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Edited Date/Time 9/14/2013 7:16am
My SX-1250 is finally done and on its way back !

I sent my mint 1977 Pioneer SX-1250 (arguably the best built, best looking and best sounding receiver ever made) to one of the best bench-techs in the country to be totally rebuilt & recapped. It was still working perfectly, but anytime you have capacitors +30 years old its just a matter of time before one of them lets go and fries everything in a puff of smoke. Then you go from a procedural rebuild/recap job, to a triage & find what all you fried/smoked job. Here is all that was done. She sounded sweet before being shipped off, cant wait to put my new FM Soundtrack LP on the turntable and pipe it thru the newly redone 1250 ! "No static at all,,,,,, FM !"

Forget the cheap black plastic crap they sell today, THIS is how you shake the sheetrock in your listening room!












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Man, I know you're excited! Excellent test listen album too. But...you do know you could get most, if not all, of the sx line in black also?Cool
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9/12/2013 9:46am
jonjon714 wrote:
Man, I know you're excited! Excellent test listen album too. But...you do know you could get most, if not all, of the sx line in black...
Man, I know you're excited! Excellent test listen album too. But...you do know you could get most, if not all, of the sx line in black also?Cool
Yeah, the 5590 was available overseas, but when given the choice between that and the orginal anodized brushed aluminum and walnut? The 1250 is still the look ALL the others tried to imitate. And far as build quality, component layout, and overall sonic performance, the 1250 still is the best ever made.
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9/12/2013 9:51am
22 pound toroidal transformer baby !

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9/12/2013 9:58am
Boy they don't build em like that anymore do they!!!!

You look at that power rating compared to modern stuff and you think pffff no biggie, but knowing how much mass those babies were driving back then puts it into perspective.

On a related note, I thought this was a Whknuckle sighting. LOL

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9/12/2013 10:00am
Racer92 wrote:
22 pound toroidal transformer baby ! [img]http://www.chrisinmotion.com/Pioneer-SX-1250-offen.jpg[/img]
22 pound toroidal transformer baby !

Nice!

I bought a new Pioneer VSX1023 home theatre receiver for the Dolby TrueHD for BluRays, and I don't think the whole receiver weighs 22 lbs Laughing

My main music system is powered by an old Denon integrated amp, though. No plastic there.
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9/12/2013 10:04am
Sweet looking rig you have there. I still have your BPS Laser Disc. Just need to give me your address and I'll ship it.
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Utrider wrote:
Boy they don't build em like that anymore do they!!!! You look at that power rating compared to modern stuff and you think pffff no biggie...
Boy they don't build em like that anymore do they!!!!

You look at that power rating compared to modern stuff and you think pffff no biggie, but knowing how much mass those babies were driving back then puts it into perspective.

On a related note, I thought this was a Whknuckle sighting. LOL
That new crap doesnt come close. Look at the size of those main 24,000µf 100V caps! Almost the size of beer cans ! That equals mega headroom ! (although most folks wont go anywhere near using it all) I wish I had a set of Klipschorns to audition this rebuild !
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Sweet looking rig you have there. I still have your BPS Laser Disc. Just need to give me your address and I'll ship it.
Shoot me an email ! racer92@wt.net
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9/12/2013 10:09am
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Nice! I bought a new Pioneer VSX1023 home theatre receiver for the Dolby TrueHD for BluRays, and I don't think the whole receiver weighs 22 lbs...
Nice!

I bought a new Pioneer VSX1023 home theatre receiver for the Dolby TrueHD for BluRays, and I don't think the whole receiver weighs 22 lbs Laughing

My main music system is powered by an old Denon integrated amp, though. No plastic there.
The SX-1250 as I recall is about 65lbs all-total.

Denon has made some very good gear in the past !
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9/12/2013 10:12am
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That new crap doesnt come close. Look at the size of those main 24,000µf 100V caps! Almost the size of beer cans ! That equals mega...
That new crap doesnt come close. Look at the size of those main 24,000µf 100V caps! Almost the size of beer cans ! That equals mega headroom ! (although most folks wont go anywhere near using it all) I wish I had a set of Klipschorns to audition this rebuild !
I don't have Klipschorns, but these are my main music system speakers. Klipsch KG5.5's

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9/12/2013 10:17am
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The SX-1250 as I recall is about 65lbs all-total.

Denon has made some very good gear in the past !
My Denon is a PMA900. I found this pic on the web.

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Klipsch + Denon = sonic heaven. Nice stuff you have there.

I used to have a nice set of mid 70s CBR Cornwalls but sold them to a friend. To this day Ive never heard any loudspeaker as smooth as Cornwalls & K-horns. No listener fatigue. Their products further down the ladder are still head-and-shoulders above most everything else in the industry.
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9/12/2013 10:53am
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Klipsch + Denon = sonic heaven. Nice stuff you have there. I used to have a nice set of mid 70s CBR Cornwalls but sold them...
Klipsch + Denon = sonic heaven. Nice stuff you have there.

I used to have a nice set of mid 70s CBR Cornwalls but sold them to a friend. To this day Ive never heard any loudspeaker as smooth as Cornwalls & K-horns. No listener fatigue. Their products further down the ladder are still head-and-shoulders above most everything else in the industry.
We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's.

Then one year we were on vacation and the house got broken into and someone stole them.

I don't remember what Klipsch replaced the KG's with, but we heard them and said 'nope!' and searched high and low to find someone with a new set of the discontinued 5.5's. We found an audio dealer in Texas that had some and had them shipped up.

I've been watching craigslist to try to find a back-up set, because if they go down and can't be fixed, I don't know what I'll do!

Cornwalls would be nice, though!
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We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's. Then one year we were on vacation and the house...
We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's.

Then one year we were on vacation and the house got broken into and someone stole them.

