Fahrenheit 9/11

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Edited Date/Time 2/4/2013 10:37am
Been watching for the 1st time the last few days.

Gotta be honest. It's a pretty big eye opener to how corrupt him and his administration were and just how much we were lied to. Pretty amazing documentary.
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Don't put too much faith in anything Michel Moore says. He has an agenda and knows how to get his and only his point across when presenting "evidence". Not saying it is all lies or anything, just very, very slanted.
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Yeah. I didn't really see much agenda. I saw a guy just telling the truth whether you like Moore or not.

The thing that was heart breaking was seeing so many Iraqi innocent civilians killed and they didn't even do anything. I think that started to wear on the soldiers after a while also. You can't blame regular Iraqi citizens for standing up and fighting after seeing there home and loved ones destroyed. Pretty sad stuff and then to see how many troops we lost also.

The feeling I get from Bush was very corrupt, about money and power, and pretty egotistical. He makes Obama look like a saint.
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All administrations are fucking corrupt.
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I wasn't real into politics back then or really understood what was going on so that's why this documentary caught my interest and it's pretty damn shocking.

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He just lied us into debt. And Benghazi, and Fast and Furious, and the bank bail outs, and Obamacare....

And the lies will continue from that POS.
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All hail Obama for not declaring war on anybody !
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Spahnzuki wrote:
He just lied us into debt. And Benghazi, and Fast and Furious, and the bank bail outs, and Obamacare.... And the lies will continue from that...
He just lied us into debt. And Benghazi, and Fast and Furious, and the bank bail outs, and Obamacare....

And the lies will continue from that POS.
We were in Benghazi since the mid 70's......we have been in the middle east fucking with things we have no business being involved in since the end of WW II.

Fast and Furious was a program created by the Bush Administrations folks, long before Obama was elected.

The bank bailouts also start in the Bush admin.

If you're looking for politicians that don't tell the truth you should look at every single one that is in Washington, instead you're focusing on one guy.....and I wonder why that is?.

Too hard to deal with reality, much easier to point at one guy......"it's his fault!!"
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MR. X wrote:
All hail Obama for not declaring war on anybody !
the rest of the world does,
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Syria comes to mind.
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scott_nz wrote:
the rest of the world does,
Good , then tell the rest of the world while they are swinging from Obamas nut sack to send some money here to help pay for all his bullshit .
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Being on the Left requires a stunning lack of memory.

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Michael Moore is a Fucking Moore'on.
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I wouldn't say that.
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OK then. I would say that.
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jndmx wrote:
We were in Benghazi since the mid 70's......we have been in the middle east fucking with things we have no business being involved in since the...
We were in Benghazi since the mid 70's......we have been in the middle east fucking with things we have no business being involved in since the end of WW II.

Fast and Furious was a program created by the Bush Administrations folks, long before Obama was elected.

The bank bailouts also start in the Bush admin.

If you're looking for politicians that don't tell the truth you should look at every single one that is in Washington, instead you're focusing on one guy.....and I wonder why that is?.

Too hard to deal with reality, much easier to point at one guy......"it's his fault!!"
Fast and Furious was NOT a program created during the Bush admin. Go read some facts before you list absolute BS. Wide Receiver was the program started during the Bush admin and the other country.....Mexico was in on the operation completely different than Fast and Furious where Mexico had no idea and the ATF was "walking guns into Mexico". 300 weapons (according to Holder who belongs in a prison some where) were TRACED during the wide receiver op. Over 2000 weapons were WALKED during Fast and Furious. Oh yeah and the big difference the one that takes the cake is a border patrol agent was killed and 700 yes 700 weapons were found at crime scenes in Mexico that could be traced back to operation Fast and Furious. So get your shit straight before spewing crap.
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purpleNurple wrote:
Fast and Furious was NOT a program created during the Bush admin. Go read some facts before you list absolute BS. Wide Receiver was the program...
Fast and Furious was NOT a program created during the Bush admin. Go read some facts before you list absolute BS. Wide Receiver was the program started during the Bush admin and the other country.....Mexico was in on the operation completely different than Fast and Furious where Mexico had no idea and the ATF was "walking guns into Mexico". 300 weapons (according to Holder who belongs in a prison some where) were TRACED during the wide receiver op. Over 2000 weapons were WALKED during Fast and Furious. Oh yeah and the big difference the one that takes the cake is a border patrol agent was killed and 700 yes 700 weapons were found at crime scenes in Mexico that could be traced back to operation Fast and Furious. So get your shit straight before spewing crap.
The two programs were linked, one begat the other, acting like one guy is more responsible than the other is foolish and shows exactly where your head is.
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Bush, Obama, who gives a fuck? None of the blame lies at the hands of one man or his administration. It takes a lot of people and the federal government as a whole to perform the deeds which have been brought up in this thread. Removing one figurehead and plugging in another will never change the culture of corruption that lies within our government.

Feel free to stand up and fight (bang your head against the wall) for your preferred political party though if you think it'll make a difference.
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I'd believe Michael Moore long before I would Donald Trump.
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Those on the left will always chant the mantra of it doesn't matter which side, when their one sided attempt is thwarted.

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