mx des nations 2021

mirramaxx
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So Gypsy Tales pod cast came up on my you tube feed. I have only watched a hand full of them. This was interesting how Todd Waters breaks the strategy all down. Jett going 1-1

If J-Coop is on the team for USA, then mix in a front runner from the MXGP side. This will be such a crazy good race ! Not sure if anyone saw this or made a post about it but it was REALLY cool visualizing what Todd was explaining.

Cheers Vital Village !
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Unpopular Opinion: The race should be shelved for another year.
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mirramaxx
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8/6/2021 12:20pm Edited Date/Time 8/6/2021 12:21pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Unpopular Opinion: The race should be shelved for another year.
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
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mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the excitement from the event.

I guess we'll see.
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mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the...
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the excitement from the event.

I guess we'll see.
And the ones that do go are most likely not going to risk much
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8/6/2021 1:27pm
… and yet… when one of the US riders has better shit to do…
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8/6/2021 1:48pm
mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
Canada would be a heavy favorite??
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8/6/2021 2:27pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Unpopular Opinion: The race should be shelved for another year.
mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
France disagrees
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mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the...
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the excitement from the event.

I guess we'll see.
It’ll take some excitement away. But shelving the race will take away all of the excitement.
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mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the...
Just thinking some of the MXGP regulars will skip the race since it's in the middle of their championship. IMO, that takes away some of the excitement from the event.

I guess we'll see.
Better to go forward with it then go two years without it…but then I’m old school and think the MXDN is the pinnacle of the sport…We are missing top riders every year and this year will be no different
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DPR250R wrote:
… and yet… when one of the US riders has better shit to do…
I thought the same thing, I’m sure there will be some * talk.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Unpopular Opinion: The race should be shelved for another year.
I can see your reasoning for it, but next year there will be reasons why our top guys cant go or dont want to go. The timing is never gonna work out well for americans and euros both it seems. Thats a shame.
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DPR250R wrote:
… and yet… when one of the US riders has better shit to do…
The American riders don't have it in the middle of their championship. Missing the race for the Monster Energy Cup and three-months-prior SX testing is not the same thing.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Unpopular Opinion: The race should be shelved for another year.
Ranman68 wrote:
I can see your reasoning for it, but next year there will be reasons why our top guys cant go or dont want to go. The...
I can see your reasoning for it, but next year there will be reasons why our top guys cant go or dont want to go. The timing is never gonna work out well for americans and euros both it seems. Thats a shame.
It's not just his reasoning, it's unpopular with the GP riders as it falls in the middle of their season. Just as it would be unpopular with US riders if it was held in the middle of theirs. MXoN only works because it's an end of season race and it won't work unless it is.
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mirramaxx wrote:
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !) I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf...
We got down voted bro ! lol (down voters use 3-4 fingers to clutch !)

I'm not die hard "the race must happen!' but why shelf it ?
Hell a Supercross DES nations would be Dope also ! AUS CAN USA would be heavy favs but anything could happen!
kardy wrote:
Canada would be a heavy favorite??
I laughed too
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With the top 10 GP guys possibly not racing USA could have a walk in the park this year. But I feel the GP guys will go nfg about season points and show up for their country regardless.
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8/8/2021 6:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/9/2021 6:36am
Is Hampshire riding the 450 for Des Nations? Deano's new video had training videos of RJ on what sounded like a 450.
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visser62 wrote:
The American riders don't have it in the middle of their championship. Missing the race for the Monster Energy Cup and three-months-prior SX testing is not...
The American riders don't have it in the middle of their championship. Missing the race for the Monster Energy Cup and three-months-prior SX testing is not the same thing.
Correct, it’s not the same. For better or worse the SX series is the premier one here in the States. There’s only MX for the MXGP competitors.

Having the MXdN in the middle of the only season for MXGP racers isn’t really an option for those contending for the title.
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8/11/2021 11:11pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Unpopular Opinion: The race should be shelved for another year.
Ranman68 wrote:
I can see your reasoning for it, but next year there will be reasons why our top guys cant go or dont want to go. The...
I can see your reasoning for it, but next year there will be reasons why our top guys cant go or dont want to go. The timing is never gonna work out well for americans and euros both it seems. Thats a shame.
Elliot wrote:
It's not just his reasoning, it's unpopular with the GP riders as it falls in the middle of their season. Just as it would be unpopular...
It's not just his reasoning, it's unpopular with the GP riders as it falls in the middle of their season. Just as it would be unpopular with US riders if it was held in the middle of theirs. MXoN only works because it's an end of season race and it won't work unless it is.
Yes I'm aware of everything you said. I assumed those were at least some of the reasons Maverick said what he did. I know all this, but even if it's held at the end of the GP season, it's not great timing for U.S. riders as they have several weeks of waiting after the last outdoor national, and its hard to maintain full race fitness unless you are racing consistently. Additionally, supercross season is right around the corner, and teams priorities supercross, so the riders are under pressure to prepare for supercross. Not the mxon or outdoor skills. Theres also the monster cup. The top Monster backed riders are under pressure to race it and do well. The timing of the mxon isnt optimum for everyone no matter what, so i dont see why we should scrap it for another year. That was my point. I am fully aware that it is not good timing for GP riders this year, and im aware of why.
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