our ipad2 pretty handy on 3G and honestly going wifi only would severely limit its usefullness for our needs. I wouldn't...
We have unlimited data on our ipad2 pretty handy on 3G and honestly going wifi only would severely limit its usefullness for our needs. I wouldn't go without it personally
The reason Im curious about the 3G stuff is that when he got to Okinawa a year ago, the iPhone 3GS that he was using here in the USA with AT&T, would not work over there and he had to get a different phone.

Im just wondering if that kinda thing would apply to the iPad also?

I know, Im fulla a zillion questions. Blink
12/11/2012 9:30am
I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you...
I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you see a cool video and you get the message "ur device sucks and doesn't support java" or what ever the fuck it is. Other than that it's cool. It's an oversized ipod touch really.Laughing Laughing
Racer92 wrote:
Java? I thought it was Flash that wasnt supported?
that's what I thought....I get several online vids I can't see cause it's not supported.
the wifi is just that, wifi access. typically unlimited.
the other access talked about above is as long as you have cell service, you can search the internet on that account. It will suck up data usage and not be cheap. The iPad models are different I believe. Not worth the extra $$ for the wifi/cell option. Stick with wifi only option imo.

Why not just get a tablet, non Apple, for a fraction of the cost? You can get a tablet android for around $200 and will do everything your ipad will do. or am I missing something here?
I got my ipad free last year as a gift. If I had to pay cash for it myself, I would go android....cause I'm a cheap bastard.
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I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you...
I have the lastest and greatest Ipad, though it is cool to sit on the couch and fart around it does suck duck nuts when you see a cool video and you get the message "ur device sucks and doesn't support java" or what ever the fuck it is. Other than that it's cool. It's an oversized ipod touch really.Laughing Laughing
Racer92 wrote:
Java? I thought it was Flash that wasnt supported?
Ding, ding, ding, it's flash. I couldn't remember if it was Java or Flash but you sir, are correct.Blush
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12/11/2012 9:37am Edited Date/Time 12/11/2012 9:39am
Racer92 wrote:
The reason Im curious about the 3G stuff is that when he got to Okinawa a year ago, the iPhone 3GS that he was using here...
The reason Im curious about the 3G stuff is that when he got to Okinawa a year ago, the iPhone 3GS that he was using here in the USA with AT&T, would not work over there and he had to get a different phone.

Im just wondering if that kinda thing would apply to the iPad also?

I know, Im fulla a zillion questions. Blink
Sorry I can't help you there. I believe Japan uses a different cell technology than USA but have no idea past that. If he intends to use the iPad in Japan for the most part perhaps you could get a Japan version and the wifi would still work everywhere else or vise versa???
We do a lot of traveling in the USA and avoid big cities so our ipad2 works great on the road for us in 3G cellular and wifi when we have it. Everyone's needs are different though. Of course if he already has an iPhone with decent data plan he could set it up to use as a wifi hotspot for his iPad (for a fee of course)
Wish I was more help, good luck
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12/11/2012 9:39am
The US is on an older antiquated cellular system compared to the rest of the world, but we are catching up.
Your iPad should be cellular compatible overseas, his phone should have been as well. I can only assume he did not buy the data plan for overseas or have international roaming turned on (it is a feature you need ti turn on)
Your unlimited data plan you buy here is not valid overseas, you have to buy a different (and expensive) overseas cellular data plan.
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Also another thing that sucks is, you can't embed videos or pictures. If theirs a way I haven't figga'd it out yet.
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flarider wrote:
The US is on an older antiquated cellular system compared to the rest of the world, but we are catching up. Your iPad should be cellular...
The US is on an older antiquated cellular system compared to the rest of the world, but we are catching up.
Your iPad should be cellular compatible overseas, his phone should have been as well. I can only assume he did not buy the data plan for overseas or have international roaming turned on (it is a feature you need ti turn on)
Your unlimited data plan you buy here is not valid overseas, you have to buy a different (and expensive) overseas cellular data plan.
Yeah I see what you mean, he would need a cellular plan in the area he is using it or get killed in fees for being out of network or whatever. Good point.
The need for cell service really depends on the individual use, if we had wifi only I'd just toss the ipad2 in the trash and use my laptop and iPhone.
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Ugh, you dudes have me almost talked out of getting one at all. Blink
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I like my iPad and it goes on every trip now, where before I dragged a laptop.
They work great. Most anywhere he is going to be, will have wifi, right?
That's all that matters.
Don't need a connection to watch TV shows and movies once downloaded.
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flarider wrote:
I like my iPad and it goes on every trip now, where before I dragged a laptop. They work great. Most anywhere he is going to...
I like my iPad and it goes on every trip now, where before I dragged a laptop.
They work great. Most anywhere he is going to be, will have wifi, right?
That's all that matters.
Don't need a connection to watch TV shows and movies once downloaded.
Yeah, that does kinda make sense. Thanks for the insight.
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Racer92 wrote:
Ugh, you dudes have me almost talked out of getting one at all. Blink
Oop sorry, wasn't trying to dissuade you from buying an iPad. I was just trying to say that different people have different needs for things like cell/wifi vs wifi only! We really do like ours and will eventually upgrade to the latest greatest model.
12/11/2012 1:51pm
flarider wrote:
The US is on an older antiquated cellular system compared to the rest of the world, but we are catching up. Your iPad should be cellular...
The US is on an older antiquated cellular system compared to the rest of the world, but we are catching up.
Your iPad should be cellular compatible overseas, his phone should have been as well. I can only assume he did not buy the data plan for overseas or have international roaming turned on (it is a feature you need ti turn on)
Your unlimited data plan you buy here is not valid overseas, you have to buy a different (and expensive) overseas cellular data plan.
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Yeah I see what you mean, he would need a cellular plan in the area he is using it or get killed in fees for being...
Yeah I see what you mean, he would need a cellular plan in the area he is using it or get killed in fees for being out of network or whatever. Good point.
The need for cell service really depends on the individual use, if we had wifi only I'd just toss the ipad2 in the trash and use my laptop and iPhone.
Forget about an overseas data plan or international roaming plan. That shit is crazy expensive, like what would amount to $10 for checking your email. All you have to do is change the sim card to what ever sim card that particular provider in that particular country uses. I've done that on my IPad in Indonesia and Thailand. They also have to cut the card. Anybody at an Apple booth or computer place at a mall will be able to set you up. I think in Indonesia the plan was unlimited for around $19 a month. In Thailand, I simply put a friends sim card in my Ipad and rolled with a plan they had. I've never done a plan or sim card in Japan but I have used Wifi there on the Ipad if that helps you any. Nirita International in Tokyo is one of the few airports that have free wifi. What ever you do, if you stop in Frankfurt, France, Turkey, Singapore or some other place on the way to Japan that does not have free wifi, Do not check your email on a US data plan.
Also, traveling with an IPad sucks unless you are playing a game waiting at a gate. There is so much entertainment on a decent International flight, my Ipad wouldn't even get pulled out of the bag.
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On the large iPads, it's worth getting the cellular. You can get a sim card and data set up local whatever country he's in, it doesn't have to be a domestic cellular provider (which can run up expenses, especially if you don't buy the international plan before going overseas. You can also turn off cellular data and roaming in settings, and then you've got the flexibility to work either way depending on the circumstances.

