Daniel Blair update...and a way to help out

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 2:54am
February 7, 2011- Popular Supercross privateer, Daniel Blair, suffered a
horrendous crash this past weekend during the first practice at the Monster
Energy Supercross at Angel Stadium.

Daniel came up short on one of the tracks triples and fractured his L4 and
L5 vertebrae upon impact, as well as breaking his femur. Daniel has been in
the ICU unit at UC Irvine Medical center, where he underwent a successful
operation to set his femur.

A decision has not yet been made on his back as they weigh out options of
transporting him back home to Northern California for further evaluation.

Daniel's wife and 10- month old son have come down to be with him. Since he
will be bed-ridden for the next 6 weeks, their family has no source of
income.

A paypal account has been set up to help Daniel and his family. If you are
in a position to donate anything, please got to
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=9J…
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2/8/2011 11:15pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2011 7:50am
Thanks GuyB. And I don't know nor have I ever met Daniel Blair. Please donate if you can, everyone.
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2/9/2011 1:01am
Just a bad deal all around. I'd talked to Daniel for a few minutes just before he headed out onto the track. I knew about the broken femur afterward, but didn't hear about the back injury until the next day.
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2/9/2011 1:41pm
Some of you are gonna bitch slap me for this but I have a point about being a responsible adult/parent and rider. Professional Motorcycle Racer gets hurt and has no source of income = IRRESPONSIBLY husband and father.

Dam it - feld motorsports, ama, fim and the industry should find a way to help financially protect the licensed pro rider participating in ama sanctioned national events. Its total nonsense that these riders are not offered better benefits packages.

Yep pie in the sky and grandiose ideas indeed!!!!
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2/9/2011 2:35pm
Why could nt some type of insurance be included when the rider signs up and pays their fees?, if you want more health coverage, pay more entry fee? I still find it amazing at this level these guys have to pay to race! Tell Kobe he has to pay to play a NBA game and see what happens LOL!

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2/9/2011 6:03pm
JACK_Schit wrote:
Some of you are gonna bitch slap me for this but I have a point about being a responsible adult/parent and rider. Professional Motorcycle Racer gets...
Some of you are gonna bitch slap me for this but I have a point about being a responsible adult/parent and rider. Professional Motorcycle Racer gets hurt and has no source of income = IRRESPONSIBLY husband and father.

Dam it - feld motorsports, ama, fim and the industry should find a way to help financially protect the licensed pro rider participating in ama sanctioned national events. Its total nonsense that these riders are not offered better benefits packages.

Yep pie in the sky and grandiose ideas indeed!!!!
Way to beat a man with a stick when he's already down. Obviously Daniel is in no way a irresonsible father and husband. Low blow my friend.
2/9/2011 9:26pm
Sent a message out on our facebook page with the pay pal link for ol Daniel B. Hopefully it will get him a little extra help. Wishing him a speedy recovery!

www.facebook.com/strungout
2/9/2011 10:43pm
I'm not sure if he is a California resident but if he is or could become one in a huge hurry(MediCAL) they will cover a large part (or all) of the hospital bills for un or underinsured Californina residents. I unfortunately learned this after it was too late and my insurance co cut me off $65,000 short of my total bill owed to Riverside County Med center. I am now on the payment plan for the rest of my life with Riverside because I am an Oregon resident and MediCal would not help me. Regence Blue Cross boned me by pulling a technicality. Let his wife know not to take anything for granted with the health coverage, if he has any kind of coverage make sure the hospital is "in network" or they will go after you for the money.Ask lots of questions and ask for a case worker immediately(they will provide one) I spoke with a representative with the Oregon medical board and he warned me if I thought about not paying my bill that he has seen many times California get Very agressive collecting from out of state residents. He basically said California will infact force you in to bankruptcy if you don't pay them. I don't mind paying for the service but it's probably enough to put one of my three kids through college.

Good luck Daniel get well soon.
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2/10/2011 10:37am
Jack Schit, as much as some of you won't agree, makes a good point. Why is it these racers, who full well know the risks in racing, do not have themselves covered with adequate medical insurance when they sign up to race?

They don't have a problem with spending tens of thousands of dollars on race bikes, airfare to races, and tattoos so they can look cool do they? No.

