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David, Thanks for having the courage. Do they come in kids sizes? If we get the kids to wear them from Day 1 they won't ride without one. Ken Bach (In 1983 or 84 at High Point I was the yellow flagman before the triple behind the starting gate. When you were running down Glover and jumped that thing you blew my mind. It took every thing I had to jump the double. On that day I knew I would never turn pro. Thanks for the wakeup then and now.)