Czars in Washington

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 4:57pm
So now the republicans have initiated an anti-czar bill to appease the knuckledraggers at home since Glen Beck and company have made a stink about Obama's czars as if this was something that he created. Nevermind that the first known 'czar' goes back to the Nixon whitehouse, and every president since has appointed them.

At last count, Obama has 32 czars.

Where were these guys when Bush appointed 47 czars?

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Well considering the heat that Obama has taken from some of his appointee's it may not be a bad idea to have some extra eyes involved.

Wasn't his responsible for that idiot Van Jones?
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9/17/2009 7:53am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:13am
indy_maico wrote:
So now the republicans have initiated an anti-czar bill to appease the knuckledraggers at home since Glen Beck and company have made a stink about Obama's...
So now the republicans have initiated an anti-czar bill to appease the knuckledraggers at home since Glen Beck and company have made a stink about Obama's czars as if this was something that he created. Nevermind that the first known 'czar' goes back to the Nixon whitehouse, and every president since has appointed them.

At last count, Obama has 32 czars.

Where were these guys when Bush appointed 47 czars?

Nice way to play with numbers.
Why not re-phrase your question to: How many czar positions did bush have compared to obama and what were the differences in responsibilities and authority given to the czars in each administration?
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indy_maico wrote:
So now the republicans have initiated an anti-czar bill to appease the knuckledraggers at home since Glen Beck and company have made a stink about Obama's...
So now the republicans have initiated an anti-czar bill to appease the knuckledraggers at home since Glen Beck and company have made a stink about Obama's czars as if this was something that he created. Nevermind that the first known 'czar' goes back to the Nixon whitehouse, and every president since has appointed them.

At last count, Obama has 32 czars.

Where were these guys when Bush appointed 47 czars?

Where were these guys when Bush appointed 47 czars?


doh!

Guess they were busy tea bagging each other.

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September 15, 2009
The President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

From the beginning of your administration, you have made an admirable commitment to transparency and open government. You showed the strength of your commitment by sending a memorandum to the heads of executive departments and agencies within a week of your inauguration, stating: “My administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and use.”

As you know, there has been much discussion about your decisions to create and assign apparently significant policy-making responsibilities to White House and other executive positions; many of the persons filling these positions have come to be referred to in the media and even within your administration as policy “czars.” I heard firsthand about this issue on several occasions from my constituents in recent town hall meetings in Wisconsin.

The Constitution gives the Senate the duty to oversee the appointment of Executive officers through the Appointments Clause in Article II, section 2. The Appointments Clause states that the President “shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise proved for, and which shall be established by law.” (Emphasis added.) This clause is an important part of the constitutional scheme of separation of powers, empowering the Senate to weigh in on the appropriateness of significant appointments and assisting in its oversight of the Executive Branch.

As a member of the Senate with the duty to oversee executive appointments and as the Chairman of the Senate Constitution Subcommittee, I respectfully urge you to disclose as much information as you can about these policy advisors and “czars.” Specifically, I ask that you identify these individuals’ roles and responsibilities, and provide the judgment(s) of your legal advisors as to whether and how these positions are consistent with the Appointments Clause. I hope that this information will help address some of the concerns that have been raised about new positions in the White House and elsewhere in the Executive Branch, and will inform any hearing that the Subcommittee holds on this topic.

Thank you for considering my views on this important matter. I very much appreciate your commitment to transparency and open government and look forward to your prompt response.

Sincerely,

Russell D. Feingold
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What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks?

From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and he has 46 un-vetted czars.
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Time for some CHANGE.

czars is just another way of taking care of his buddies.
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks? From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and...
What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks?

From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and he has 46 un-vetted czars.
and BO will say theres no earmarks..another lie

maybe furman was right about some people lying
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Why don't we just get it over with and impeach him, hand the administration over to the Joe Wilson types and require mandatory Christianity led by that asshole in AZ that was preaching against President Obama.
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fcr wrote:
Why don't we just get it over with and impeach him, hand the administration over to the Joe Wilson types and require mandatory Christianity led by...
Why don't we just get it over with and impeach him, hand the administration over to the Joe Wilson types and require mandatory Christianity led by that asshole in AZ that was preaching against President Obama.
silence haole boy
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks? From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and...
What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks?

From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and he has 46 un-vetted czars.
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fcr wrote:
Why don't we just get it over with and impeach him, hand the administration over to the Joe Wilson types and require mandatory Christianity led by...
Why don't we just get it over with and impeach him, hand the administration over to the Joe Wilson types and require mandatory Christianity led by that asshole in AZ that was preaching against President Obama.
09450f wrote:
silence haole boy
What are you doing awake, aren't the geckos still chirping ? Besides the welfare office isn't open till 10 .
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Why doesnt he hold himself to the same standards he expects everyone else to be held to....


He's above the law now..
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9/17/2009 9:36am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:13am
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks? From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and...
What happened to the campaign promise about having no lobbyists, and earmarks?