And for a guy to be married AND have a kid and be out there racing? There's really no excuse for it (the health insurance). And don't give me the "Health insurance is really expensive" shit either. Because if that's the case, he should have stayed home and gotten himself a real job.

Some of you guys go over to non-moto and yell and scream and throw fits about Obama and socialism and whatnot, but as soon as shit like this happens, y'all are the first to brow beat anyone who questions the situation and wonders why everyone's not hopping onto their paypal accounts and throwing money at a guy who raced with inadequate coverage (and don't get me started on the privateers who log in here with one hand on the keyboard and the other stuck out begging for gas money).

Maybe he can sell his race bike and practice bike and get on a payment plan like a regular Joe would have to do.
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Does he or his wife have any type of health coverage? My coverage covered about 85% of my medical bills and i pay the rest out of my pocket! They will let you arrange a payment plan. Nobody wants to pay the premiums, but then when they need it ,the bills are very expensive. Its like owning a mx bike with no insurance, better to have insurance no matter what!
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Spinner wrote:
Jack Schit, as much as some of you won't agree, makes a good point. Why is it these racers, who full well know the risks in...
Jack Schit, as much as some of you won't agree, makes a good point. Why is it these racers, who full well know the risks in racing, do not have themselves covered with adequate medical insurance when they sign up to race?

They don't have a problem with spending tens of thousands of dollars on race bikes, airfare to races, and tattoos so they can look cool do they? No.

And for a guy to be married AND have a kid and be out there racing? There's really no excuse for it (the health insurance). And don't give me the "Health insurance is really expensive" shit either. Because if that's the case, he should have stayed home and gotten himself a real job.

Some of you guys go over to non-moto and yell and scream and throw fits about Obama and socialism and whatnot, but as soon as shit like this happens, y'all are the first to brow beat anyone who questions the situation and wonders why everyone's not hopping onto their paypal accounts and throwing money at a guy who raced with inadequate coverage (and don't get me started on the privateers who log in here with one hand on the keyboard and the other stuck out begging for gas money).

Maybe he can sell his race bike and practice bike and get on a payment plan like a regular Joe would have to do.
It sucks for Daniel and his family....... But its hard to disagree with spinner.


This isn't about just Daniel Blair, its about all the guys that are in the same situation if they get hurt.
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Sucks for sure, mx rider or a human being, Its not good when any one gets hurt or really sick, I know quite a few people who don t have insurance and rolling the dice on a medical emergency. If you don t have insurance they will work with you and get a payment plan going. As long as you pay something a month they won t bother you. And if anyone has a family, spouse, kids IMO its cheaper in the long run to have health insurance. The bill won t go away!, If you have to sell some stuff to pay off your debts, so be it, it can be replaced. Look for employment with good benefits. Each person s scenario is different.
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GuyB wrote:
February 7, 2011- Popular Supercross privateer, Daniel Blair, suffered a horrendous crash this past weekend during the first practice at the Monster Energy Supercross at Angel...
February 7, 2011- Popular Supercross privateer, Daniel Blair, suffered a
horrendous crash this past weekend during the first practice at the Monster
Energy Supercross at Angel Stadium.

Daniel came up short on one of the tracks triples and fractured his L4 and
L5 vertebrae upon impact, as well as breaking his femur. Daniel has been in
the ICU unit at UC Irvine Medical center, where he underwent a successful
operation to set his femur.

A decision has not yet been made on his back as they weigh out options of
transporting him back home to Northern California for further evaluation.

Daniel's wife and 10- month old son have come down to be with him. Since he
will be bed-ridden for the next 6 weeks, their family has no source of
income.

A paypal account has been set up to help Daniel and his family. If you are
in a position to donate anything, please got to
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=9J…
Where does it say he does not have health insurance? The request is for some help due to a lack of income. Obviously the guy can't work while he is hurt.
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2/10/2011 3:00pm
thatdad wrote:
Where does it say he does not have health insurance? The request is for some help due to a lack of income. Obviously the guy can't...
Where does it say he does not have health insurance? The request is for some help due to a lack of income. Obviously the guy can't work while he is hurt.
I never said that.
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thatdad wrote:
Where does it say he does not have health insurance? The request is for some help due to a lack of income. Obviously the guy can't...
Where does it say he does not have health insurance? The request is for some help due to a lack of income. Obviously the guy can't work while he is hurt.
GuyB wrote:
I never said that.
Thats my point. Why the rant (not you, the later posts) about the guy being irresponsible. He got hurt, he has a kid to feed and needs help.
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2/10/2011 3:26pm
1st off...

