New AMA Rules

This past weekend at Lake Whitney would've been the first time anyone could've ran the 250cc 2-strokes against the 250cc 4 strokes. The Winter AM series in FL was completely based on the 2007 rules, so no one was able to take advantage of it.

I haven't heard of anyone from the Whitney LLQ running them, but surely we will see quite a few people at the Spring National aboard the smoker.

This past weekend we went to a District 13 race at Elizabeth City, NC. The winner of the 250 Expert class was on a CR250. The rest of the riders were on 250F's.

We'll be at Whitney on a 2 smoker.

[quote="MXDAD128":24nftfly]We'll be at Whitney on a 2 smoker.[/quote:24nftfly]Bring your lap top and keep us posted will ya and good luck.

At the first round of the ultra series there were quite a few out there. From what I hear from people there will be lots more.

check my post out : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=50473

I heard from a source that the OEMs that are still producing 250cc 2strokes wanted the AMA to pass the law so they could move the rest of the strokers they have left outta the warehouses and that the rules WILL BE changed next year(2009).

I personally do not see the rule sticking around long.

I guess that would proove the whole process and if they do force a change well guess that says something in its' self.

All they have to do is stop making the 2 stroke all together and the rules won't matter. i don't think the rules will change unless you see a complete domination by the 2 strokes, which would be surprising. Was this track a sand track? if so that answers a lot of questions.

[quote="rocrac":1aqt5jzm][quote="MXDAD128":1aqt5jzm]We'll be at Whitney on a 2 smoker.[/quote:1aqt5jzm]Bring your lap top and keep us posted will ya and good luck.[/quote:1aqt5jzm]

I'll post some results when he calls me.I won't be able to attend Whitney or Oak Hill.He will be traveling with a couple of other riders.Hopefully he'll get better results than he did in Gainesville.

I think the real Rule change that is going to make a difference in our sport is being overlooked here.

The AMA is trying a back handed way to eliminate the 450's.

I am talking about the changes that made all the classes that used to be "450" (or Motocross) into 125-open classes.

Those that have been around the sport for a while have seen this before when the classes were made into 250/open classes back in the late 80's.

It sealed the fate of the 500's.

It basically makes the 450 class another unlimited/collegeboy class. While a very small number of riders may run it as a third class at some events it will actually siphon entries off of the existing "open" classes.

As 250F and two stroke riders start to ride this class and do well it will make the 450's obsolete except for large riders and/or vets.

Watch your local races that run by these rules and see if the number of 450 riders doesn't drop.

450 sales will soon follow.

Then the AMA will use this data to make their case to the OEMs to drop the 450 machines.

Come back in two years and tell me I was right.

[quote="JustMX":3tyl2so4]I think the real Rule change that is going to make a difference in our sport is being overlooked here.

The AMA is trying a back handed way to eliminate the 450's.

I am talking about the changes that made all the classes that used to be "450" (or Motocross) into 125-open classes.

Those that have been around the sport for a while have seen this before when the classes were made into 250/open classes back in the late 80's.

It sealed the fate of the 500's.

It basically makes the 450 class another unlimited/collegeboy class. While a very small number of riders may run it as a third class at some events it will actually siphon entries off of the existing "open" classes.

As 250F and two stroke riders start to ride this class and do well it will make the 450's obsolete except for large riders and/or vets.

Watch your local races that run by these rules and see if the number of 450 riders doesn't drop.

450 sales will soon follow.

Then the AMA will use this data to make their case to the OEMs to drop the 450 machines.

Come back in two years and tell me I was right.[/quote:3tyl2so4]Maybe your right but I can't help but think the damage has already been done to the 2 strokes. My guess is Johnny Rocket on his factory 250f will get beat by Joey privateer on his 250t one to many times this year and the bitching will begin. Lets face it we all know who controls this sport both pro and amateur and I wouldn't be suprised to see the rules right back to where they were 250f and 450f.

450 sales have never been as good as the 250F sales.

Ken lets see how fast they come back with a rule change in 08 fall, and see what the mood is. I think your right on the 450, but then we have told them it's an "Open" bike all along! Course we don't know squat.

Sand tracks, muddy tracks likely have a 2t slight advantage no one ever questioned that, but hard pack like we have around here 90% of the time is right up a 4 strokes proverbial alley. Not to mention I only know of like 5 guys that went out and bought smokers. LOL i talk to aroun 1500 riders yearly..... so far i haven't seen a big switch.