My oldest is a "genius" at a socal Apple store and also does small device (phone/ipad/ipod) training. There's a ton of flexibility and capability built into them that you can tailor to your uses and circumstances.

The mini is actually a pretty incredible device, but it just depends on what you (he) wants.
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We've had a few iPads in our house for a while now and I've never liked using them.
Just not comfortable to use In my opinion. I wanted to be able to use it like my iPhone
Where I didn't have to take a hand off to type etc.

Then came the iPad mini. Had a play with a demo. Felt good in my hands, so I got one.
Retina display is amazing, Siri actually works, if you're into her..
The thing is really thin, and I can reach everywhere with my thumbs. Then there's iCloud so
Everything is synced to my phone, makes things easy.

I love it, problem is I can hardly put it down when I'm home. It's wifi, is as fast as I need it to be..
If I take it away from home and need the net I just use my iPhone as a personal hotspot.

So my suggestion is to not overlook the mini like some have suggested. It's a great size, the size I think
It should have been all along.
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12/12/2012 7:50am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2012 7:53am
STICKMAN wrote:
We've had a few iPads in our house for a while now and I've never liked using them. Just not comfortable to use In my opinion...
We've had a few iPads in our house for a while now and I've never liked using them.
Just not comfortable to use In my opinion. I wanted to be able to use it like my iPhone
Where I didn't have to take a hand off to type etc.

Then came the iPad mini. Had a play with a demo. Felt good in my hands, so I got one.
Retina display is amazing, Siri actually works, if you're into her..
The thing is really thin, and I can reach everywhere with my thumbs. Then there's iCloud so
Everything is synced to my phone, makes things easy.

I love it, problem is I can hardly put it down when I'm home. It's wifi, is as fast as I need it to be..
If I take it away from home and need the net I just use my iPhone as a personal hotspot.

So my suggestion is to not overlook the mini like some have suggested. It's a great size, the size I think
It should have been all along.
iPad Mini does not have Retina display, in fact, it has the same display specs as the iPad 2.

In all of the reviews I have read, the display is the one thing that they all dislike.
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The display issue on the mini is more about people wanting the retina and it not being there than actual performance or disliking it's performance, really. It's a small screen in any event. The thing is incredibly light and easy enough to pocket, and it functions seamlessly; those were the development priorities, and keeping the price down (right), which is what people really disliked.

But, yeah, it's absence is a compromise and it'll probably be there in the next gen.
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You're welcome.... [img]http://moneysavingqueen.com/images/cache/c5fc6a25dffedf88fea172d3b9291733.jpeg[/img]
You're welcome....

Haha yeah there ya go and that is a lot less money than we spent on our ipad2

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