A SHOUT-OUT to Eric Nye for "Being There"...for sittin' in that waiting room all day into the nite and being there for his friend. I was there...at UCI E-Ward. Eric jus' waited and hoped...and waited. No complaints, jus' a positive attitude.

A true freind.

Then there's those of you wanna make your points about irresponsibility: Save it. May this NEVER happen to ANYONE you know. Ever. WITH or WITHOUT Insurance.

We at CDG are in.

...& Guy, thank you for keepin' this in the front of our hearts and minds.


Daniel, you are in our thoughts and prayers
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2/10/2011 6:01pm Edited Date/Time 2/11/2011 12:35pm
Off course not everyone was gonna agree with my post. I respect the opinion of those who disagree.If any of you have objections about the content of my post... sorry about that,

If the people behind the scenes helping Daniel need website designed and developed to help with the fundraising process I would be more than happy to donate the time and expense to get this job done - message me and we will make this happen for Daniel, and his family.


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JACK_Schit wrote:
Off course not everyone was gonna agree with my post. I respect the opinion of those who disagree.If any of you have objections about the content...
Off course not everyone was gonna agree with my post. I respect the opinion of those who disagree.If any of you have objections about the content of my post... sorry about that,

If the people behind the scenes helping Daniel need website designed and developed to help with the fundraising process I would be more than happy to donate the time and expense to get this job done - message me and we will make this happen for Daniel, and his family.


Wrong place , wrong time.

Posts like this you got 3 choices. 1.Help 2. Don't help 3. Shut the fuck up
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The OP doesn't say that he doesn't have Health Insurance, it just says his family has no means of income. I assume his wife can work?

People can donate a few K but that's not going to even put a dent in the $250K of medical bills he is about to receive. If he doesn't have Insurance, he is going to file BK and responsible people donating their money isn't going to change that one bit.

People shouldn't even be allowed to ride, much less race, w/o Health Insurance. Furthermore anyone that is a bread winner should have disability insurance as well. That's just common sense.

As someone that broke his back just 4 months ago, sorry but we all should be responsible for ourselves. Count your blessings that in the USA filing BK due to medical bills just really isn't a big deal. You won't lose your 1 home or car or anything.

Daniel, I really hope you get to feeling better sir. I wish you the best.
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2/11/2011 9:44am
500guy wrote:
Wrong place , wrong time.

Posts like this you got 3 choices. 1.Help 2. Don't help 3. Shut the fuck up
I understand what your saying but message boards are not really places of honor or integrity..

I respected you till you got to point 3.
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2/11/2011 9:47am
Suns_PSD wrote:
The OP doesn't say that he doesn't have Health Insurance, it just says his family has no means of income. I assume his wife can work...
The OP doesn't say that he doesn't have Health Insurance, it just says his family has no means of income. I assume his wife can work?

People can donate a few K but that's not going to even put a dent in the $250K of medical bills he is about to receive. If he doesn't have Insurance, he is going to file BK and responsible people donating their money isn't going to change that one bit.

People shouldn't even be allowed to ride, much less race, w/o Health Insurance. Furthermore anyone that is a bread winner should have disability insurance as well. That's just common sense.

As someone that broke his back just 4 months ago, sorry but we all should be responsible for ourselves. Count your blessings that in the USA filing BK due to medical bills just really isn't a big deal. You won't lose your 1 home or car or anything.

Daniel, I really hope you get to feeling better sir. I wish you the best.
I believe that when a adult male makes two of life's biggest comments 1) getting married and 2) child rearing - the husband and father has the responsibility to provide for his family. Some people value being financially responsible and some do not. I'm not asking anyone to agree with my opinion.

