JS7's CRASH

Lifesarutt64
Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:29am
Watching the crash on TV & utube, it looked like he wheelied up the face of the jump (take off) without his front tyre ever hitting the face of the jump, was he doing this every lap?

It wouldn't surprise me if he took the championship from here, he just has to calm down & focus
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I think he has some sort of tunnel vision/focus thing, that is why he crashes into other riders & loses focus on the obstacles that don't test him.

I'm glad he is on the Yamaha, IMHO it brings him back to the field (other riders)

JS7 is not my favourite rider, but I thought that was a truly inspirational ride.

When do the medics stop someone going back out on the track because he could pose a danger to himself & or others, when JS7 fell backwards when trying to remount his bike, IMO they should have stopped him getting back on the track.
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hardeight 3/6/2011 5:21am
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I agree that the medics probably should not have let him back on the track. we will probably find out that he has a concussion now. if so he might not be cleared to race Indy. we will see.

We also saw he is still willing to ride over his head to win,even if he crashes. I guess he will never figure out that it is usually not beneficial to ride as such. I would have loved to see him ride within himself, as then their would have been a race for the lead between him and Villopoto.

I think we also see who the 2011 champ is going to be.

If stewart slows it down a bit the racing should be great every week. If he doesnt he will end up like Muhammed Ali. Maybe someone should point that out to him.
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GuyB 3/6/2011 5:23am
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Did you notice that he snagged his foot on the rear fender that was sticking up at an unusual angle?
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GuyB wrote:
Did you notice that he snagged his foot on the rear fender that was sticking up at an unusual angle?
I also noticed two guys holding him and the bike upright. He was pretty wobbly and might not have been able to steady himself or the bike to remount. It turned out well for James but the medics, potentially, could have caused more harm by helping him.
Lifesarutt64 3/6/2011 5:49am
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GuyB wrote:
Did you notice that he snagged his foot on the rear fender that was sticking up at an unusual angle?
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy.
The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back out there" & the Asterisk crew where like "it's ok, he's James FREAKING Steward!!!
Just my opinion, can you ask any of the riders what they think GuyB
Don't get me wrong I was unbelievably impressed by JS7's ride after he crashed & those points he got may prove to be very valuable!!

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Hank_Thrill 3/6/2011 6:22am
3/6/2011 6:22am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2011 6:24am
GuyB wrote:
Did you notice that he snagged his foot on the rear fender that was sticking up at an unusual angle?
Lifesarutt64 wrote:
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy. The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back...
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy.
The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back out there" & the Asterisk crew where like "it's ok, he's James FREAKING Steward!!!
Just my opinion, can you ask any of the riders what they think GuyB
Don't get me wrong I was unbelievably impressed by JS7's ride after he crashed & those points he got may prove to be very valuable!!
Yeah, I thought it was odd how Asterisks is usually "preventing racers" from racing when they are concussed, yet one of the Asterisk crew members (one of the left) was holding his bike up while rapidly patting his seat with his hand, as if to say to James, "Get back out there and go!"

You know that guy is a huge Stewart fan if he's blowing off years training to ignore assessing a guy who obviously has a mild concussion. His behavior and conduct (e.g., motor reflexes) definitely would have been assessed by any serious professional in a different context (not during a race). Had those guys not helped him back on the bike, it probably would have taken him possibly up to another minute to remount.

For those who believe he wasn't concussed due to the way he was riding after the wreck, do some research on implicit memory.
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kongols 3/6/2011 6:25am
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GuyB wrote:
Did you notice that he snagged his foot on the rear fender that was sticking up at an unusual angle?
Lifesarutt64 wrote:
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy. The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back...
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy.
The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back out there" & the Asterisk crew where like "it's ok, he's James FREAKING Steward!!!
Just my opinion, can you ask any of the riders what they think GuyB
Don't get me wrong I was unbelievably impressed by JS7's ride after he crashed & those points he got may prove to be very valuable!!
Hank_Thrill wrote:
Yeah, I thought it was odd how Asterisks is usually "preventing racers" from racing when they are concussed, [b]yet one of the Asterisk crew members (one...
Yeah, I thought it was odd how Asterisks is usually "preventing racers" from racing when they are concussed, yet one of the Asterisk crew members (one of the left) was holding his bike up while rapidly patting his seat with his hand, as if to say to James, "Get back out there and go!"

You know that guy is a huge Stewart fan if he's blowing off years training to ignore assessing a guy who obviously has a mild concussion. His behavior and conduct (e.g., motor reflexes) definitely would have been assessed by any serious professional in a different context (not during a race). Had those guys not helped him back on the bike, it probably would have taken him possibly up to another minute to remount.

For those who believe he wasn't concussed due to the way he was riding after the wreck, do some research on implicit memory.
Dude you`re going on thread tour with this stuff. What does ever changing , multiple line supercross race has to do with piano playing.
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Stephon 3/6/2011 6:28am
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Of course he was dazed; like a boxer getting hit on top of his head. Nobody was home upstairs for a moment. i think his body just had a natural reaction to get up and try to keep going. It seemed like by the time he actually got the bike started again he was much, much more alert than just 15-seconds before. I cringed when he entered the track "Travis Preston incident" style. It also seemed that the medics weren't sure about what call to make. Who wants to be the one to say, "Sorry James, your night is over?" An amazing effort by James that could have gone really bad.