I don't remember what Klipsch replaced the KG's with, but we heard them and said 'nope!' and searched high and low to find someone with a new set of the discontinued 5.5's. We found an audio dealer in Texas that had some and had them shipped up.

I've been watching craigslist to try to find a back-up set, because if they go down and can't be fixed, I don't know what I'll do!

Cornwalls would be nice, though!
Never heard those 5.5s, but would love to. Corns are great, just weigh a TON, have a big footprint, and you really need a pretty decent sized room to truly appreciate what they can do.

Here are the drivers & crossovers from the 'Corns I restored.











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We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's. Then one year we were on vacation and the house...
We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's.

Then one year we were on vacation and the house got broken into and someone stole them.

I don't remember what Klipsch replaced the KG's with, but we heard them and said 'nope!' and searched high and low to find someone with a new set of the discontinued 5.5's. We found an audio dealer in Texas that had some and had them shipped up.

I've been watching craigslist to try to find a back-up set, because if they go down and can't be fixed, I don't know what I'll do!

Cornwalls would be nice, though!
Racer92 wrote:
Never heard those 5.5s, but would love to. Corns are great, just weigh a TON, have a big footprint, and you really need a pretty decent...
Never heard those 5.5s, but would love to. Corns are great, just weigh a TON, have a big footprint, and you really need a pretty decent sized room to truly appreciate what they can do.

Here are the drivers & crossovers from the 'Corns I restored.











Great job, Bobby. They look great!
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That is about 3 hours drive. You looking to get those? Karl & Mike are lots closer to those than I am !
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We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's. Then one year we were on vacation and the house...
We spent a lot of time auditioning speakers but kept coming back to the Klipsch KG5.5's.

Then one year we were on vacation and the house got broken into and someone stole them.

I don't remember what Klipsch replaced the KG's with, but we heard them and said 'nope!' and searched high and low to find someone with a new set of the discontinued 5.5's. We found an audio dealer in Texas that had some and had them shipped up.

I've been watching craigslist to try to find a back-up set, because if they go down and can't be fixed, I don't know what I'll do!

Cornwalls would be nice, though!
Racer92 wrote:
Never heard those 5.5s, but would love to. Corns are great, just weigh a TON, have a big footprint, and you really need a pretty decent...
Never heard those 5.5s, but would love to. Corns are great, just weigh a TON, have a big footprint, and you really need a pretty decent sized room to truly appreciate what they can do.

Here are the drivers & crossovers from the 'Corns I restored.











Why does that look like real wood?



Laughing
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Why does that look like real wood?



Laughing
You lost me Real wood?

The CBR Cornwall is raw birch veneered 3/4" birch plywood. (CBR = Cornwall Birch Raw)
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9/12/2013 12:13pm
I blew my Paradigm sub at my birthday party...totally removed the foam from the cone. I ordered a new one, and found this nice one! Holy cow!!!

Paradigm Sub 2 - 230 pounds - needs 240volts!





Here are my speakers... they sound so awesome...
Paradigm reference Tribute
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Honestly Huck, that kinda gear doesnt do anything for me personally, but glad you are enjoying it. Im sure it sounds great !

Id rather listen to a nice set of ElectroVoice Patricians, Wharfdales or some clean Altec 'Voice of the Theater' enclosures.

But then again, Im a wierdo. Cool
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People use this as their primary equipment to listen to music these days.



They have no idea what they are missing.
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Honestly Huck, that kinda gear doesnt do anything for me personally, but glad you are enjoying it. Im sure it sounds great ! Id rather listen...
Honestly Huck, that kinda gear doesnt do anything for me personally, but glad you are enjoying it. Im sure it sounds great !

Id rather listen to a nice set of ElectroVoice Patricians, Wharfdales or some clean Altec 'Voice of the Theater' enclosures.

But then again, Im a wierdo. Cool
I've looked at your setup a few times...and can't figure out where you put the CD in, connect the iPod, or hook up the pandora?
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I have a pair of Klipsch Tangent 40s in the attic wrapped. Bought them in Europe 25 years ago.

Has 2 eight inch subs in the front and a twelve inch sub in the rear. Incredible sound....

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9/12/2013 12:41pm
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That is about 3 hours drive. You looking to get those? Karl & Mike are lots closer to those than I am !
Naw, I'll keep looking for some nearby. I thought maybe you might want them for your garage Wink
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I've looked at your setup a few times...and can't figure out where you put the CD in, connect the iPod, or hook up the pandora?
I actually put a small CD player on my SPEC rack on those weird occasions I want to listen to a non-analog source. Its stuck in the bottom of the stack,,, not getting used. Wink



As for MP3s? I wouldnt subject my sweet recapped gear to such crap. LOL
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Naw, I'll keep looking for some nearby. I thought maybe you might want them for your garage Wink
Actually I have some HPM-40s on my garage rig driven by a Pioneer SA-7700 amp. :-)
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I actually put a small CD player on my SPEC rack on those weird occasions I want to listen to a non-analog source. Its stuck in...
I actually put a small CD player on my SPEC rack on those weird occasions I want to listen to a non-analog source. Its stuck in the bottom of the stack,,, not getting used. Wink



As for MP3s? I wouldnt subject my sweet recapped gear to such crap. LOL
I got a bad case of rig envy! I know you have a reel-to-reel off to the side somewhere, too.

Love those VU meters!
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I have a pair of Klipsch Tangent 40s in the attic wrapped. Bought them in Europe 25 years ago. Has 2 eight inch subs in the...
I have a pair of Klipsch Tangent 40s in the attic wrapped. Bought them in Europe 25 years ago.

Has 2 eight inch subs in the front and a twelve inch sub in the rear. Incredible sound....

Get those suckers out and rock the house!

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