From what I gather the first bill he signed had 9,000 porky earmarks, and he has 46 un-vetted czars.
indy_maico wrote:
Ah, right you are...Or would "correct" be more comfortable for you? Wink

"I Karl Williams do hereby retract my last statement about the number of czars that President Obama has hired, and replace the 46 with 35."


Thank you.
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You guys freaking out about "czars" are just looking for anything to whine about. What's the matter with you guys?
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Nerd wrote:
You guys freaking out about "czars" are just looking for anything to whine about. What's the matter with you guys?
Welcome back!
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9/17/2009 9:57am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:13am
God forbid people who know their shit or have leadership abilities on a subject get involved....that's terrible



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Nerd wrote:
You guys freaking out about "czars" are just looking for anything to whine about. What's the matter with you guys?
Glen Beck and Rush told them to freak out, otherwise there would be no 'Anti-Czar' bill being drafted.
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Apparently you can't be too extreme for Obama's inner circle unless the public finds out about your views.
I wonder if there's any more room under the bus.......?


`ol Ger

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9/17/2009 10:09am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2009 10:45am
Nerd wrote:
You guys freaking out about "czars" are just looking for anything to whine about. What's the matter with you guys?
indy_maico wrote:
Glen Beck and Rush told them to freak out, otherwise there would be no 'Anti-Czar' bill being drafted.
So who told "them" to freak out about speaking out about the President irrespective of it's accuracy? Was it that *woman* on NPR?

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So who told "them" to freak out about speaking out about the President irrespective of it's accuracy? Was it that *woman* on NPR?

*edit
Who's the lesbian on NPR, and what's wrong with lesbians?
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Nerd wrote:
You guys freaking out about "czars" are just looking for anything to whine about. What's the matter with you guys?
indy_maico wrote:
Glen Beck and Rush told them to freak out, otherwise there would be no 'Anti-Czar' bill being drafted.
Without them freaking out, we would have a public option of some sort (even just pay to play) in the healthcare bill, but instead we get this convoluted BS that's going to help no one.

Thanks, irrational Republicans!
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Nerd wrote:
You guys freaking out about "czars" are just looking for anything to whine about. What's the matter with you guys?
indy_maico wrote:
Glen Beck and Rush told them to freak out, otherwise there would be no 'Anti-Czar' bill being drafted.
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
So who told "them" to freak out about speaking out about the President irrespective of it's accuracy? Was it that *woman* on NPR?

*edit
That term isn't acceptable.
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Why pick on Rush and Glenn?

They have a large base of listeners, because they do a good job. Are they over the top? Yes. Do they believe in what they preach. I think they do.. Do I agree with everything they say? Nope.

They are no different than the politicians each of us stick up for, or fight against. They are different from the more liberal talk show hosts. For some reason the base of listeners for them don't seem to hang on.

Yes, everyone can come back and say how these two or three conservative hosts lie, cheat and steal all the information they fling out. Bottom line, they have the same or better documentation of how they arrived at their conclusions just as our politicall leaders have. Some times the talk shows offer more and better detail, as well as making it easier to understand for the "regular" person.

What ever people believe to be true, the end results normally speak for themselves. Who's got the correct outcomes more often??
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Why pick on Rush and Glenn? They have a large base of listeners, because they do a good job. Are they over the top? Yes. Do...
Why pick on Rush and Glenn?

They have a large base of listeners, because they do a good job. Are they over the top? Yes. Do they believe in what they preach. I think they do.. Do I agree with everything they say? Nope.

They are no different than the politicians each of us stick up for, or fight against. They are different from the more liberal talk show hosts. For some reason the base of listeners for them don't seem to hang on.

Yes, everyone can come back and say how these two or three conservative hosts lie, cheat and steal all the information they fling out. Bottom line, they have the same or better documentation of how they arrived at their conclusions just as our politicall leaders have. Some times the talk shows offer more and better detail, as well as making it easier to understand for the "regular" person.

What ever people believe to be true, the end results normally speak for themselves. Who's got the correct outcomes more often??
Not them.
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I tried to watch GB turn a building into a commie plot, and Rush is all about hate. Remember the lady who asked McCain or said he is an Arab? I wonder what % of their listeners are like that.
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Nerd wrote:
That term isn't acceptable.
Sorry.


Indy, I was referring to the lovely Miss Rachel Maddow. I can't at the moment confirm her sexual preferences, but as a betting man, I've got a cold beer that says she likes girls.
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She is a Lesbian.
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Sorry. Indy, I was referring to the lovely Miss Rachel Maddow. I can't at the moment confirm her sexual preferences, but as a betting man, I've...
Sorry.


Indy, I was referring to the lovely Miss Rachel Maddow. I can't at the moment confirm her sexual preferences, but as a betting man, I've got a cold beer that says she likes girls.
Oh, OK.
She us a confirmed lesbian, and she isn't on NPR to my knowledge. She's on MSNBC.

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