Perhaps some of you are not aware of the sad stories of action sports athletes(motorcycle and bmx) who had life changing accidents that led to various permanent disabilities - in some cased the wives of these athletes bailed out on the family based on the result of both the change of lifestyle and inability to finance the families household expense. Some people never know about some of these sad behind the scenes stories.

Fundamentally of my post on this subject is really about the motorcycle industry as whole not being more committed to securing more comprehensive benefits for the athletes.
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2/11/2011 10:07am
JACK_Schit wrote:
I believe that when a adult male makes two of life's biggest comments 1) getting married and 2) child rearing - the husband and father has...
I believe that when a adult male makes two of life's biggest comments 1) getting married and 2) child rearing - the husband and father has the responsibility to provide for his family. Some people value being financially responsible and some do not. I'm not asking anyone to agree with my opinion.

Perhaps some of you are not aware of the sad stories of action sports athletes(motorcycle and bmx) who had life changing accidents that led to various permanent disabilities - in some cased the wives of these athletes bailed out on the family based on the result of both the change of lifestyle and inability to finance the families household expense. Some people never know about some of these sad behind the scenes stories.

Fundamentally of my post on this subject is really about the motorcycle industry as whole not being more committed to securing more comprehensive benefits for the athletes.
And while I and seemingly a few others agree, I also agree with Jay's point that this simply wasn't the thread for it. A different thread not drawing away from the point of this thread would have been more appropriate. I had avoided posting a response to your original post even though I agree with it for that very reason. Now with the clutter in this thread maybe a mod can split the thread and clean it up?
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2/11/2011 10:09am
FIRST OFF SPINNER, DANIEL IS NOT COVERED IN TATTOOS OR PAY 10 OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR RACE BIKES. DANIEL DOESNT EVEN HAVE A RACE BIKE, HE WAS RIDING A BIKE A FRIEND LET HIM RIDE FOR SX. HE WAS JUST OUT THERE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY SO JACK_SCHIT TO ME THAT DOESNT MAKE HIM AN IRRESPONIBLE HUSBAND OR FATHER. EVEN IF HE DOESNT HAVE THE RIGHT INSURANCE YOU GUYS THINK HE SHOULD HAVE, THERE NO NEED FOR YOU TO MAKE THE GUY FEEL WORSE, TRY SAYING SOMETHING POSITIVE AND HELP THE GUY OUT.
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2/11/2011 12:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/11/2011 12:34pm
Chili wrote:
And while I and seemingly a few others agree, I also agree with Jay's point that this simply wasn't the thread for it. A different thread...
And while I and seemingly a few others agree, I also agree with Jay's point that this simply wasn't the thread for it. A different thread not drawing away from the point of this thread would have been more appropriate. I had avoided posting a response to your original post even though I agree with it for that very reason. Now with the clutter in this thread maybe a mod can split the thread and clean it up?
Yeah, we can do that no problem.
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2/11/2011 2:53pm Edited Date/Time 2/11/2011 3:36pm
Truthfully, I never gave much thought to the "other costs" until my kid got hurt about a year and a half ago. We have medical and can afford to race and do so within our means.

My kid got hurt about a thousand miles from home. I had motel and out of town expenses, and my wife had to fly out as well. Family come first, and we stayed by his side. We are self-employed which meant no money until we went back to work. After a few weeks we had to fly him back, and one of us had to stay at home with him. There are a lot of "extra expenses" that are not covered by insurance.

I am not writing this to cry, my point is to cut Mr. Blair some slack. With our injury, the breadwinners (my wife and I) were just interrupted and it took a while to get on track. He has a wife and kid to think about.

We treat these riders as disposable. They aren't.
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2/11/2011 5:48pm
How was he and his wife paying bills before this happened?
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mxb2 wrote:
How was he and his wife paying bills before this happened?
He raced motocross and sang in his band The Main Event. I plan on helping him out anyway I can even if its bringing his family over dinner one night. He lives in the same town I do and is a really good guy.
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2/11/2011 9:47pm
Wow, some of you guys are just plain old dicks arent you?
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2/12/2011 9:17am
Come on guys and girls. This ain't the time to bash. He needs our support.
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He does still have a source of income. If you're opposed to donating money buy his album. I think I read that they have a new one almost ready but I'm sure the old one is still available on iTunes.

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