Wow, how are the 10 or so guys that he passed feeling?
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Hank_Thrill 3/6/2011 6:29am
3/6/2011 6:29am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2011 6:30am
Lifesarutt64 wrote:
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy. The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back...
Yep, but you have to admit he did look hazy.
The Daytona crew where looking at him like," you can't be serious is he going back out there" & the Asterisk crew where like "it's ok, he's James FREAKING Steward!!!
Just my opinion, can you ask any of the riders what they think GuyB
Don't get me wrong I was unbelievably impressed by JS7's ride after he crashed & those points he got may prove to be very valuable!!
Hank_Thrill wrote:
Yeah, I thought it was odd how Asterisks is usually "preventing racers" from racing when they are concussed, [b]yet one of the Asterisk crew members (one...
Yeah, I thought it was odd how Asterisks is usually "preventing racers" from racing when they are concussed, yet one of the Asterisk crew members (one of the left) was holding his bike up while rapidly patting his seat with his hand, as if to say to James, "Get back out there and go!"

You know that guy is a huge Stewart fan if he's blowing off years training to ignore assessing a guy who obviously has a mild concussion. His behavior and conduct (e.g., motor reflexes) definitely would have been assessed by any serious professional in a different context (not during a race). Had those guys not helped him back on the bike, it probably would have taken him possibly up to another minute to remount.

For those who believe he wasn't concussed due to the way he was riding after the wreck, do some research on implicit memory.
kongols wrote:
Dude you`re going on thread tour with this stuff. What does ever changing , multiple line supercross race has to do with piano playing.
the piano playing was an example of implicit memory; the same type of memory that allows athletes like James to ride the way he rode last night after suffering a mild concussion. It's also the same type of memory that allows him to miss 3/4th of year and hop back on a bike without missing a beat, from the perspective of the average weekend warrior.
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Drfletcher 3/6/2011 6:39am
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He looked fine after a couple of laps to get the cob webs out. At first when he fell down, I thought he was done but he looked fine after a lap or two. That was huge to get back up to ninth place.
mikeylikesit 3/6/2011 8:46am
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Is it possible the medics while helping him, could have simply asked what day it was or where are you and got the right answer? That's why there was no concern for him re-entering the track?
I don't think he was even slightly fuzzy after the crash. Just pissed off and stunned.
Worries me that one day soon, we might all watch his last crash on T.V. though.
He's made quite a few withdrawals from the luck bank.

Damn impressive comeback though!
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kongols 3/6/2011 8:53am
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
the piano playing was an example of implicit memory; the same type of memory that allows athletes like James to ride the way he rode last...
the piano playing was an example of implicit memory; the same type of memory that allows athletes like James to ride the way he rode last night after suffering a mild concussion. It's also the same type of memory that allows him to miss 3/4th of year and hop back on a bike without missing a beat, from the perspective of the average weekend warrior.
I would agree if that was his way home from work that he`s taken for past 20 years every day, but supercross track that he rode only 20 laps prior to the crash? I don`t find it believable.
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mt798 3/6/2011 9:49am
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
the piano playing was an example of implicit memory; the same type of memory that allows athletes like James to ride the way he rode last...
the piano playing was an example of implicit memory; the same type of memory that allows athletes like James to ride the way he rode last night after suffering a mild concussion. It's also the same type of memory that allows him to miss 3/4th of year and hop back on a bike without missing a beat, from the perspective of the average weekend warrior.
kongols wrote:
I would agree if that was his way home from work that he`s taken for past 20 years every day, but supercross track that he rode...
I would agree if that was his way home from work that he`s taken for past 20 years every day, but supercross track that he rode only 20 laps prior to the crash? I don`t find it believable.
I got knocked out at Oak Hill several years ago in a race during the first couple of laps in a 15 minute moto. My friends told me that I laid in the middle of the track till the medics got to me and rolled me over. Then they told me that I jumped up yelling "where's my bike, start my bike" at the top of my lungs. One of my friends started my bike and I took off like I was going to win the race. My mom told me that I actually pulled over by the fence where she always watched and told her I was OK, then I took off again! I finished that moto, went to my truck and put my bike on the stand, took off my gear and sat in my truck. Then I regained consciousness! It was like all of a sudden I was coming out of a dark tunnel, light came in and I regained coherent vision and awareness and I was like WTF? My bike was mangled and I started asking my riding partner what happened, over and over again. I went and asked my mom what happened, over and over again. I could never remember what happened! Nothing! I remember starting the race and that was it. I could never recall my crash, talking to my mom, or finishing the race!

I'm sure I had a severe concussion but we just didn't think of things back then like we do now. I was even ignorant enough to race my second moto that day! I should have been in the hospital for evaluation if anything.

Stewart could very well have done what he did and not remember any of it. The incident last night needs to be reviewed by the medical experts, as in Doctors involved with SX and MX and decide how they will handle a situation such as this in the future. I'd like to know if Stewart was evaluated after the race and if he will seek any medical advice at all?

Carry on though, some of you are very entertaining...

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